- 3
- 84 519
Dave’s Place
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2019
Oscarville - What Lies Beneath Lake Lanier - Part 3
This video looks at the various tales being told about Oscarville, Georgia and it's connection to the building of Lake Lanier.
Website discussing Oscarville population.
genealogytrails.com/geo/forsyth/countyhistory.html
Mason website discussing the Mt. Zion Lodge.
www.mastermason.com/mtzion/about.htm
Website discussing Oscarville population.
genealogytrails.com/geo/forsyth/countyhistory.html
Mason website discussing the Mt. Zion Lodge.
www.mastermason.com/mtzion/about.htm
มุมมอง: 3 324
วีดีโอ
What Lies Beneath the Surface of Lake Lanier Part two
มุมมอง 11K3 ปีที่แล้ว
While searching for any signs of Looper Speedway or what eventually would become Gainesville Raceway, we decided to record us actually scanning to give those interested a peek into how it works. We never expected to find any evidence of the track...
What lies beneath the surface of Lake Lanier
มุมมอง 70K5 ปีที่แล้ว
A video showing underwater sonar images of flooded bridges, building, and dam with power station in Lake Lanier.
0:36 - I've never heard a bridge called "she" before.
Hi Dave are you still around? Thank you so much for the videos! One of these days could you show us what lies around Three Sisters Island?
I have not scanned around three sisters in a while but I have found no evidence of there being anything under the surface other than trees, based on aerial photos. There was a homestead on the island (currently above water) but the structures were removed before the lake was filled. The pastures were still visible up until about 15:years ago or so.
Xpedition Unknown has an episode on Lake Lanier, they went scuba diving to where cemeteries were said to have been excavated, yet all of the headstones and burial sites remained untouched. They didn’t move all the bodies. They cut corners while building that lake, a lot of corners. It was never created to be a recreational lake, that was an afterthought. As far as Oscarville, that was a predominantly black community in Forsyth county. Just like we have the Matt community, coal mountain, silver city, etc. there was an oscarville community. The reason you see a record of sale(s) of the land during the construction of the lake is because the land was already in the hands of white men. After the murder of Mae crow and the night riders drove out the black families, their land was divided amongst the white families. You can see record of the purchase as the land was divided up, even tho there isn’t a record of the black families selling their land. Some were able to sell it and there’s record, they sold it cheap almost like they were forced to, some there’s no record of the sale just the purchase by the white families who then sold it to the Gov when they built the lake. Browns bridge church actually created scholarships for the descendants of those black families . The media at the time in Forsyth didn’t document the hardships or stories of the black community. They told the white narrative. The oscarville today isn’t so much a community as just a road, one that was named after the community who lost their homes over a century ago.
Thanks for your comments. The Expedition Unknown episode was wrong on several issues, it was more fiction than fact. Lanier is not 300 plus feet deep and does not have a current. In fact, the lake reaches 160 feet max but in a small area. As far as Oscarville, I stand by my video. Maybe someone will have evidence to challenge mine, but for now I know of none, only tales told that get more embellished with time.
You say there are no facts, that is because you did not present them ... other channels have ... I can see why you don't have a big following ...
Thanks for your reply. This video was created when I tried to validate the claims being made online as fact where it applies to Oscarville and Lake Lanier. I knew from the start things like Oscarville having a racetrack was bogus. So I took the viewers along with me on that research and believe what I presented was factual and without bias. What facts are presented by others that I missed?
And of course he never responded because he had no argument or real sources to back it up. No videos, photos or tangible maps exist even showing a sunken town at the bottom of Lake Lanier. If it existed, it'd be easy to find diving videos of it on TH-cam and photos on blogs. Plus coordinates and maps of where on the lake floor it's located. Except none exist at all. It's a rumor. An urban legend. Oscarville is above water.
This is one of the best, and most factual videos on TH-cam. Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this and to shed factual, objective light on this! I’m a Police Detective and I’ve tried to use the objective, fact finding mindset that I do in criminal investigations, to the rumors of Lanier. Your video does exactly that!
