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Java Wealth - Personal Finance for Tech Employees
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2019
My name is Mike Zung, I'm a software engineer turned CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™.
I was blessed with a fantastic career in tech, and see the tremendous potential that this career carries for others. I have since reached a point in my financial journey and experience where I would like to pay it forward. I am a firm believer in living a life that aligns with your core values, and creating a company that is focused on financial literacy, empowerment and service is what that looks like for me.
The content on this channel is for educational purposes only--it is not to be taken as advice or recommendations. Consult your financial advisor for questions regarding your personal situation.
I was blessed with a fantastic career in tech, and see the tremendous potential that this career carries for others. I have since reached a point in my financial journey and experience where I would like to pay it forward. I am a firm believer in living a life that aligns with your core values, and creating a company that is focused on financial literacy, empowerment and service is what that looks like for me.
The content on this channel is for educational purposes only--it is not to be taken as advice or recommendations. Consult your financial advisor for questions regarding your personal situation.
How To Design a 10b5-1 Equity Compensation Trading Plan
Are you an executive & need to plan for how/when to sell your company stock?
In this video, I break down the basics of Rule 10b5-1 equity compensation trading plans. I discuss what they are, how they are used to ensure that company executives avoid insider trading when dealing with employer stock compensation (company shares, restricted stock units (RSUs), incentive stock options (ISOs)/non-qualified stock options (NSOs or NQSOs)) Finally, I'll cover some basic strategies to use when putting together your own 10b5-1 plan.
0:00 Intro
0:28 Trading windows & blackout periods
1:44 What is a 10b5-1?
2:56 Strategies
3:22 Time-based sales
3:48 Laddering
5:20 RSUs & stock options in a 10b5-1
6:20 Tax planning
6:49 Conclusion
www.javawealth.com
#rsu #stockoptions #personalfinance #executives
In this video, I break down the basics of Rule 10b5-1 equity compensation trading plans. I discuss what they are, how they are used to ensure that company executives avoid insider trading when dealing with employer stock compensation (company shares, restricted stock units (RSUs), incentive stock options (ISOs)/non-qualified stock options (NSOs or NQSOs)) Finally, I'll cover some basic strategies to use when putting together your own 10b5-1 plan.
0:00 Intro
0:28 Trading windows & blackout periods
1:44 What is a 10b5-1?
2:56 Strategies
3:22 Time-based sales
3:48 Laddering
5:20 RSUs & stock options in a 10b5-1
6:20 Tax planning
6:49 Conclusion
www.javawealth.com
#rsu #stockoptions #personalfinance #executives
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RSU are a joke unless u qre on the high end. I remember NQS optios - much easier to deal with. RSU was bcuz govt wanted money sooner Watch out re IRAs.....other Iras are pre-taxed, on the basis.
Sorry, I'm not following. - I don't feel RSUs are a joke, even at lower dollar values. It's just another form of compensation & should be understood & planned for. - Non-qualified stock options are absolutely not easier to deal with. - The comment re: IRAs is also incorrect, or at the very least, misleading.
question - if you buy shares in ESPP why would your companies payroll take ESPP tax repayment out of your paycheck? Wouldn't you only pay taxes when you sell the the stock ? Wouldn't this mean your being double taxed ?
There aren't any taxes related to ESPP withheld from your paycheck, just the cash being put aside to buy your company stock on the purchase date. You're correct that you don't realize any taxes until the year that you sell the stock. Did I explain that OK?
If I hold the stock for 2 years, how do I claim the offset additional tax I have already paid for the portion between 10 to 15. I assume that during the purchase date year, when I file taxes - my company reports the 8.50 to 15 as income right ??
No taxes are withheld or income realized until the shares are sold. All of it happens when you sell the shares. Thx for the question, hope this helps!
Great video!
Excellent explanation, very clear and easy to understand. Thank you!
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Thank you for the visual. After several videos I was so confused on the tax implications but the graphic made complete sense.
Thank you for the clear example! I have a question for a different situation: If the price was $15 on the offering date and dropped to $10 on the purchase date, then I sold it at $20 after 2 years from the offering date, how much will become capital gain? $5 or $10?
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Just sell, put in ROTH and trade SPY options (sell puts/calls -> wheel strategy) !😎
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Really straight forward explanation! Thanks
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At 5:12, why is cost basis the blue line and not the 8.50 line? Thanks!
What if your company do a stock split on your 2000 stocks promises In a 1 out of 10 ratio ?
When a company's stock, let's call it NVDA :), splits 10-for-1, the RSUs will also 10x. So you'd go from 2,000 to 20,000 RSUs.
@@JavaWealth thanks, I’ll follow your channel 👍
For NQSOs: Income tax is realized when options are exercised. Then say I hold on to the shares for a certain amount of time for whatever reason, the shares have appreciated in value. When I sell, would that just be LT gains tax? Thanks!
Yes, it'd be capital gains for the appreciation above the stock price at time of exercise. Short-term if sold <= 1 year from exercise, long-term if held longer.
