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I have not used the rnr motion card in this video. If you have substituted the shown breakout board for the rnr motion card then it could be incorrect driver installation, missing driver files, missing plugin, faulty card, incorrect wiring etc.

@@nsa1773 So where can I find the drivers for this card? I think I used the wrong card files?

@@printerautomations The card in the video uses a standard old type pc parallel interface and no drivers are required the older the PC the better. If your pc does not have a parallel interface you are better purchasing a usb to parallel motion controller i.e. UC100. A cheap usb to parallel interface will not be reliable.

@@nsa1773 I worked hard this evening and I'm still trying, I think my computer's LPT is not working, I'll check again tomorrow, thank you. My computer is Windows 7, it is an old computer

@@printerautomations Make sure the parallel port is enabled in the bios, set to epp/ecp and identify port address. There is a driver test.exe in the Mach3 directory. This breakout board to work requires power via the USB socket at all times and will require a separate 12-24v supply to use inputs /relay/pwm. Have you viewed my other video at th-cam.com/video/auXuJQI3tO4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UUNk95vqwj71Uqwz

WTF!! Thank you for the over dramatic response. There is a slight perspective error in the photograph used for the Stepper drive and the printing of the labels on the drive but there are only six inline signal connections and the Blue wire is connected to PUL+, DIR+ AND ENABLE+ and is connected to the +5v PIN2.

PUL+/DIR+/ENA+ are normally connected together and connected to the BOB +5v supply. The PUL-/DIR-/ENA- are connected to the correct pins on the BOB and configured in MACH3. The axis PUL signal will be configured for active low on. DIR can be configured / changed to active low off or on to suit default direction as required by machine. ENA- can be left not connected and the drive will function. If ENA- is connected then MACH3 Enable can be configured to stop the drive on an Estop etc or until mach 3 system is reset. This is as the Leadshine manual. The wiring / system can be setup with the PUL/DIR/ENA negatives commoned to BOB GND and the relevant PUL/DIR/ENA positive signals connected to the BOB and MACH3 settings changed accordingly.

@@nsa1773 Thanks 🙏👍

An older desktop PC (WinXP?) is best for this type of breakout board with inbuilt motherboard Parallel port which operates at 5v logic. The port address is found in the main bios of the PC. After setup of your Machine / axis / wiring / mach3 etc if your X+ or Y+ or Z+ etc axis move in the opposite to your intended +ve direction then changing the state of the Dir Low Active signal for each incorrect axis will correct the movement. As we have connected the PUL+ to +5v the drive electronics usually uses 'Step Low Active enabled Green Tick! configuration for Step pulse control. I control / turn my spindle on/off and speed setting manually from its own control box.

Thank you for your comment. Limits switch arrangements can be dependent on the system application. Limits switches and estops should be Normally closed contacts which are physically broken by the switch activation. Estops should be separate to limit switches and whilst mach3 and other systems can disable the drives through the breakout board and software I always in industrial application run my estops through a safety monitoring relay and physically also safely kill power and enable signals to the drives. In my first initial startup system I had two n.c. Limits switches wired in series for each axis for each axis connected to the three inputs, mach3 was then configured to use one of the switches for each axis as a homing switch. The activation of any limits switch in operation will stop the entire process, and on reset will allow the system to be reversed from the activated limit switch.

@@nsa1773 OK. i think all need stop sure than E-stop if axis bush top of rail limti sw, because then machine have somethink lot wrong if drive out of area/rail. limit sw have top of linear rail ,and home sw have important run all axis first to home, and home sw have different dimension to axis, top have limit stop SW and then near have home SW home only zero axs but can drive motor out home swit top rail and then have limit this mean have top rail and not can go more then need stop all machine because have dangerous and broke machine if can run after limit sw. example i has tes one cnc and all limit SW has not conected, Z block run out of machine and broken all beam supports, have important limit SW stop sure all machine, if G-code have somethink wrong run out and fast you not can bush E-stop than fast if go full speed out of beam etc. limit SW have just this important stop motors if run out. home SW have normal machine zero point need run, same than need zero bit ewerytime if change tool. not crash to table bit or run under table, or run broken parts. software limit not have real and safe system only. need be ewery axis top limit SW. emergency limit.