Thank you. Very kind words.
Any chance you’d share the lat/long of the bleachers?
I’ve never recorded the exact location sorry. Of course they are along the shoreline of Laurel Park but you can’t see them at all unless the water is way down.
You never did get into the lake and deep dive to the bottom but thank you for trying to clean it up for them 😮
You Seen That As Well Thank You..
I grew up in Georgia and many of the stories are true. Mini gaslighting people would like you to not think nothing occurred Forsyth has always been known as a racist community of whites that think they are better than everyone else I lived in Alpharetta which is right near this area.. keep an open mind when listening to videos regarding these matters. The factual information and determine what is real and what is not.
You are absolutely hilarious. 😂 And incredibly shallow.
"keep an open mind when listening to videos regarding these matters" Proceeds to say these stories are true without any proof, not keeping an open mind... 😮
I'd love to see the research you've done on this. Could you send it to me?
@@Urbank06 I didn't have to do any research I lived here I saw it with my own eyes
@@rhondaunger1228 so you don’t have any tangible proof of the goblins, ghouls and curses?
1:54 omg so eerie.
One of my favorite images I’ve ever captured.
My team and I have visited those places
Really cool work! Thanks for sharing.
My black people's land you know taking stuff that wasn't yours. It's a good way to cover up what you've done! All so you could enjoy a place to fish! So spare the bullshit and tell what reality needed to be told, Murders and how you chased out the black community that was there 😤
America hides the truth
White people love lying
Very interested if you find any more stuff I'd love to hear it too
Liked the video! I think it’s really sad that a lot of other videos of lake Lanier are saying the reason why there are so many deaths is because of Oscarville (Rolling my eyes), when the truth is there’s way to many people that don’t know how to act. AKA drink,bad boating or just stupidly. What happened in 1912 with the hangings was a horrible thing! And I believe everyone would agree. Mr Dave’s Place I’ve enjoyed all three videos you have made, please keep doing what your doing! Side note good looking Searay you have. And everyone that reads my post please #Staysouth.
According to maps of the period, Oscarville was located in the eastern part of Forsyth County and some sources say the town was buried underneath the waters of Lake Lanier. The book, Blood at the Root: A Racial Cleansing in America, written by Patrick Phillips, goes into detail about incidents causing blacks to flee the county and the location of Oscarville. In Chapter 2, The Missing Girl, the writer details how 1910 census taker, Ed Johnson, walked to Durand Road, where he spoke with a fifty-eight-year-old black man named Buck Daniel, who rented property at the end of the road. Then he walked back down the hill pass Tom Crow’s general store, Mt. Zion School, the Oddfellows Hall, and the “clean white spire of Pleasant Grove Church”. As Johnson headed back toward Cumming, “Oscarville must have looked like any other quaint little farming village in north Georgia”, he wrote. After the body of a white woman, Mae Crow, was discovered in the woods, the writer describes what happened at the church, “as people milled around the little village, their attention soon turned to a group of black boys who sat watching all the excitement from the yard of Pleasant Grove Church” According to the Atlanta Constitution, this was the first time Ernest Knox was questioned about a mirror he had purchased at Shackelford’s store. It had been found in the woods near Mae Crow’s body, and a label on the back “indicated that it had been bought at Shackelford’s store. Mr. Shackelford identified it as having been purchased by Ernest Knox. The Pleasant Grove Baptist Church, on Waldrip Road, is less than one-quarter mile from the lake and the end of Durham Road is even closer. So, this seems to verify that Oscarville was nothing more than a little village and some of the nearby Black farms could very easily be submerged underneath the waters of Lake Lanier.
I'd love to see this map. Every map I've ever seen had the same fork in the road that is not under water. Can you provide a link to this map? If love to learn more about this.
@@NO_WAKE The location of the village is not under water, but the church and roads named in the book mention about are less than a quarter of a mile from the lake, so it is safe to assume that some of the nearby farms from the 1910 census are underwater.
