I’m not a big bus fan, but during my childhood in the 1970’s, I do remember these on the old CIE Expressway services between Dublin Busaras, Navan & Kells and later on, some Irish coach operators used these vehicles too
Hello its Dave Smith from , formerly Smiths of Brenzett, excellent video, love the Leopards, had over 20 of them, also owned SND352X which i am sure was new to Maynes, was a Tiger 218 though, lovely motor, memories hey. best regards Dave Smith
Reminds me of my journeys as a mid teen on the old London Link service X6 from Victoria coach station to Bracknell (Ladbrookes Mercury hotel). Lovely sounds once again. Thanks!
Yes, take it from gear to neutral a second or so before releasing the accelerator, to let the gear band release. These pedestal change Leopards were a delight.
Maynes of Warrington had two I may have driven this one when I was working there with Doreen the used to be parked under cover garage the way I used to drive it I used to always do the college run I can’t remember if it was northwich or Nantwich
There is something strangely mesmerising about watching this. I too spent many a journey too and from school on a Leopard, mid 70's vintage, manual door. Ah the memories. Even had a few school trips down the motorway in one. However that driving position looks so awkward, these things don't look built with driver comfort in mind
Lovely sound on this, and reminds me of the Plaxton's Barton Transport (Chilwell, Nottingham) had back in the day, with the double "Grant" pasenger doors...... Leyland 0.680 in this old girl par chance?
Credit to you sir, absolutely adore the Leopard as a machine. Regrettably, I had to sell mine, due to lack of suitable storage, something I now regret since mine was unique............but now in good hands! The sound from the Leyland engine coupled to that pneumocyclic 'box is phenomenal and sitting in a Leopard is a great experience.......perhaps the best bus chassis/engine combination ever built....unburstable, simple technology.
What an absolutely fab machine, love these and especially Volvo B58's with the same gearshift, would love to own either, cant seem to find a clip of a B58 with same gearshift on here
I used to love the air & electric over air. Would pride myself on being able to change gear up and down, smoothly. A few cowboys out there gave the boxes a bad name!! Even drove an ex-military Ford bus with an air shift for a while. Turbocharged and would go like a rocket.... Aaaah.... those were the days.....
He knows how to treat a semi auto! Too many simply slammed them through on full power. I only drove one Leopard with the air change, the regular ones were electro pneumatic ones ( Alexander Y types). We had several Atlanteans with the air change though, i always preferred them though every one acted differently. Some you kept the throttle down for a moment after selecting neutral, and selected the next gear before the revs had dropped fully, knowing that by the time it gripped the gear they would have done. All delayed action. And after having the same bus for a week and got the timing perfect, it would go in for service and I'd have another for the day. Which was the same type, but reacted totally differently resulting in a few snatchy changes until one got the feel of it! To me though, the best bus to drive has to be the Tiger.
Years ago, I had a Bristol RE, with the same 680 engine, but with a 4 speed box, and "country" back axle. On a trip from Bristol to Weymouth, and back, I managed an average of 16mpg, which I think is very good!
@craigybus1 Dead right mate. I've driven mk2 Nationals and Bristol VRs with the 5speed semi-auto and 2nd gear is the one you use to pull away. 1st is just a crawling gear and very rarely gets used. Lovely old vehicles and very sad indeed there not around in service any more.
plaxton body i used to drive a coach like this for national travel west skelhorne street liverpool love the gear box on them we had some in national holiday's livery and on motorway once you got it going 70mph + 3rd lane leopard engine fantastic dam good bloody work horse they would run all day/night not a problem thanks for posting
Used to drive an pneumocyclic Atlantean on Schools (SNU 459X), I loved driving it, used to use the gearbox exactly like this, timed perfect smooth ride! A lot didn't use the gearbox right I hasten to add!
No need whatsoever to use first though when pulling off. Its a crawler gear. Any 5 speed semi auto is designed to be able to pul away on the flat in 2nd, and every stick box PCV ive driven pulls away in 2nd fine even on hills.
That guy is handling the pneumocyclic precisely right, a joy to watch! The Coach looks great as well, nice condition, I think thats a Plaxton Supreme Body if I'm not mistaken.