@@JavaWealth Are you saying you would not owe any capital gains tax if it was sold immediately? As in there is no appreciation from the time of exercise?
Whoooph! That's tough!
Mike, thank you for XYPN presentation about equity compensation, it’s was brilliant 🎉 Lyubomyr
If ESPP fund is after tax fund, W2 Box 1 should not be included ESPP fund. So only at the time selling ESPP, the related oridinary income tax and Capital Gain tax need to be calculated.
Is ESPP after tax fund or before tax fund ?
This was extremely helpful - thank you!
This is the best ESPP explanation I have seen on TH-cam
Great video! Clear and to the point explanation of the RSU process. My one question is if we can sell our vested RSUs if the company is private?
Generally, no. Private company stock needs some type of liquidity event (company goes public, does a purchase offer, is acquired, etc) in order to sell your shares. There are also secondary markets/platforms that you may be able to sell your shares, but that depends on possible restrictions by your company, the demand for the stock and possibly how much you have available for sale.
@javawealth thanks for your prompt response!
Can you help me understand how the RSU share tax withholding would appear on a W-2? I am afraid that my shares are being withheld but the withholding doesn’t appear on my w-2 and I am paying taxes twice on them.
Generally speaking, both the income and tax withholding related to your RSUs are included in the total W2 wages / withholding numbers. A big gotcha is that, when you sell your RSUs, your 1099 will show a cost basis of $0. If you use that $0, then you will get taxed twice on your RSUs bc it's also reported in your W2. But there is usually a supplemental document on your stock plan's account that shows the adjusted cost basis to use.
How can I perform my calculations if the Company didn't grant me in terms of number of stocks but instead gave me a value in USD?
Thanks for this information! Really appreciated 😊
Hello! In this example, are ether or these plans qualified or non-qualified plans?
This is describing qualified plans
Thank you for this, it was very helpful and you did a great job breaking the ESPP process down!
if I have strong evidence that the company will do well in the future, would it make sense for me to exercise when the actual price of the stock is close to the exercise price? Would I theoretically avoid the income tax and only need to pay capital gains?
What happens when your company withholds shares but the total price of those shares are bigger than your tax amount? Ie your shares are on each 1k you got 4 shares and your tax income is about 30% so your company withholds 2 shares (2k) to pay 1.2k usd. Do you lose the other 800 usd ? Is there a way to recover them? Thanks for your video !
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:04 *💼 Understanding Employee Stock Purchase Plans (ESPPs)* - Employee Stock Purchase Plans (ESPPs) allow employees to purchase company stock at a discounted price through payroll deductions. - Enrollment periods determine participation, with employees electing to allocate a percentage of their salary to the ESPP. - Contributions accumulate in an escrow account until the purchase date, usually every six months, when stock is bought at a discount. 03:37 *💰 Taxation of Employee Stock Purchase Plans (ESPPs)* - ESPPs are subject to various tax implications, including ordinary income tax, short-term capital gains tax, and long-term capital gains tax. - Qualified ESPPs offer preferential tax treatment if the stock is held for at least one year from the purchase date and two years from the offering date. - Understanding the taxation timeline and potential tax benefits is crucial for maximizing returns and minimizing tax liabilities. 07:09 *📈 Deciding When to Sell ESPP Stock* - Employees must consider their risk tolerance and concentration risk when deciding when to sell ESPP stock. - Selling immediately locks in the discount but results in immediate taxation, while holding for longer may qualify for lower long-term capital gains tax rates. - The decision to hold beyond the two-year period depends on the stock's performance during the offering period and its impact on tax liabilities. Made with HARPA AI
this helped me so much
Thank you. How to report it on the tax form?
When your employer sells RSU shares to cover withholding, do they report that withholding on the W-2 in the same box as withholding for wages?
yes, both RSU wage income and the corresponding withholdings should be included in the same W-2 boxes.
Excellent video !! Thanks.
My company is doing the cash bonus option and I can't wait until my 1st grant date!
I retired (100% Normal S.S.) in 2022. Have 5 years (2018 to 2022) of ESPP at cost basis of $36,000 ($7,200 ave. X 5 years). Current stock value is $136,000. Don’t need to sell, but wanted to sell over a few years to minimize taxes. Should i ladder the sales to take advantage of the 2 year long-term period?
I can't answer for you specifically b/c there are a lot of other factors to consider for that type of question. A few considerations: - Taxes should inform, but not drive a decision to sell. A relatively small dip in stock price easily negates tax savings - Most of this is already past the qualifying period, so spreading sales out for tax reasons only matters if the total long-term gains would trigger the additional 3.8% NIIT or go into the 20% LTCG bracket. - For the ones that haven't reached 2 years, look to see what the ESPP did during the offering period. If it went down, it's actually better from a tax perspective to sell it before you hit the 2-year mark. Hope that all helps!
If for partial sales, would IRS treat taxable proceeds using First in, first out method? @@JavaWealth
Bestestest explanation so far 🎉
Very good video. Thanks for the breakdown