This is why I had a hard time enjoying this film. The relationship between Lady Bird and her mother was so toxic and unhealthy that it became unpleasant to watch. 70% of the movie is just them arguing and arguing repeatedly. I literally thought they were both gonna strangle each other
I can understand why the mom was upset with Lady Bird for applying to New York. It is really selfish to go to school out of state considering her mom told her they can barely afford in-state tuition. So to make her parents have to go through that is selfish.
That’s still not an excuse to ignore her for several months and act like you’re deaf when you’re around them. A person doesn’t deserve to be a parent if they think doing something like that is okay
I was waiting for her mom to soften up when Lady Bird started to be dramatic about wishing her mother not to be angry, then her Mom answered "my mom was an abusive alcoholic" and i was like,, daaaamn you're lucky Lady Bird. Some people have it worse. Grow up! haha
Just because people have had it worse doesn't invalidate someone else's feelings. Jesus, that's like telling people in Flint Michigan, "people in war torn countries don't have access to food or water, grow up at least you have food."
lady bird's mom is emotionally abusive herself and we can see her grandmother's possible behaviors being mirrored by marion bc that was the environment she grew up in. Doesnt mean that she's luckier
@@cati896 Which the movie kind of touches on in the scene with Lady Bird and Kyle. She's voicing her concerns and frustration and then he brings up how many civilians have died in Iraq. And she says "Different things can be sad. It's not all war.".
2:45 the way they're literally losing it on each other and then the second something else happens (the pink dress) it literally doesn't matter anymore made me burst into tears. this happens to me so much w my mother. you think that it doesn't matter because you put the arguments off but they build up for years and years and i know one day i'll snap because of it.
Happens to me with my sister. It's frustrating because I feel like even tho everything is suddenly "all right" between us, we're not solving anything at all, just covering the problems.
Their relationship reminds me of my nana’s and mine. After my mom passed she took me in so I’m grateful, although we argue a lot there’s a lot of love there. Maybe not exactly like them but I love it.
So many lines in this film sounded eerily similar to that of me & my father. The “why do i always have to be the bad guy? While your mom gets to be your best friend.” And that line where her mother says “my mother was an abusive alcoholic”. And while my dad & i did have a few scuffles-ish he was a good man that did his best. Unfortunately we cant say the same for his father/ my grandfather. His father did care a lot as well but was very abusive to my dad mentally & physically. My dad often described his upbringing as a combination of the wild west & the Marines. By th time he was graduating his school they had been in 4 or 5 brawls & thats not including the 2 or 3 times he cold cocked my dad as a child for misbehaving - one time leaving him concussed.... Im very grateful my dad did his best to find a healthy balance of the good parts of his dad & leaving the bad parts behind as best he could.
Yes they keep pushing each other’s buttons knowing very well they will make the other person angry. This film is very relatable to me and the relationship with my father too, and he himself had a distant relationship with his dad who could at times be abusive. The movie applies to the dynamic between parents and kids, regardless the gender.
I’d actually like to see a scene or film where a mother and son argue 24/7 for a change instead of having him be a prissy mummy’s boy who can do nought wrong. Yes we get it mothers and daughters argue but so do mothers and sons. And why does it always have to be a narcissist mother?
@Mr Anglo plus they always make it seem like it’s the daughter who’s the bitch🤣 I dunno man I’m no feminist or anything I’d just like to see a change that’s all lol.
Well as much as I’m sure mothers and sons have this problem too as well as fathers and sons and daughters and fathers, it’s definitely more prevalent between mothers and daughters bc of society
Children of abusive people should not have kids. This movie was not good and the mom literally wouldn't talk to her for MONTHS. That'll be great for when she grows up and find situations too stressful to deal with.
I don’t think it makes the movie bad, I think the fact it got you thinking makes it good. The story may be dissatisfying but the relationship says a lot about society. I can personally relate to it, and my mom swears she had a wonderful relationship with her mom. Doesn’t make her any less psychotic. I wish certain people with mental problems would consider not raising children, yes, but that’s life!