Thanks for your comments. The incidents of 1912 are real. The point of this video is to disprove the myths being told about the haunting of Lake Lanier due to Oscarville being flooded. If you have seen the various videos and news articles, you find blatantly false information being paraded as fact. And there is no evidence Oscarville was a prosperous black community as being told. I felt it was time there be at least one source with some factual information disputing the colorful stories of today.
@@davesplace2982 I agree that most of haunting stories about Lake Lanier are a myth, and I agree that the actual location of the village of Oscarville is not underwater, but a source with the most actual information regarding Oscarville was researched for over ten years, and published in a book in 2016 by someone who grew up near Oscarville in Forsyth, County. The well documented, 300-page book, Blood at the Root, by Patrick Phillips contains a detailed description of the area around Oscarville. Prosperous is an elusive term. In 1912 a person of color that owned land was prosperous compare to other poor black people, but certainly not when compared to the white population.
@@CruzerToo I’m not sure I understand the point you are trying to make. You seem to disagree but I can’t decipher which issue that is. I guess my question is, concerning the video, what do you disagree with? You have mentioned this book, which admittedly I have not read but am aware of. Does it provide sourced information that disagrees with something I have provided?
Well done, correlates with my information as well. I have done my own but also inherited research materials from Clara Head and Sylvia Gailey Head (both published local historians) and there isn’t one thing I can find to back up any of the rumors. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Thank you.
That's the point you are scared of the truth. The world 🌎 See Your History Now.. Face it.
Excellent investigation and presentation, well done !!
Thank you!
The morons that blame the Army Corps of Engineers for throwing blacks off their land, lynching people and the lake being haunted need to watch this!
We’re hoping to get the facts out there. Hopefully the video gets out there and thanks for the support!
The racetrack is left of the boat dock
My soul is hurting for my ancestors! May justice come one day...
I know it will. I think by 2040 the lake will be dry and the truth shall come out when it happens. When Lake Lanier dries up, they will rebuild Oscarville, it will have Walmart, Sams Club, Lowes, Home Depot, Kroger, Publix, you name it. It will have it all.
Read that the average depth of Lake Lanier is 156 ft. Deepest point is said to be 160 feet. It is 147 feet deep at Buford Dam. Meanwhile, the Chattahoochee River, south of Columbus, Ga., has a 300 foot depth at the Providence Canyon area. This, from Wikipedia.
If you’ll put me on the building I will get video of it underwater.
Where all my Caucasions just learning how real shit is out here?!! Let's talk about it.. if not, Where my crickets at?!!
Anyone else here after listening to Morbid podcast? 😅
Totally! I was super curious after that episode about Lake Lanier
Amazing!
Cool video. Cool use of your boat and gear. Sucks you fly a desecrated American Flag.
Are you okay with law enforcement having the flag with the thin blue thug line on it?
The dead bodies of African Americans that the country sacrificed so all of you can enjoy your lives on the water But keep going and enjoy
Haha. They had the chance to move buddy. This happens all over the country to all sorts of people, look at any of the dam lakes or aritifcal someone probably lived there. Ignorance is bliss ain't it.
🎯
620,000 of those Caucasians died to free the slaves
I want to visit I'd have to sage and tingsha everythaaaaaang
I love these vids!
thanks Drew
The dead bodies of black Americans and the town they created and white Americans destroyed so you can enjoy the lake today
Oscarville, Ga is under this lake.
Used to be a Black owned town. America needs to tell the truth and pay for the dirty deeds done to Black people
Believe Me Their Time Is Coming Real Soon!
That territory belonged to the Cherokee Indian they ran off in the 1800's first. Then topped it off with a lie by a woman for messing around with somebody. So Rosewood all over again.
So who is paying me as a Jewish person and Irish person for all the intolerance and killing of our people? Just curious because if your in line, I think we are alot more recent and got killed in the millions. So, please enlighten me who will pay for all this?