Sounds like these drivers hadn't been taught the art of changing gear. Straight-through changes aren't recommended with a semi-auto box, as it ends up ruining the gearbox bands and can cause premature gearbox failure. There should always be a pause between gearchanges.
Hi there, a bit late in reply. Yeah it's a crawler gear, I'm actually looking for the bigger version of these shifters in the 5 speed , I restore these types..
Probably, yes. I guess it would make for a rough ride if you were to do so when downshifting and maybe even when upshifting too. I dont know what the red button is for, i have seen it on some buses...
I remember my lecturer used to work for a bus company and they would call the drivers "the animals" mentioned an essential device to cut rpm to shift, he may be just saying what u r saying, I cant remember? whats the red button for that some have in middle of gear shifter gate? not this one.
I’m not a big bus fan, but during my childhood in the 1970’s, I do remember these on the old CIE Expressway services between Dublin Busaras, Navan & Kells and later on, some Irish coach operators used these vehicles too
Hello its Dave Smith from , formerly Smiths of Brenzett, excellent video, love the Leopards, had over 20 of them, also owned SND352X which i am sure was new to Maynes, was a Tiger 218 though, lovely motor, memories hey. best regards Dave Smith
A real bus. So glad I was exposed to various Leylands and AEC's.
Reminds me of my journeys as a mid teen on the old London Link service X6 from Victoria coach station to Bracknell (Ladbrookes Mercury hotel). Lovely sounds once again. Thanks!
Beautifully driven, perfect gear changes up and down the box. Takes me back to my Eastern National / National Holidays days in the 1980's
Yes, take it from gear to neutral a second or so before releasing the accelerator, to let the gear band release. These pedestal change Leopards were a delight.
Sound of my childhood, even down to the little "choo" from the shifter at 6:28
Music to my ears!
Maynes of Warrington had two I may have driven this one when I was working there with Doreen the used to be parked under cover garage the way I used to drive it I used to always do the college run I can’t remember if it was northwich or Nantwich
wonderfull sound too of the engine. good driving.
Nice old coach, passed my test in something similar in the 90’s except it was a full stick and clutch manual....
There is something strangely mesmerising about watching this. I too spent many a journey too and from school on a Leopard, mid 70's vintage, manual door. Ah the memories. Even had a few school trips down the motorway in one. However that driving position looks so awkward, these things don't look built with driver comfort in mind
Just the best combination. Beautiful engine and gearbox. Brings back many childhood memories that noise.
Fantastic video! I'm sure that's the same type of Leyland engine our Leopards used over here, almost sounds like it 😁
Lovely sound on this, and reminds me of the Plaxton's Barton Transport (Chilwell, Nottingham) had back in the day, with the double "Grant" pasenger doors...... Leyland 0.680 in this old girl par chance?
Credit to you sir, absolutely adore the Leopard as a machine. Regrettably, I had to sell mine, due to lack of suitable storage, something I now regret since mine was unique............but now in good hands! The sound from the Leyland engine coupled to that pneumocyclic 'box is phenomenal and sitting in a Leopard is a great experience.......perhaps the best bus chassis/engine combination ever built....unburstable, simple technology.
Indeed, and has to have a Leyland fitted, ideally the 0.680, although in Ireland, the fools had Detroit's fitted, which was awful.
i would love a shot of one
Sure i have drove this , when at Barry cooper ,Mayne.
If I close my eyes it takes me back to going to school on one of these
+Neil Melville same here :-) W R Spring and son and Castleways ooh and N N Cresswell
+James Stephenson it was Tay Valley Coaches for me
I agree with Duncan, a fab machine. The lovely gearchange and that deep exhaust sound. Ahh memories of Grey Green.
Stephen Williams howls louder than a wolf
What an absolutely fab machine, love these and especially Volvo B58's with the same gearshift, would love to own either, cant seem to find a clip of a B58 with same gearshift on here
Wonderful !!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to love the air & electric over air. Would pride myself on being able to change gear up and down, smoothly. A few cowboys out there gave the boxes a bad name!! Even drove an ex-military Ford bus with an air shift for a while. Turbocharged and would go like a rocket.... Aaaah.... those were the days.....
