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Thanks for the suggestion! I suppose I could try it, not sure how comboey would be though

@CosmicCharles466 thanks for making cool pauper content bro, those combo decks you brew are pure fun. UNLEASH THE GOBLOMBO

Yeah, the audio gets ahead during match 1. I recorded the audio seperately so I could get better sound quality, but I must have been off with matching it for the first match.

Thanks for holding out, hope you enjoy it!

I should do another video on it. My times been severely restricted since I decided to go back to school, so I'm not sure how often I'll be able to upload.

Yeah, they are similar. I tried an intiative reanimator build that was ok. Maybe I should do a video on it.

Thanks for the input! I disagree that rumble is slower than glimpse or impulse. I think it's faster than either as it digs 4 and adds 1 mana. Why do you think it's slower than those options?

​@@CosmicCharles466​@CosmicCharles466 you play 18 lands and 16 instant/sorceries, that means that more than half of your deck gets you nothing with malevolent rumble! With glimpse you can play 3 cards, and it gets you 1 token each card you don't play... Wrenn's resolve and reckless impulse although don't give you token you can play them for two turns! I find them so much better. But that's me! But you could easily try them!

@@timellins The issue with glimpse is that it's unlikey you'll have 8 mana by turn 2/3; it can be decent as a ramp spell, but it's difficult to use as a draw spell in Turbo. Part of the issue with draw spells is that most of your mana isn't permanent, so tapping to draw can set you back manawise. Since Rumble can get a permanent and replaces 1 mana, it gets around this. If you miss on an initiative creature or Chrysallis or if you want mana, you can pick up a land, or SSG/Petal. Card draw can be good in good in turbo initative, but you would need more ritual effects. I could see a rubystorm intiative combo working out ok. Thanks for the input. I think I might try doing that!

Thanks, Enjoy!

Maybe -4 jewel + 4 rite to give the deck more oomph?

Rite of flame is worse a getting to 5 mana than Seething Song. Rite really shines in a deck with alot of card draw.

That could work, but in my testing, running rite and seething song made the deck prone to flooding. Also, having the rite didn't really increase my t2s by an appreciable %. It is still early days though, so maybe I'll go back to 4 rites if I find the deck slows down.

And how can you interact with combo decks such us glee combo?

Thanks! The ephemerates come in when you want to use them as protection, ie gardens.

@@CosmicCharles466 Thank you!

You don't. You hope to be faster and kill them before you combo. You could bring in breath weapon.

Np

Nice, have fun! What will you replace paladin with?

Thanks!

Ah, missed that one. I made a few missplays this league.

@@CosmicCharles466 it's all good man. Good run. I will play this for my channel this week if that's ok. I was actually trying to build this myself like 2 weeks ago

Sweet looking forward to it! Any changes? I haven't been as happy with Jewel Thief after I went down to 2 ephemerate. Chrysalis performs a similar role but better.

@@CosmicCharles466 haven't recorded yet so I'll probably just net yours haha

Nice! Enjoy!

Nice, what was the list like? I tried chrysalis whn mh3 came out, but I endrd up going down a weird rabbit hole with eldrazi tokens, spring leaf drum and festerhide boar.

@@CosmicCharles466 it was just missing all the support crew that you have here. I was thinking I could go 12 initiative with torch and then use spawns etc to make use of it

@@kalikaiz Ah ok. I was also considering Torch as a 2 of instead of ephem, but I felt it was a little too susceptible to losing the initiative.

@@CosmicCharles466 ephemerate was sick

@@kalikaizfor real, like cheating on top of cheating

Thanks! I tried a build with the anarchomancer and thorn package instead of kick and ephemerate, but I found it to be a little too fair.

They're not necessary, but you shouldn't really cast it if you're in a position where you would want a spell over an additional threat or mana.

Thanks! Yeah, swinging in is much easier as a win con. I just find the stream build to be more consistent in chaining. I haven't played paper in a while. I move around alot, so I pretty much only play paper in limited and with my buddy when I'm back in my hometown.

It's not as difficult as it seems, but it'd definitly be a race against the clock in paper and online when you first pick it up.

@@CosmicCharles466 I played the Guttersnipe version of the deck and got two 1:1 draws because we went to time. Then again, it was against Poison Storm and Familiars, so it was a race to see who could win their game of solitaire first.

Thanks, I will!

Thanks! Appreciate it!

I'm still having fun, but I do have a Temur Cascade league that I'll be posting soon. I haven't really been interested in poison storm lately, but I might try a league with it.

Thanks! I wouldn't say I've mastered it yet, but I'm definitly better.

Essa versão é melhor do que a com Guttersnipe?

Yeah, it's very hard to pilot, especially through hate.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Guttersnipe + Cane is a better wincon, but worse at drawing through your deck.

Ah yeah, you glimpse first. That does make it alot easier, thanks! What I meant by it not being a closed loop is that it requires different piles, so I don't think that you could short cut in paper. Still infinite though.

@@CosmicCharles466 I guess that's true. I think you can technically write out the full loop but it isn't the same every iteration so it would be like 15 steps haha

Lol yeah! Have you been playing the loop version? You're right about the cane win con being alot easier. Not needing to draw your entire deck each time can't be underestimated. The way I see it the loop build is better at drawing the deck, but the cane build is better at winning.