@@WD-yx4fd doesn't seem as if anybody is getting paid for the pain and suffering by any of those people that caused the chaos to all groups of people that they thought were different than them.
@@WD-yx4fd F**k U! It's nobody's responsibility to enlighten you KAREN 😕
Very interesting got a new subscriber keep it up buddy
TREASURE!!!! Pirate ☠🏴☠️🦜☠ goodies
Let’s tell the truth this land was stolen from African American people
A WHOLE CITY WHERE BLACKS WERE KILLED AND THE TOWN BURNED..THEN FLOODED TO COVER IT UP AND MAKE A LAKE,
Black Lives Matter
Yeah...I thought video would've been more interesting if there was a mention of the people who created the structures they were scanning for and why they were under water....
Can something legally be done about this???? Or is it to late or impossible 😞
It was done "legally" They paid the people to move (tho probably by force). They made sure t's were crossed & I's were dotted. They evacuated it then flooded it but they took land like they frequently did back then. They wreaked havoc on the citizens Rosewood style so most fled on their own for safety. The few left they paid & evacuated
They were paid for their property and if yall knew we actually control water flow to Florida so that they do not experience droughts in their oyster farms and we do not experience flooding through Atlanta. But no it was to just displace blacks according to yall bahaha
@@WD-yx4fd If you really believe they paid them you are completely naive. 🙄
@@theresacolton644 by law they have to for the value of there land and home. No one said it was fair or that they actually got what it was worth but hey life is life.
@@reemj3675 Carry your lies somewhere else. Those Black families were never compensated for their property. This was done in many other cases as well, and not only did the white man just outright steal the property that African Americans owned, but they murdered many Black people in the process.
this is so cool! i can’t believe i found your first video and you just so happened to have posted a part 2. thank you for you hard work and providing some justice to this place!
One of my goals in doing these videos is to provide facts to either prove or disprove myth. Thanks for your kind words.
Very well put together video and very fascinating!
Thanks Drew. I’m still a rookie at it. Lol
IVE ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT THAT RACE TRACK. THAT WAS SO COOL. GREAT WORK!
Thanks a lot for the kind words Benjamin. It makes the effort worth while knowing others like the results.
YES!! PART 2! IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN DAVE!
Dave thanks to this video I have been able to successfully dive the house/School structure shown. I have a 10 minute video of that dive. There is another video on TH-cam that calls it the Fouts house/mansion and says it was built in the 1930s. I plan on diving and video recording some of the other sites you have shown here.
Jason I believe I’ve seen your video and feel free to share the link here if you’d like. Great video and it looked like a lot of fun. The house wall construction looked interesting. You guys be safe and I’ll look forward to the video.
Pretty Cool! Nice Scans!
Thanks Lance
Wow! Thank you for this video. My jaw was literally on the floor for this whole thing! Keep us updated if you find more!
Thank you. I am putting together footage we took scanning the race track. Hopefully I’ll finish sooner rather than later.
I'm from Ga and this lake is a huge No No place for me and my family. From what they did to make it, to how many people have died there since! I do believe there has been around 200 or so deaths there from the 90's to now and no telling how many since it's creation.
675+
@@Loverrover Woooooooow
@@ronaldgore7892 Exactly
Glad yall stay away from the lake. Espcially stay away from the North end we got gators and confederate ghosts still haunting us.
@@WD-yx4fd Y'all killing me, Gators at the NORTH end? lol. It's a great lake!
This whole lake is just BAD VIBES, loaded of people who have been and swam there say they nearly drown and can feel something pulling them down. The ancestors are unforgiving
Lies
Nv Ws you're not even good at making up what you know to be lies.
big ole bass lie beneath!!!!
Everytime I drive over the Buford Dam and look out at the Lake your video comes to mind. I watch a lot of You Tube videos but yours is one of my all time favorites! Theres a whole unseen world under there that you made happen. Great work man! One of a kind!