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"For this card's Synchro Summon, you can treat 1 LIGHT or DARK monster you control as a Tuner."

@@ratkingdomygo ahhh yes, I see that. I was so confused there for a minute haha. Thanks!

"Shifter is fair" Do I even need to say anything? Like are you trolling? A card stealing wins by itself is never fair. I'll give you that now is probably the worst time ever to ban it because it's basically the only hand trap that can do anything to fiendsmith by itself but calling shifter fair because exactly right now the decks playing it aren't good enough is a 20 iq take. Don't forget exosister, floo, spright, and runick consistently staying competitive because of a card with hardly any counterplay that creates non-games. Anyone defending Shifter is advocating for shit card design to compete with other shit card design. How about we just fix the game instead? "Yubel can do their combos without Yama" But the deck becomes a whole lot worse. If Yama wasn't a ridiculously strong card, Yubel players wouldn't bother playing it and 2 cards they don't really want to open in their deck, but literally every single list does because it adds a ton of resilience to your combo and end board. I'm assuming they aren't going to hit it but it's more likely they hit that than they hit an actual Yubel card because that's how Konami works. "Wanting princess Banned just show you really dont pay attention to where the problem is in the combos" Oh Princess isn't a problem? The monster that requires 2+ effect monsters. Any effect monsters so you can make it with any charmer. The monster that non targeting reborns any fire. The monster used to kill your opponent with Zealantis because for some reason it isn't banished when it leaves the field after being reborned. The card that gives you interruption through basically every board breaker and infinite followup. Yeah it's only like the most pushed link monster ever. It is THE problem card. "Pend Hate waah" Pend doing nothing makes no difference to me. People love - absolute ADORE shitting on break-my-board infinite negate combo decks and yet 2 seconds later they say bring back electrumite. Every pendulum deck right now might take a different path to get there but always ends up being a cancer end board of I:P, Appo, Vortex dragon. Maybe they spice it up with a secret village, a hope harbinger, a mighty master. It's just negates and floodgates dude. Why do you want more decks like that in the game? "Tcgplayers don't think. They aren't as smart as me, I'm so smart. Shifter is fair." Have you actually considered what the game would be like with my made up, fake banlist? All this list is doing is making the game healthier by lowering the ceiling and resilience of the top decks, and lowering the chance of non-games by removing floodgates that should have been banned years ago. This list drops, it is a net positive for player agency.

@@ratkingdomygo Regarding the overall game environment which i dont think your banlist was addressing or fixing Its an environment where you either go 1card=6disruptions or hand trap the opponent to death Literally need a banlist as huge as a master rule But lets readdress these cards Shifter Yes i dont think its a problem for now since it only makes rouge decks playable , maybe a future hit when its actually impactful on the game and not personal experiences Princess I think princess is getting hate when you should clearly blame zealntis For the otk zealntis is who enable it . Princess added so much stability to fire decks and was good overall I dont really know about the yubel yama take Because they do a lot of combos without yama, the card is good dont get me wrong But even if you ban it they would go some other link 2 and on one less disruption maybe Dont forget that playing that unchained trap is legit a brick they could just replace it with some other handtrap and would still be good So yeah it will slightly slow them but wont hurt them Pend You literally said it Without electrumite and they still end on ip vortex harbinger apollo Thats a thing about the game environment not the deck Just like how baronne and savage bans legit hurt decks like speedroid and mannidum , electrumite ban just make them slow but they will still end on disruptions it just freeing him adding consistency

Kashtira Horus and Snake Eye are literally the only things on ranked right now. Maybe Stun and a lonely Lab player.

Idk if I've said it before on the channel but I wish they'd print a thunder dragon fusion that had the same summoning condition and a different effect. The game is probably better with Colossus banned overall but I'm just predicting that they will be putting it to 3 because the card hasn't really made an impact on the tcg and it's already at 3 in the ocg. Personally I do not like cards like Colossus and Winda but they are undeniably more manageable than the heinous lingering floodgates currently legal in the game.

@@ratkingdomygo On that we agree

the difference between 1 and 3 sus is only that thunder can play yugioh with multiple the decks that are playing colossus now, you are not losing to the colossus, you are losing to the cards insulating the colossus.

also yubel just became tiered,

If they want to hit Yubel without killing it, they should just put Phatom to 1. Leave Yama alone, lol.