That would have been awesome 👍
I'd feel uncomfortable with steering so low put strain on back and shoulders.
***** hahahahaaa, they live on junk food from services on the motorway.
He knows how to treat a semi auto! Too many simply slammed them through on full power. I only drove one Leopard with the air change, the regular ones were electro pneumatic ones ( Alexander Y types). We had several Atlanteans with the air change though, i always preferred them though every one acted differently. Some you kept the throttle down for a moment after selecting neutral, and selected the next gear before the revs had dropped fully, knowing that by the time it gripped the gear they would have done. All delayed action. And after having the same bus for a week and got the timing perfect, it would go in for service and I'd have another for the day. Which was the same type, but reacted totally differently resulting in a few snatchy changes until one got the feel of it! To me though, the best bus to drive has to be the Tiger.
She sounds as sweet as a nut :) nice throttle dip on it
Nice pause between changes with rev on downshift,correct way to drive the semi auto box
mate - you drive that beauty so beautiful :)
Years ago, I had a Bristol RE, with the same 680 engine, but with a 4 speed box, and "country" back axle. On a trip from Bristol to Weymouth, and back, I managed an average of 16mpg, which I think is very good!
I know its stupid to ask of this particular vehicles 'economy' but being a 11.1 liter six cylinder diesel, they must be rather heavy on the fuel?
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Nice manual gearbox action. You do not see it much nowadays.
Sam Sprinks that is no manual gearbox!
@craigybus1 Dead right mate. I've driven mk2 Nationals and Bristol VRs with the 5speed semi-auto and 2nd gear is the one you use to pull away. 1st is just a crawling gear and very rarely gets used. Lovely old vehicles and very sad indeed there not around in service any more.
can it drive with ZF gearbox
plaxton body i used to drive a coach like this for national travel west skelhorne street liverpool love the gear box on them we had some in national holiday's livery and on motorway once you got it going 70mph + 3rd lane leopard engine fantastic dam good bloody work horse they would run all day/night not a problem thanks for posting
Ohhhh that sound of the engine. It just sounds exactly like that of the buses in Holland. Also Leyland. Awesome!!!
Yes indeed. Nice than the later DAF
nice driving mate, used to drive these at Strathtay many years ago
That man can operate a leyland leopard. I remember going to school on them and every time they changed gear the pasangers heads flew back .
Used to drive an pneumocyclic Atlantean on Schools (SNU 459X), I loved driving it, used to use the gearbox exactly like this, timed perfect smooth ride! A lot didn't use the gearbox right I hasten to add!
No need whatsoever to use first though when pulling off. Its a crawler gear. Any 5 speed semi auto is designed to be able to pul away on the flat in 2nd, and every stick box PCV ive driven pulls away in 2nd fine even on hills.
That guy is handling the pneumocyclic precisely right, a joy to watch! The Coach looks great as well, nice condition, I think thats a Plaxton Supreme Body if I'm not mistaken.
Great driver! Especially the blip on the throttle before shifting down. Should use this as a training video :o)
Just how they should be driven.
The gear shift lever is similar to UTA Sydney/Newcastle Leopards.
Sounds like these drivers hadn't been taught the art of changing gear. Straight-through changes aren't recommended with a semi-auto box, as it ends up ruining the gearbox bands and can cause premature gearbox failure. There should always be a pause between gearchanges.
I think that was just a warning light when in reverse
so some had an overdrive or was it a crawler?
Hi there, a bit late in reply. Yeah it's a crawler gear, I'm actually looking for the bigger version of these shifters in the 5 speed , I restore these types..
maybe u select a seat and auto eject passengers that u dont like!
Probably, yes. I guess it would make for a rough ride if you were to do so when downshifting and maybe even when upshifting too. I dont know what the red button is for, i have seen it on some buses...
I remember my lecturer used to work for a bus company and they would call the drivers "the animals" mentioned an essential device to cut rpm to shift, he may be just saying what u r saying, I cant remember? whats the red button for that some have in middle of gear shifter gate? not this one.