@@jaimelannister3515 you can hate her but she's simply being realistic. Her husband is unemployed and she's probably working double shifts to support the family and pay for Christine's catholic school. The family can barely afford sending Christine to East Coast to study...
"My mom was an abusive alcoholic". The way she delivered that line broke my heart and made me completely understand her character. Lady Bird's mother is been throught a lot, you can tell. She just want for her daughter the life her mother never gave to her.
PalmurcioWorld It’s funny how everyone takes that comment differently. I take it as a scapegoat the mother uses for being a not great mother. Just because her mom was really bad, doesn’t mean that by her not being an alcoholic she is a perfect mother.
Damn, Mary Cooper can never catch a break!
Some folks were not fit to be parents. The fact that the dad is such a milquetoast just makes it worst.
I like when the dad says "Look at all these pictures. Every paper is turning into USA Today" - that was a very 2002/03 thing to say.
This is why I had a hard time enjoying this film. The relationship between Lady Bird and her mother was so toxic and unhealthy that it became unpleasant to watch. 70% of the movie is just them arguing and arguing repeatedly. I literally thought they were both gonna strangle each other
Ok then it’s not for you.
Then you missed the point. Her Mother is the antagonist.
I can understand why the mom was upset with Lady Bird for applying to New York. It is really selfish to go to school out of state considering her mom told her they can barely afford in-state tuition. So to make her parents have to go through that is selfish.
That’s still not an excuse to ignore her for several months and act like you’re deaf when you’re around them. A person doesn’t deserve to be a parent if they think doing something like that is okay
With a mum like that I'd move to college on another planet.
Saoirse’s American accent is really good. Also, she sounds exactly like Lindsay Logan in the apology scene with her mom.
I was waiting for her mom to soften up when Lady Bird started to be dramatic about wishing her mother not to be angry, then her Mom answered "my mom was an abusive alcoholic" and i was like,, daaaamn you're lucky Lady Bird. Some people have it worse. Grow up! haha
Just because people have had it worse doesn't invalidate someone else's feelings. Jesus, that's like telling people in Flint Michigan, "people in war torn countries don't have access to food or water, grow up at least you have food."
lady bird's mom is emotionally abusive herself and we can see her grandmother's possible behaviors being mirrored by marion bc that was the environment she grew up in. Doesnt mean that she's luckier
@@cati896 Which the movie kind of touches on in the scene with Lady Bird and Kyle. She's voicing her concerns and frustration and then he brings up how many civilians have died in Iraq. And she says "Different things can be sad. It's not all war.".
I’ve never seen a mother daughter relationship that’s so close to me and my moms
Bye- this is what my mom does 😭
"It's vintage and doesn't support the industry, so it's vegan" Does pleather or vegan leather not exist in this?
The film is situated in 2002/2003 so no.
Pleather and vegan leather are also bad for the environment in most cases. The material is essentially made of oil.
I realize that Mom is always Son's bestfriend and Dad is Daughter's bestfriend. Rarely the other way around unless the oarents are abusive.
2:45 the way they're literally losing it on each other and then the second something else happens (the pink dress) it literally doesn't matter anymore made me burst into tears. this happens to me so much w my mother. you think that it doesn't matter because you put the arguments off but they build up for years and years and i know one day i'll snap because of it.
Happens to me with my sister. It's frustrating because I feel like even tho everything is suddenly "all right" between us, we're not solving anything at all, just covering the problems.
That clothing store scene is very realistic. Especially when that pink dress part seemingly halts the bickering as if nothing happened.
I love thrift shopping! 😍🥰❤
her mom is the exact same as my mom
1:35 i relate to this too much...
Their relationship reminds me of my nana’s and mine. After my mom passed she took me in so I’m grateful, although we argue a lot there’s a lot of love there. Maybe not exactly like them but I love it.
