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@@glensutherland1103 you're welcome Glen. Thanks for watching.

@@luizfelipeferreirafernande5567 there is a small nut that fastens the chain to the bottom of the spring assembly, is that still connected? If not, it's possible that the spring assembly has come away from the piece of metal that the spring is attached to. It might be worth taking the stand to a music shop to see if they can diagnose the problem and order you the right part. I hope you can get it sorted

@@chrismills2192 thanks for watching. I'd say that it's either that there is play in the shaft ( something has come loose for instance on either the axle or the beater holder - or have you changed spring tension settings?), or it might possibly be technique-based. If you really concentrate on what you're playing does the double-hit still happen? Have you changed your technique or even your foot position at all? (Heel up/heel down/position on the footboard/burying the beater in the drum head etc). These things can easily result in a double-hit

@@stephenmumblez thanks for watching Stephen. This problem sounds like the beater shaft diameter is too small and not tightening up properly in the hole? When the screw is backed off (loose), does the beater shaft have a fair bit of play (wobble) in the housing? If so this could be because it's too small for the pedal. If not, it could be that the screw or hole is cross-threaded, or 'threaded' as some say? meaning that it will not tighten up properly no matter how much you tighten it. If it's not either of those above issues, then perhaps the beater shaft isn't set far enough down for the screw thread to make contact with it? Check that the screw goes far enough in to make contact Best of luck solving this. Replacement parts are available for most makes of pedals, so hopefully you'll get to the bottom of it. Cheers. Pete

@@KarsonTraue-dj1oh that's great to hear Karson. All the best.

@@KarsonTraue-dj1oh Awesome! I'm glad the vid helped. thanks for letting me know.

I'm not sure what the thread size is exactly but I'd guess it's either 6mm or 8mm. You could contact Ludwig and see if they'll send you one, but it'll probably be more expensive. Alternatively, buy yourself a set of assorted nuts (and bolts too maybe) and you'll be able to get a 6mm or 8mm to match. Maybe even try a hardware store.

Saying that, check to see if you have two nuts locked up together on the bottom of the spring assembly threaded bar

Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching

It's hard to say, without seeing it, but I'm going to have a try and guess what it could be anyway: Assuming you're definitely tightening it and not loosening it, the hook could be lifting up too high when you turn the screw, perhaps crushing the hook slightly to be more closed might help. If it's a decent pedal, then maybe the spring assembly is worn out, if it's a cheap pedal though, the hook won't be very adjustable unfortunately and it will keep happening. Sorry I can't be any more help, if you are able to describe the problem in better detail I will try to advise more - does it fall off while you turn it? Or whilst playing? What make is it? How tight is the spring set? That sort of info might help. Hope you can solve it.

That's annoying. Assuming that it's just one nut - and not two nuts done up tight against each other - then It might just have been over tightened, in which case, finding a suitable sized mini wrench or spanner will help to undo it. Make sure you're turning the correct way to undo. If it still won't undo, then. Maybe try a drop of penetrating oil first, let it soak in and it will soften it up - you may need to reapply a few times. If you do get it undone, clean the oil off the threads before reassambling. If you're really desperate to get it off and adjust it, then you may be able to just cut it off with a hacksaw and buy a new spring and nut assembly and fit it. Make sure to check compatibility first though. If it's a Cheap pedal though then it would be better and cheaper to just upgrade the pedal, even if it's a second hand one. Good luck with the fix. Thanks for watching

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You're welcome. Happy drumming

If you mean the clamp that clamps to the hoop, then perhaps it's just jammed or stuck? Make sure you're turning it anti clockwise to undo it. If it is stuck, then maybe a bit of a tap or knock might free it off. Hope you get it sorted

@@BeatmastersGuild I think mine is broken :( I have no idea how to make in normal, unfortunately I can't send you photo thru youtube

Thank you 👍

Most likely to be the clamp coming undone yes, check the clamp is tightening properly. You may need a hoop protector strip on the hoop too if the clamp doesn't tighten up properly. but also check that the angle of the bass drum is correct too - not too steep or wonky. What type of pedal is it? Is it like the basic one I show here with a flat bar underneath it? Or is it like the other two I show with rails underneath

Mine's the inch level one the first one you show in the video when you go through them!