U have a very twisted definition of good card if u think locking your opponent out of their turn or ripping their hand should be allowed

@@Ashblossomm people approved of baroone and savage hits, which was dumb, that was a net negative lost for the community, and now the community doesnt want to ever side in backrow hate and just wants all floodgates to zero

@@wolfwoodstyleblue3946 floodgates are the game's least problem I've been playing this game for 7 years now in never in this time i was bothered by floodgates except maybe mystic mine. people became lazy at deck building just throwing staples and their engine and calling it a day that's why they hate floodgates the real problem is stuff like recycling a lingering effect every turn or shit like puppetlock that is also a lingering effect or ripping hand and the one card combos it's just making the game less interactive and harder for new players to get into by the time we stop playing this crap and go on with our lifes there will be no playerbase left because nobody looks at a game of yugioh and says "damn this game looks interesting"

@@Ashblossomm yea good points, surprised puppet lock wasn't addressed last banlist, and as for certain linger effects it's not so bad, d barrier is one I'm more less fine with, doesn't effect the most busted summoning mechanic links, and nobody is forcing players to play just fusions, synchro etc, it gives me droll vibes, as for d shifter I think it not really having a counter is annoying

@@wolfwoodstyleblue3946 Baronne and Savage were great hits. There is 0 reason to have cards that absurdly powerful completely generic and easily accessible. The issue is that Konami has amnesia and decided to just start putting out the same crap again with a different coat of paint

Tele dad literally lasted 9 months. Stfu

@@alexYu-gi-oh 1. Tele-DAD, unlike Tearlaments and Snake-Eyes, was not a prepackaged strategy created by Konami but rather a bunch of cards that, together had a lot of synergy by pure chance. 2. The entire Tele-DAD deck was cheaper than a single S:P Little Knight or Bonfire at their peak. There is a clear conflict of interests here with Konami making a lot of money out of staples. 3. Tele-DAD resulted in a sweeping banlist that made the deck pretty much useless. Meanwhile Tearlaments are still topping on Locals, it still has players on Nationals and everyone expects Snake-Eyes and Fire King to get a slap on the wrist as Fiendsmith, the next Tier 0, comes out. 4. Tele-DAD was the exception. Tier 0 formats were far and fee in between, now the game moves between Tier 0 formats every six months or so.

@@Pocket-Calculator You are literally lying lmao Dad was SUPER expensive! It was NOT less than the price of an SP lmao! The deck was around 800 to 1000 dollars in 2008 ffs. You clearly never played a competitive game in your life back in the days if you think dad was cheap which makes me immediately lose interest in discussing with a troll. But just to say one last thing, the game doesn't jump between tier 0 decks every 6 months, again, literally lying. The last tier 0 deck before snake eyes was tear 2 years ago and before that it was in 2018 so 4 years prior. I love old school yugioh, i play edison all the damn time but people like you just talk shit out of their ass and its annoying.

@@alexYu-gi-oh lmao you got destroyed

@@thedog7494 I didnt get destroyed, i just didny reply because his points are retarded af. Tele dad was not cheaper than an SP thats literally a lie da fuq. Tele dad was almost a 1000 dollar deck (16 years ago, thats a crazy ass number) And it doesn't matter if the deck was pre packaged by konami or not thats such a stupid ass argument, the deck lasted for almost a year without konami ending it. Also we dont move between tier 0 formats every 6 months. Literally before tear we didnt have a tier 0 deck in 4 years (2018) and thats ironic because 4 years before DAD we also had a tier 0 format in chaos after invasion of chaos was released and then that lead to the very first ever ban list. Yall are bunch of dumbasses i swear lmao. The fact that he said DAD was a cheap deck made me instantly know the type of person im talking to, a dumbass. I love old school yugioh, i play edison alot, but that doesn't mean old yugioh was better or flawless lol

varuda xyz shouldnt have been made, would have made yubel more fair to deal with.

@@wolfwoodstyleblue3946 wild they made it rank 10 too as if rank 10s are in any way hard to summon lmao

@@gamingsuperun tell that to yubel jackass lol, but if you ever play against it tell me how it feels to still get Omni negated lol

@@gamingsuperun yubel makes it easy enough

@@wolfwoodstyleblue3946 Its basically just Yubel support. Not a whole lot of other rank 10 decks out there aside from maybe Earth Machine? I'd rather we just move Phatom to 1 to gimp the deck's late game capabilities, but that's just me. It actually takes a bit of set-up to loop it back into the extra deck, so putting it at 1 would be fine since it keeps the Yubel deck from bricking your hands. The main priority rn is banning Apo, banning Flamberge (since Snake-Eye is getting new support) and banning either the link 2 Goddess or the link 1 Fiendsmith, along with eventually banning Beatrice once Fiendsmith has had some time to see play.