So many lines in this film sounded eerily similar to that of me & my father. The “why do i always have to be the bad guy? While your mom gets to be your best friend.” And that line where her mother says “my mother was an abusive alcoholic”. And while my dad & i did have a few scuffles-ish he was a good man that did his best. Unfortunately we cant say the same for his father/ my grandfather. His father did care a lot as well but was very abusive to my dad mentally & physically. My dad often described his upbringing as a combination of the wild west & the Marines. By th time he was graduating his school they had been in 4 or 5 brawls & thats not including the 2 or 3 times he cold cocked my dad as a child for misbehaving - one time leaving him concussed.... Im very grateful my dad did his best to find a healthy balance of the good parts of his dad & leaving the bad parts behind as best he could.
Yes they keep pushing each other’s buttons knowing very well they will make the other person angry. This film is very relatable to me and the relationship with my father too, and he himself had a distant relationship with his dad who could at times be abusive. The movie applies to the dynamic between parents and kids, regardless the gender.
I’d actually like to see a scene or film where a mother and son argue 24/7 for a change instead of having him be a prissy mummy’s boy who can do nought wrong. Yes we get it mothers and daughters argue but so do mothers and sons. And why does it always have to be a narcissist mother?
Yeah it seems like the daughter is always portrayed as an insufferable pain in the butt
That being said I still like Lady Bird
mid90s
@Mr Anglo plus they always make it seem like it’s the daughter who’s the bitch🤣 I dunno man I’m no feminist or anything I’d just like to see a change that’s all lol.
Well as much as I’m sure mothers and sons have this problem too as well as fathers and sons and daughters and fathers, it’s definitely more prevalent between mothers and daughters bc of society
Nice
That scene with them picking out the dresses was WOW
My review of Lady Bird: 2:55
Children of abusive people should not have kids. This movie was not good and the mom literally wouldn't talk to her for MONTHS. That'll be great for when she grows up and find situations too stressful to deal with.
this movie is fantastic shut uppp
I don’t think it makes the movie bad, I think the fact it got you thinking makes it good. The story may be dissatisfying but the relationship says a lot about society. I can personally relate to it, and my mom swears she had a wonderful relationship with her mom. Doesn’t make her any less psychotic. I wish certain people with mental problems would consider not raising children, yes, but that’s life!
Jolie Vargas You’re damn right it wasn’t good, IT WAS AMAZING.
You clearly missed the point of the movie
My father was the child of a very abusive father. I am forever grateful for him bringing me into this world. We talk almost every day & always will.
I have the EXACT same relationship with my mom.
This movie made me hate sacramento more
For me, I just fuckin hate her mother. No wonder lady bird disrespects and avoids her
I think y’all both missed the point
R520 J R LMAO
@@jaimelannister3515 you can hate her but she's simply being realistic. Her husband is unemployed and she's probably working double shifts to support the family and pay for Christine's catholic school. The family can barely afford sending Christine to East Coast to study...
My mom and I 24/7 but we still love each other
:( I have the same relationship with my mom
Isabella Gomez I’m not sure if you should be sad about or grateful
Where is part one??
Mason Brown i deleted bcuz there wasn’t any viewers 😁😞
@@bambogaming8007 Then change the title you absolute monster
@@bambogaming8007 ✋ I'll be a viewer
"My mom was an abusive alcoholic". The way she delivered that line broke my heart and made me completely understand her character. Lady Bird's mother is been throught a lot, you can tell. She just want for her daughter the life her mother never gave to her.
PalmurcioWorld It’s funny how everyone takes that comment differently. I take it as a scapegoat the mother uses for being a not great mother. Just because her mom was really bad, doesn’t mean that by her not being an alcoholic she is a perfect mother.
Ladybird's mom is extremely abusive.
@@SkyreeXScalabar They aren't interpreting it wrong. There is no right or wrong with this.
yes but that's not an excuse she's projecting her traumas on lady bird
I’ll take that as a “yes.”