The five axis breakout board in the video can only control 5 axis if the spindle relay is not required. Only 4 axis with spindle relay. The normal answer would be to add a second parallel port to the machine and a second breakout board. A ethernet controller UC400ETH + second bob and cables may be the best option.

Yes, you can wiring 20 drivers in the same step and dir pin "i guess"

@@pedrohenriqueph8908 but then ALL move same,

Brian....the more voltage the better as long as it does not exceed your stepper driver maximum voltage. Modern stepper drives control the current to the drives for higher voltage allow for maximum torque / power to be delivered at higher speeds. A good website for info on this is geckodrive.com

@@nsa1773 thanks, I just got it rewired and think my breakout board might be failing, x wants to only go one direction and z errors with no movement at all

@@brianheath72 have you had the system working previously.

@@nsa1773 Yes, but I moved and didn't have it up for about 5 months

@@nsa1773 better use driver maximum or near power to motors, better torque. etc, DM542 or 556 max volt have 50 volt power have better use near this about 46-48volt supply,voltage, not use motor power 12-24 votl weak lot and lose steps.

Yes you use P17 / The on board relay to switch your router on / off. To protect the life of the on board relay I would probably use it to switch another relay / solid state relay. If you do use the onboard relay contacts at high voltage - place a snubber across the contacts to improve the contact life.

What is your vfd?. Can you post wiring diagram bob to vfd and your mach3 config file somewhere to view. What version of mach3 are you using V3.043.066, laptop or pc? Which version of Windows?

@@nsa1773 Hi its working thank you for your valuable reply and # one important doubt sir..how to configuration for 8station motorized turret. My turret have two sensors one for reference tool no-1 and another one for count so kindly help me sir

@@vijaymecheng Turrets / 8 station ATC’s usually require some kingdom of macro in mach3. I believe many have been written and posted on the mach3 forum site. Also I have previously come across this video th-cam.com/video/DycOT5ki_6U/w-d-xo.html

Hi, this video is meant as an add on assuming the rest of the board is connected to a three axis stepper drive system see th-cam.com/video/rcUoUkdcE18/w-d-xo.html. This just provides an option if you may want to change spindle direction. Enable 1 - port 1 pin 14 is used to enable the stepper motors / stop the motors on an estop condition etc.

@@nsa1773 dear sir, My spindle motor rotates both CW/CCW relay output. 14 and 16 are used speed can be controlled by potentiometer. But now i want to controlled the speed by PWM Signal. once i tick on spindle enable (step pin 17 & dir pin 17) and (step port 1 & dir port 1) and also go to opened spindle setup #Tick on use spindle motor output and PWM control , then apply ok. Now am enter the command M03 the spindle start then i want to stop the spindle enter the command M05 via MDI.i cant stopped the spindle then tick on reset button i will stopped.kindly help me sir. I need spindle rotate CW/CCW and Speed controlled by PWM. Our board have 3 relays please tell me configuration sir., please.am wait for you valuable reply

@@vijaymecheng Please advise make / model of your board.

@@nsa1773 manufacturer # Tiny controls (India),model - PP-BOB2-V1 parallel port breakout board.. 10 days i was try to configuration for PWM signal but i cant do it. I think may be software problem? I download new one software then configuration no use.. Please help me sir. Am waiting your valuable reply

@@vijaymecheng Your board is different to mine, but I never connect any wiring from the bob to vfd until I am sure the board / configuration works as expected. This can be verified by obviously hearing the correct relays operating as expected and using a voltmeter to verify voltages and analogue output. Once you can verify the Bob is working then when connecting to your vfd it can then only be wiring errors / vfd settings for external control. It is important on my board to connect the 12-24volt supply and when everything is set correctly including the pulley spindle setting and then the 0-10v can be controlled. I notice on your board you must use the vfd 10v output connected to your Bob analogue input and your Bob analogue output to the vfd analogue in. What vfd are you using?

The board in this video does not require any special driver files only the generic parallel driver in mach3. I am not familiar with the red rare board I would look for a cnc forum or user group who may have come across the issue.