@@CosmicCharles466 I have pretty much put down the deck for the moment because hydroblast and removal has been too hard. But I wanted to help you out and find the line :)

@@kalikaiz Thanks, yeah it was getting painful. After watchung my gameplay, I can dee how glimpsing 1st would speed the whole jazz up. Yeah removal decks are hard. I've been getting lucky with my pairings so far.

Thanks! Yeah, the relief when you get to the loop is pretty sweet.

Pretty cool if we did, you could make a similar deck with it, electromancer and prophet.

Sounds pretty sweet!

Yeah, I really enjoy playing it, but It's an absolute nightmare to pilot online. I also imagine it's pretty frustrating to play against

Lol thanks! I was streaming a woodland video for my cat. I liked how it filled out the background in my last video, so I decided to keep doing it. I might do a bubbling brook or smtng next time. Ah! Thanks for telling me!

Thanks!

No, I only have the revolutionist as protection, which can protect against grave exile, but only if its in your hand and you have instant speed discard. You could run a 3rd stream over the revolutionist in the main though. It depends on how popular main deck exile effects are

Yeah, that would make it alot easier. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Yeah, that works too. I kind of want loop in the name though since it plays like a loop/eggs deck. Similar to storm, but different.

Nice! That's a sweet name! Why Youth? You know what Electric Loops sounds like youth.

Thanks! They've been working pretty well!

Nice!! Sounds like you're having a good time!

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah, it's relatively new. Thanks GGs!

Yeah, somehow all my decks end up being Temur! I swear it's not intentional.

@@CosmicCharles466 It's a fun color combination. Now that I got the red depletion lands, I might try the Temur poison storm version at some point.

@@ValerieEnriquez It is a fun colour combo. GL with poisoin storm. Teach by example into insight is tons of fun!

Awesome! Yeah, in paper the opp would just scoop once it was deterministic.

Yeah, it's really click intensive. I think I misclicked both matches and needed the revolutionist to save me. I haven't been too concerened about interaction, although maybe I should be. Running a 3rd stream + some other form of protection seems to be good enough to get around most things. But then again, this my first time streaming, so I don't really have the exp on post board gameplay

Have you considered having your MD win con be guttersnipe, and then to combat weather the storms and prismatic strands, sideboarding out the Guttersnipes into Stream of Thoughts? Seems like that would also mean you could cut any flaring pains from your SB to make room for the Streams.

@@SirCharlesOfKanto stream has a few problems that I don't like very much. I think that it's pretty easy to beat weather overall with this deck. So I tried stream before but bailed on it

@@kalikaiz is the main problem time on MTGO? If so, I mainly play irl so that shouldn't be much of a problem. I'm about to buy the deck so I'm trying to make sure I've looked into all the options XD

@@SirCharlesOfKanto you open yourself up to pyroblast, grave hate, and stuff like forced draw. And it's a lot more complex to find the win

Yeah, I didn't have to go for it then, but I really wanted to!

Thanks! That is the loop. I see it as just morphose and stream, but every 2-3 loops you need to shuffle back in a glimpse or another draw spell. I think it's possible to do with big score as well in case morphose gets exiled.

@@CosmicCharles466 yeah maybe!

Can you explain how the loop works here? I'm having some trouble figuring it out and can't find any resources on it.

@@SirCharlesOfKanto here's what you do: once you have 0 cards in library and non-randomn card draw in hand, exile, or flashback ready, you shuffle in a stream and manamorphoses. Before you run out of card draw in hand/exile/flashback you'll need to shuffle back in a glimpse with the loop as well to continue looping.

It might not be the exact same every time with what you put back actually. Maybe if you build a bunch of blue you can put back a song You're going to stream them with zero in your library and put back a 4 card pile then draw into the full pile again

It's kind of fighting with glimpse, the other card draws are either mana producers or discard fodder. Glimpse/ideas only perform the card draw role and glimpse is in that spot. I haven't really been able to make room for it. Although, I suppose I could manage to squeeze in one or two....I'll see what has some flex.

Tbh ideas feels good in the combo but is absolutely terrible pre combo turn

​@@kalikaizI get it now after watching the latest video with Demand Answers. It definitely helps set up turns and lopsided openers.

Enjoy!

What's the deterministic loop? Is it 3 morphose plus Stream?

Thanks! Desperate ravings as flashback draw spell # 5-8 is what really drew me to try out the 8 big score plan. I've been thinking about that card in pauper eversince I drafted a limited deck with 5 of them.

@@CosmicCharles466 right now I'm actually thinking of replacing ideas with demand answers and highway robbery. Demand can sac some extra treasures as legit card draw

@@kalikaiz Seems interesting, looking forward to the video!

@@matthewmagda4971 it's morphose + stream, but you'll need a few other piles before hand with glimpse to stack your hand with draw before getting there.

Thanks! Yeah, I spent sometime getting some games on my laptop, only to find that my playback wasn't working. So I played on my other laptop, but the replay broke from the combo. So I figured I'd upload one game so as to not have a complete waste before playing it live. I have to practice with it a bit first so it'll be a bit before a video, but hopefull this or next week. Stream of thought has been sick, good suggestion!

​@@CosmicCharles466 how often do you target yourself with Stream to dig further?

@@matthewmagda4971 it depenfs on how my graveyard looks like and whether I have a stream or a revolutionist in hand or exile, or how many of those are in the deck. If all 3 of those cards end up in the yard you have no way of winning.

Thanks!

I like it, but I prefer grotto for fixing the top of the library since it's untapped, can filter for other colours and bottom cards. It is a good option though.