@@jordonpolete7381 in that case you need to make sure that the flat bar underneath is attached to the clamp properly, before you tighten the clamp down onto the hoop. If you have done that and it still comes away, then I would strongly suggest a cheap second hand upgrade would make a massive difference to your playing and enjoyment of it. There's loads of bargains on gumtree/marketplace etc and you can probably pick up a decent make mind range pedal by the likes of tama, pearl, Mapex, sonor, Gibraltar etc, nice and cheap. It's definitely worth it. Those really cheap pedals are notoriously bad for falling apart in every way, they're also horrible to play on

Without seeing and hearing it it's hard to tell exactly, but could be a few things; firstly the spring tension could be set too tight, or the sensitivity threshold setting in the module or 'brain' is set too high and it's double triggering, or finally, it could potentially be a technique issue - where you place your foot on the footboard and how you play (heel up or down etc) all makes a difference. Do you get the same issue on an acoustic kit? If so, it might be technique, if not, it'll be the wrong spring tension, angle of attack and/or module threshold setting. Good luck, hope you solve it either way

@@BeatmastersGuild I adjusted the spring tension and now feels WAY better! Thanks! 🙏

There might be a way of doing it if you take it all apart and reassamble the axle with the cam in a different position, but it can be complicated and not really worth it. I will say this though, if you upgrade your pedal to even a budget second hand one, you'll notice a big improvement in feel and how nice it is to play. Treat yourself

It's a really common problem unfortunately. What you can do though, is get a second nut and tighten it up against the first nut to stop it coming undone. It does work. Alternatively, there are clutches available now that have locking nuts on them so they never come undone. Worth having a look. Makes like DW, yamaha, Tama, pearl etc all do them. Check compatibility with the size of your pull rod first though.

This is a really common problem Chris, I feel your plight. There are a couple of solutions to try though; you could add a second nut underneath the first one (tightened up firmly against the first nut and then they won't come undone), or you could change the clutch assembly for one of the ones with a locking bottom nut (they lock with a drum key). Gibraltar, tama, Yamaha, pearl etc all make them. You'll need to check compatibility with your stand first though, but they're all great and worth the money

@@BeatmastersGuild I’ll definitely look into a locking clutch, thanks. I do use a second nut underneath the first one but it comes undone now and then too. Thanks though :)

@@StickDropper516 the double nut method needs a little nip up with a wrench/spanners to work best - don't overtighten though. Sounds like the locking clutch is probably the best option for you. They're really convenient for quick set up time too

Best way of stopping it coming loose is to get a second nut (a hardware store will help find you the right size if you're not sure) and tighten that up against the first one (once you've set the desired tension first). Or, you could get some loctite or thread lock fluid, and apply a bit to the thread of the nut - this will be harder to adjust in the future though. First method will be better.

Sounds like you need to increase the spring tension on the stand. There is a dial (or wheel ), or drum key operated screw, on the hi-hat stand that can be tightened to give a stronger spring setting. I'd try that first. Hope you can sort it.

Yes try problem three, but possibly also the angle of the bass drum reso head side playing a part too. Watch around 5:10 onwards and then check yours

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

If you take the assembly to a hardware store you can probably buy a generic nut to fit on - possibly 6mm/8mm - different makes are different sizes so I don't know for sure. However, the easiest route is to buy a new 'bass drum pedal spring tensioner assembly'. It'll come with the spring washer that's needed too. Make sure you get the correct make though and make sure it is compatible with your model of pedal

It's difficult to say exactly as it'll depend on the make of stand. I'll hazard a guess and say 6mm thread though on average. You could replace with a bolt from a hardware store if you take it in to match it up. Alternatively, you can replace the whole 'hi-hat rest' (that's the round plastic part that the felt sits on and joins to the down tube.) You can buy hi-hat rests online or through local drum store. Again, check the make though if you're going that route. You may also have to chisel the old one off as sometimes they are glued on tight (don't do that until you have a matching replacement though obviously!). Cheapest route will be a new bolt though but it may keep coming loose if there's a problem with the nut inside the hi-hat rest. Good luck, hope you can get it sorted.

That's brilliant! Always good to hear that it's been helpful. Thanks for watching

This was really helpful when I was trying to figure out the angle of attack directions

That's great to hear. Welcome aboard, let me know if you get stuck and have any questions. Happy drumming Shawn

@@BeatmastersGuild Careful. as a newb my ignorance is vast, at the start is seems like Everest, just trying to take small steps and you helped.