Fenrir - Obviously it doesn't always solo boards by itself, but it has. That's a thing the card is capable of doing which is kinda just bullshit on a pank that is just strictly better because of the free summon that searches itself bollocks. That part does matter - like a lot. It isn't just a board breaker that usually outs 2 of your opponent's cards (I:P/Veiler/Appo). The fact that it replaces itself, the fact that it's a free body, the fact that it's an interruption going 1st - it all contributes to the card being too generically good. Macro Cosmos - I promise you this card will see side deck play eventually in random shit because that's what people do. Yes it's win more - so is anti-spell. That's the idea. You lock in your free win by flipping up the floodgate you sided in game 2 so your opponent can no longer play yugioh. I'm sure there's a few other floodgates people would flock to before macro cosmos, but it is inevitable that this card will be a problem again someday. It's not like snake-eye really wants to have a skill drain face up on their field. They can't do much of anything under it on the opponent's turn. It's just there to lock in their free win. Also no one has ever side decked knightmare phoenix. Magnamhut - I doubt that this card will ever be banned but it's an undeniably ridiculous card that doesn't need to exist. Druiswurm is already insanely good but I find it to be way more fair than a card that searches any of one of the most populous types in the game. Most tenpai lists are maining this because why wouldn't you? Search out chundra or paidra or a 2nd bystial if you need while banishing shit like I:P from snake-eyes grave, Lo, or puppet/branded in red target. I might be biased against this card because my opponent's literally ALWAYS have this bystial and none of the other ones and it proves itself to be bullshit every time. It turns out a 2500 body to out your I:P/S:P while being dd crow and searching either another 2500 body that outs 1-2 cards or any starter/extender in your deck is kinda good. Also if you've ever had the pleasure of playing against someone regained looping magnamhut - it's not fun. Yama - Heavily pushed, overly generic card that literally makes fiend decks meta by itself. Your veiler is probably better used on samsara or beckoning beast.

@@ratkingdomygo my bad, I meant to say "extra deck", not side for phoenix.

"Fenrir can be killed by Veiler, Imperm" oh, you mean two unsearchable cards? You're relying on pure luck at that point AND you're forced to run a deck that can use 6+ handtraps. This is the problem with modern decks. They have 100 % consistency and the only way to break them is luck. Not even that because they're designed to go through several handtraps anyway. Since you need several handtraps just to get a chance to plag at all, you need a deck that can run 12+ handtraps and still be consistent, so everyone is forced to play Snake-Eyes and similar which is both expensive and boring to play. "Macro Cosmos isn't a problem because it can't be searched" you're contradicting yourself. Unsearchable cards cannot be a problem but unsearchable cards are a solution?

@@Pocket-Calculator This is a card game. Of course there is luck involved. Of course there will be. In the same vein, opponent might not be lucky enough to draw Fenrir in their snake eye opening hand, just like you have no imperm. I don't think we were arguing who gets luckier here.

@@Pocket-Calculator Also, Veiler is searchable because it is a low level tuner.

The insatiable hunger for the gameplay of yugioh cannot be filled by pokemon

​@@gamingsuperun Pokémon is fun to play though.

@@Pocket-Calculator so is yugioh if you dont spend your gametime having a sook about half the cards in the format

​@@Pocket-Calculator Nice one.

Jasmine deserves a ban. Flamberge limit doesnt do much, I'd rather see Original banned.

The deck doesn't really have combos outside of something like Loptr + Monstrosity Loptr summon vala, no effect, monstrosity to summon hela + mardel, mardel add boss stage, overlay vala + mardel into enterblathnir to banish a card out of their hand detaching vala, hela tribute herself to reborn vala, vala reborn hela for another enterblathnir into overlaying for F0.

i.imgur.com/qy3ziEQ.png Refrain alone gets better with exceed the pendulum. This is refrain plus sword. You can go for the magnum draw 1 here or instead fuse off king of phantom beasts for the berfomet fusion and have diabellze on your field. Refrain by itself doesn't really do much. You can draw a card and if it's a monster get into magnum to draw another card. You can make a 2 material appo and pass. The combo for Refrain + Sword is normal refrain, effect to get couplet. Scale couplet, use pend effect to get concerto, fuse those 2 into bacha, cl3 couplet. Bacha summon tamtam, get poly, effect of refrain in scale to dump another refrain. Link off bacha and tamtam into cross sheep. Trigger bacha and concerto. Bacha summon back refrain from grave. Make exceed the pendulum, use her effects and make a 2 mat appo. Pend summon refrain and sword. Sword summon berfomet, get fusion + gazelle, fuse them into king of phantom beasts, do the thing, add nightmare apprentice or the thing you want her to search if you want to keep the draw off concerto. Chimera fusion add back. Fuse either refrain + your search into magnum or fuse king of phantom beasts + diabellze into berformet and send tao to reborn diabellze. Set chimera fusion, go end phase, rip 1.

I think u can. but in that case i would replace the blank with thrust which could get you a normal spell like ostinato.

I think you'd be better off playing pure or branded at that point which are both good.

Yes, you'd just be missing the poly searches.

@@ratkingdomygo in your opinion would that be a big impact?

Yeah I realized after about the refrain thing. Exceed the pendulum plays around that.

What did you put instead? I feel like the frightfur cards are pretty important to be able to make most chimera plays.

@@LamboJ20 more hts, I still don't belive this deck can play that well going second.

i.imgur.com/1BCUC0S.png I went X-1 at locals with this last week. I only had the 1 Nightmare Apprentice at the time but it worked well enough.