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The perils of misinterpreting Objectivist principles — Mark Pellegrino and Aaron Smith
Where do people go wrong with Objectivism? In this episode, Mark Pellegrino and Aaron Smith discuss ways in which people misinterpret Objectivist principles and some of the mistakes new Objectivists can make as they start to apply the philosophy. This is episode four in Mark Pellegrino's Philosophy and Mental Health Episode Series.
'A bad philosophy can wreck your psychology and a good philosophy can put it on the right track' - Aaron Smith
00:00:00 Why Aaron Smith is Mark Pellegrino's favourite philosophy teacher
00:00:20 Reason, self-interest, individual rights and laissez-faire capitalism
00:04:14 Discovering Objectivism
00:07:24 Getting philosophy wrong: misapplying the principles is common to Objectivism, Stoicism, and Christianity
00:08:40 Repressing emotions is bad for your psychological life
00:08:27 The Spock-McCoy false dichotomy and Catholic guilt
00:11:52 Life is essentially a knowledge problem
00:13:01 Culture tells you to follow your heart but Ayn Rand says emotions are not tools of cognition
00:16:14 Emotions can't distinguish between true and false but ignore them at your peril
00:17:40 The Objectivist view of emotions - emotions are fantastic!
00:19:08 Emotions have a proper psychological place
00:20:02 Ayn Rand is opposed to emotionalism, not emotions
00:20:30 The role of emotion in choosing a career: reason decides the issue but emotions are important.
00:24:00 Advice if you're new to Objectivism
00:24:54 The DOs and DON'Ts of Religion
00:27:43 Objectivism rejects duty
00:28:15 From facts to value judgement - the is-ought problem
00:31:55 The punishment for not living up to the objectivist morality is not achieving the goals you want out of life
00:32:38 Activities are not a chore if you hold your life as a value
00:33:14 Jeff Goldblum's philosophy: once I know something's good for me, I like it!
00:34:28 The keys to motivation
00:37:30 Validate your personal desires
00:38:00 Immanuel Kant on duty and morality
00:38:46 Causality versus Duty by Ayn Rand (Philosophy Who Needs It)
00:40:13 Long-range thinking
00:42:20 Don't ignore the short-range and the now
00:44:36 Objectivism and joy
00:45:36 Life is an end in itself and the enjoyment of life is an end in itself
00:47:14 Our Cultural Value-deprivation by Ayn Rand (The Voice of Reason)
00:50:30 Harmony between the long-range and the short-range
00:55:22 Being in the now at Jiu-Jitsu
00:56:30 Integrating daily pleasurable experiences
01:00:00 The Objectivist view of Art
01:04:45 Your response to art is highly personal
01:13:00 What do you respond to and why?
01:14:50 Jazz, classical, death metal
01:17:40 There's no such thing as Objectivist art
01:20:22 Question about toxic positivity and toxic negativity
01:26:00 Question about Rand's views on photography and what is art
01:39:20 Question about 'the higher the climb the further the fall'
'His emotions are not his enemies, they are his means of enjoying life. But they are not his guide; the guide is his mind.' Ayn Rand
Mark's Patreon subscribers [$5 tier and above] were invited to watch the discussion live and participate in a Q&A.
Join Mark's Patreon if you want to join the next episode live via Zoom:
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Aaron Smith on X: x.com/PhilosophySmith
Aaron Smith at the Ayn Rand Institute: ari.aynrand.org/experts/aaron-smith/
Further viewing: Lecture 2 of Peikoff's Judging, Feeling, and Not Being Moralistic, which is called 'The Proper Role of Emotions,' addresses both emotions and repression and the issue of ignoring the short-range and the now. You can watch this lecture on ARI Campus: courses.aynrand.org/campus-courses/judging-feeling-and-not-being-moralistic/
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  • @benrosn8154
    @benrosn8154 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is awesome, you’re an extremely smart and genuine person. I absolutely love your opinions and you’re an incredible actor, bro. Thank you so much for everything I especially love your performance in Capote pretty fantastic thanks man keep doing what you’re doing. Great podcast I loved it.

  • @EmotionFunction
    @EmotionFunction 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Loving this talk, Lisa Feldman Barrett cover constructed emotions theory, in line with the emotions section

  • @fitwithartin
    @fitwithartin วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great discussion and very good questions!

  • @betafever6579
    @betafever6579 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LONG LIVE LIBERTY CARAJO!!!🗽🗽🗽

  • @frederickmfarias3109
    @frederickmfarias3109 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mark Pellegrino must be a great actor. Thank you for the reminder of the hardly known great Bob Florence, jazz pianist, composer, and who I didn’t know was so much an arranger too.