You could try adjusting your spring tension to see if that helps at all, but from experience of teaching others that have had similar issues to this, it sounds like a technique issue. There's no problem with keeping pulse with your left foot, but it's best to utilise that in your playing if you're going to do it - try playing deliberate quarter notes or eighth notes with your left foot (heel up) and use it to your advantage. It can sound great while your right hand is on the ride cymbal but I've seen it done while playing on the hi-hats too. It's muscle memory and will take time to perfect, so work slowly at first before trying faster tempos. Remember that there should be minimal tension in your body when you play though. Best of luck. Thanks for watching.

@@BeatmastersGuild I do play quarter notes. I like playing quarter notes with my foot. It's fun and spices up the groove so much. But this tension issue that I have throws in a one eight note in my game, a note that I don't want there. Now, I'm not yet that good with foot driven eight notes on hi-hat, it still messes up my dominant foot when I try, so I stay away from em for now 🙂 But I will keep working on it. The thing is, it appears my hi-hat stand does not have spring tension adjustment. I looked for it, but could not find none. The stand was a gift from a fellow drummer. Now, is it possible (if there are hi-hat stands without spring tension adjustment as an option) that I got that very one that has no tension adjustment? Could that be the case here? But if I have had a stand that has spring tension adjustment, how would I go about adjusting it? What does one do exactly? One more thing, how do I tell the two stands apart. If I wanted a hi hat stand with a spring tension adjustment, what exactly should I look for when I am out shopping for one, so I don't end up buying another stand that has no spring tension adjustment? What's the tell tale sign I have to pay attention to?

@@alisaljic it's still worth a look at technique and see if there's any underlying issues there. Remember to keep things slow when making changes. As for stands without spring tension adjustment; yes some stands don't have it. If they do have adjustability, it's usually a small dial/wheel above the footboard near the bottom of the stand. The tighter you make it, the harder it is to press the cymbals together. Most stands these days have adjustability though except really cheap models mid range models from - Mapex pearl Tama DW Gibraltar Natal Yamaha etc will be fine. The more you spend, the more control you have over things. No substitute for dialing technique first though

@@BeatmastersGuild Thanks 👍🖖

That's thorough. I wouldn't worry too much about the beater position then (provided that it's not too far off centre)

Firstly, what a great set up! Dw5000 pedal with a SJC custom kit!? - I bet that's fantastic! As for the beater position, don't worry too much. It's quite normal for the beater to hit just off dead centre, especially on smaller bass drums. The 5000 pedals, although excellent, are slightly harder to position in my opinion than some other makes. You can adjust the beater holder on the axle and slide it along (left or right ) a bit if you need (think it's an hex key adjustment just underneath) but a tiny bit off centre is generally ok. Thank you for watching and enjoy the new kit!

Oh yeah. It’s a beautiful setup. I’ll be 40 soon and I’ve always wanted to customize my own kit. I’m grateful for it no doubt. Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I figured it’s probably nothing to be concerned about, it’s just the OCD side of me wanting it to be in the center. lol. I actually have the DW 9000 pedal not the 5000 and I can’t really figure out how to adjust the cam position horizontally but if you think it’s nothing to worry about and I’m not missing out on any punch then I’ll leave it for now. Thank you kindly good sir.

@@DrumN4Jesus oh yeah, I've just re-read it and saw that it was a 9000 pedal you have, not the 5000, sorry. I'm not so familiar with that model as I don't have one, but a quick look online myself and I couldn't see an obvious way of adjusting the beater position L-R on the axle, so it might be difficult to get dead-centre alignment. The main thing to consider, is the sound and the feel of it - if the pedal feels good to play and the sound is good, then I wouldn't worry too much. After all, concert bass drums aren't played dead-centre and it's less-critical on an acoustic kit than it is on an electric kit (for triggering consistency reasons). As long as it isn't miles off! Happy drumming and enjoy the great set up you've got! Thanks for watching

Thanks for watching. Much appreciated

You could always try using a drop of loctite or similar thread lock fluid to hold it in the position that you want it - once you've got it in the right position for you obviously. Failing that, an upgraded pedal will definitely make a difference. It'll feel nicer to play too.

@@BeatmastersGuild oh yeah, true! Thanks for the recommendation :). I was talking with a guitar center worker who I’ve sorta known from the store for a while who recommended (for me not wanting to spend d a lot) tama iron cobra 200 or DW 2000 so I might invest soon!

@@poolpartyjacob they're both good pedals. You'll notice a difference if you do upgrade. Good luck and happy drumming

Thank you. Much appreciated