  • @julyblytz360
    @julyblytz360 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In other words, once you like the paracosm too much, you don’t wanna get out.

  • @tomkoziol141
    @tomkoziol141 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With Ally, I agree that toxic humour is so widespread and terribly destructive to productive motivation. 🗽

  • @Shozb0t
    @Shozb0t 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aaron should listen to the song “Big Time” by Peter Gabriel.

    • @aaronsmith7313
      @aaronsmith7313 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know that song. Not my thing. I like his voice though.

  • @Shozb0t
    @Shozb0t 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    36:10 That might have been an episode of Futurama. But the purpose of the mirror wasn’t to motivate a goal. It was to sell underwear-Lightspeed Briefs. The changing room mirror in the department store presented an idealized version of yourself. But when the character looked closer, he saw the sign: “Objects in mirror are less attractive than they appear.”

  • @sybo59
    @sybo59 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tremendous talk. Aaron is an incisive thinker, and, thankfully for us, also a great communicator.

  • @comiknight_official
    @comiknight_official 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome podcast

  • @RobertNasir
    @RobertNasir 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Outstanding discussion ... one I'll be recommending, especially to those who've read Ayn Rand's works, and are looking to apply Objectivist principles. What does this philosophy look like in practice? Lots of great answers in this interview.

  • @HealthyDisrespectforAuthority
    @HealthyDisrespectforAuthority 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speaking of metal.. have you heard Jinjer yet? I suggest the song Pisces.. many many views.

  • @RayceJacobson
    @RayceJacobson 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Regarding Rose's photography question, i think it becomes art when the scene being captured is actually saying something rather than merely documenting something. For example, William Mortensen took fantastic pictures with wonderful, dramatic scenes. these scenes have themes, values that are being communicated. A picture of a static bowl of fruit isn't saying anything, it just is. I would recommend William Mortensen's book The Command to Look detailing his theory of dramatic photography if you're reading this, Rose.

    • @sybo59
      @sybo59 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Helpful comment. Photography can certainly be a legitimate “selective recreation of reality.”

  • @GarrettTravers
    @GarrettTravers 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've said it many times to my Oist pals, Aaron Smith is the true chad of ARI.

  • @TheBuslaefff
    @TheBuslaefff 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why Objectivists are not so common in debating scene? Like for example Matt Dillahunty?

    • @RayceJacobson
      @RayceJacobson 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Every objectivist has his or her own reasons. For many of them, they find their career more productive than debating a non-objective intellectual. Only a handful of objectivists are engaged in intellectual activism, like those at the Ayn Rand Institute, and only a handful of them are interested in debate.

    • @GarrettTravers
      @GarrettTravers 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've rarely found people willing to debate Objectivism with Oists in good faith. And I mean, I may have come across maybe three or four in my entire time as an academic.

    • @jonathanbauer2988
      @jonathanbauer2988 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RayceJacobson and some of us are learning, how much do I actually have to understand before I can even consider myself objectivist? I am curious about objectivism and have a goal to completely understand it, not necessarily to agree I don't want to be dogmatic about it, but just to understand it. That being said, how does one even know when you are understanding enough to call yourself an objectivist? Unlike other ideologies, because I am rejecting dogmatism it feels like I have to fully understand every single topic before I can commit.

    • @jonathanbauer2988
      @jonathanbauer2988 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and I am guessing im not the only person like this but how could I debate about it without fully understanding it? Its a ton of work compared to other ideologies where you just subscribe out of dogmatic choice and boom your part of the tribe.

    • @JohnMcAfee-se9ms
      @JohnMcAfee-se9ms 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yaron Brook does a lot of debates.

  • @KyleInTrouble
    @KyleInTrouble 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was very informative!! thank you so much! Rose was amazing too.

  • @Nikita_Rose-Roberts
    @Nikita_Rose-Roberts 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Mark

  • @Randomthew
    @Randomthew 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Although morality is a complex discussion, I believe what you say is so true. Good is that which improves the physical and emotional quality of individual living beings as well as the quantity of living beings. Evil does the opposite. This gets complex when you view things on a large scale and a long period of time, as well as many different defitions for what exactly "spiritual" health means and if it differs from physical and emotional health, but I believe it still rings true.

  • @michalsluzynski3897
    @michalsluzynski3897 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is excellent content. Hope to meet you during OCON soon!

  • @CassWasShotGun
    @CassWasShotGun 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    palestine will be free!! 🇵🇸

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not so long as they support Hamas.

  • @allisonmeekis6033
    @allisonmeekis6033 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is so true ❤

  • @Weirdomanification
    @Weirdomanification 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think this could have been titled better.

  • @user-iu5zc8tc2z
    @user-iu5zc8tc2z 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mark thank you for a happy childhood❤ best Lucifer ❤

  • @lelefe29
    @lelefe29 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much! I agree with your every word!

  • @seancosgrove1
    @seancosgrove1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Mark and Michael's moral foundation leads them to the conclusion that it's okay to kill potentially hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East because a bunch of gang members broke out of prison and killed over 1,000 Israelis. I understand the people who remain neutral in the conflict and suggest that it's not our war, but to cheer on the death of so many innocent people is just disgusting. It makes me like Ayn Rand a lot less if this is truly where the ideology leads.

  • @wes10gaard
    @wes10gaard หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would suggest making an argument or presenting a counterpoint to Smith’s positions. Should be relatively easy if he is very unprincipled and incorrect

  • @tehcarey
    @tehcarey หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pathetic

  • @wulery
    @wulery หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol, put someone in makeup and put them on a tv show, they start thinking they're actslly smart 😂

  • @saint_blain
    @saint_blain หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man. Judging from these comments it looks very definitively like you're actually wrong and Dave is right. Asking to debate him with this level of dumbassery is like asking your whole family to come over and watch you get your ass kicked twice.

  • @bobbycake8077
    @bobbycake8077 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is just your feelings there is nothing else here explain yourself make a claim

  • @corymcdowell7295
    @corymcdowell7295 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine saying that the guy whole had probably most spread libertarianism since Ron Paul is dangerous to libertarianism. Maybe if by libertarian you mean the old LP, but that was just a bunch of self important people pretending they cared about liberty.

  • @adidabax6809
    @adidabax6809 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Zionism is a philosophy." Mark Pellegrino, Sophist.

  • @fredjames5473
    @fredjames5473 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait... he's talking to Jacob?

  • @fredjames5473
    @fredjames5473 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Make an actual argument.

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino หลายเดือนก่อน

      The arguments have been made. Go check out the feed

  • @3ebfan4life
    @3ebfan4life หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol debate then. I've been a libertarian since 2008 and Dave Smith has been a breath of fresh air in the libertarian sphere since Ron Paul's 2012 presidential campaign. He is one of the best voices articulating libertarianism and I'm here for it.

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool. Then Urge Dave to have the debate. He’s certainly dead wrong about Israel.

  • @bcorey19
    @bcorey19 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man, do better.

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do better is to debate. Which he refuses to do.

  • @n-dawwg2570
    @n-dawwg2570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao stay mad

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smith followers are the dumbest people in the world 🤣

  • @milkman4174
    @milkman4174 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao a guy who literally went to prison for stabbing his girlfriend accusing another person of having no moral foundation. How is there 0 self awareness?

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t stab his girlfriend and has posted the actual case on line for people to see. Try to be less of a dumbass and try actually knowing what you’re talking about before you open your mouth…. Super hard ask for a smith libertarian. But give it a shot.

    • @JB-ti9wz
      @JB-ti9wz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarkRPellegrino He stabbed her, what a psycho!

    • @MarkRPellegrino
      @MarkRPellegrino 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JB-ti9wzno he didn’t. What an ignoramus.

  • @Dudeguy6816
    @Dudeguy6816 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I don't want to go too much into the weeds with this," he then does not provide a single example. Why would anyone debate someone that thinks assertions are arguments?

  • @skyyhighh6685
    @skyyhighh6685 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big loser energy in this video.

  • @adamholloway8873
    @adamholloway8873 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This isnt an argument, make the damn claim or shut up. I’m so tired of people making claims without defining those claims

  • @sollason7
    @sollason7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha, you sound like you want to be Dave's friend so bad but he won't answer your texts

    • @JB-ti9wz
      @JB-ti9wz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      its sad, these guys are such losers who aren't living in the real world. Dave 1000x more likable than either of these twats.

  • @johndiscord277
    @johndiscord277 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess that famous "high Jewish IQ" missed his sorry ass

  • @Walrus286
    @Walrus286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahahahah

  • @jeremyzornes9342
    @jeremyzornes9342 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the worst "gotcha" I've ever seen...kind of sad tbh

  • @iceb2012
    @iceb2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guy talked but said nothing

  • @ijustworkhere2171
    @ijustworkhere2171 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "He makes moral proclamations but doesnt defend his moral foundation" ...."I don't want to get into the weeds." The whole point of shorts is to pick the part of the conversation where you don't immediately contradict yourself.

  • @u.martin6917
    @u.martin6917 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lotsa talk no meat

  • @MeChute
    @MeChute หลายเดือนก่อน

    WTF is this 😅