Other experts may no better than me....you can technically connect any port to any axis as long as long as your software / post processor can be modified to what is thinks is C to write is out a B etc. Or you can produce the G code file and then edit the file and change all reference to C axis to port B. As long as you have configured the correct tuning and steps etc for port B to match the C stepper this should work. I don’t think you can do any kind of slaving for this option.

Ryan, apologies I have been ill and have just noticed your question. Please ask any question and I will try to help.

@@nsa1773 well. I was hoping to have someone be able to look over my wiring up to the controller as well as potential help me with the configuration of the software once I install it again. Is this something you'd be able to help with potentially?

@@ryanwilson31 Please send me some drawings / pictures or links to picture etc and I will do my best to help / advise.

@@nsa1773 did you end up emailing me? I put my emails on you didn't have to put yours out there. This way I can send you pictures.

@@ryanwilson31 I haver not seen you email address please advise....

For stepper motors you would use the frequency mode (see J3) - The onboard potentiometer adjusts the frequency range band determined by the main frequency setting of J4. The output frequency / pulses to the stepper driver determine the speed of the motor in conjunction with the micro stepping settings. If you wish to control the speed of a dc motor - PWM mode is better )seeJ3j basically a fixed frequency is output and the on board potentiometer adjusts the mark space (on/off time of each pulse) this ratio effectively increases / decreases the average voltage to the motor. The board will not drive a dc motor directly an additional driver / mosfet and back emf protection would be required.

@@nsa1773 wow thanks for the info. So with pwm to a dc motor it effectively decreases the average voltage, thereby reducing torque at lower speed?

@@impactodelsurenterprise2440 There are lots of good websites and videos explaining PWM. Such as th-cam.com/video/GQLED3gmONg/w-d-xo.html etc

You need a 5v supply to power the board. This can be supplied via the USB socket via lead from your PC / USB power pack or an external 5V supply connected to the PCGND and PC5V terminals on the terminals block. The 12-24V supply is also required to control the input opto's / relay and onboard PWM. Both supplies are required and provided isolation between the circuits. Please see my other video at th-cam.com/video/auXuJQI3tO4/w-d-xo.html

@@nsa1773 awesome, much appreciated! thank you very much!

@@nsa1773 input pins not working if not has connect external 12 volt power. card need this too. 12 volt go to input pin optocouplers power.and relay if need.

Enrique - have you seen my other video which may give you some additional information th-cam.com/video/auXuJQI3tO4/w-d-xo.html

Thank you NSA for the reply and the video. I finally got my spindle running. 1) the 0-10V corresponds to pin 1 even though it is not marked on the board. Do not use the physically marked pin 1 on the board. 2) the spindle relay corresponds with pin 17. Again do not use the pin physically marked pin 17 on the board. Ensure jumper is in proper location

@@enriquemuro8210 I am glad you got your board working. Pin17 switches either the relay to turn the spindle on / off or is used for the B axis direction control depending on the setting of the on board jumper. You would only connect to pin 17 when using it with the B Axis otherwise you connect the relay contacts to the drive / spindle run connections. Pin 1 is the PWM signal from the system which controls the output voltage 0-10v - again you never connect to pin 1 - you connect the 0-10v +/- connections from the board to the analogue input of your spindle drive.

relay pin 17 and PWM pin 1

I would not run the unit at the top end of the specification 24VDC and would certainly not run it over this voltage as damage will result. You have mentioned a transformer but I assume it is a DC supply and not just AC. I would add a voltage regulator to your setup or just use an old general purpose mains voltage to DC plug pack (9V / 12V etc) .

You can use this module just for the speed control element and use two outputs of the arduino to replace the enable and direction push buttons, obviously. You can use two relays to give isolation or possibly connect the arduino outputs directly to the board. There are many sketches available for the arduino to control stepper and motors without using this additional board.

Thank you, best wishes.

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@@nsa1773 Thanks for your help

Should work with any driver which accepts inputs of at least 5V.

@@nsa1773 Thanks for your help

If you know your input power supply is good then it is probably the 5v voltage regulator (7805) on the board. Use a voltmeter and check the output of the regulator to determine if it functioninig correctly. All lights etc are referenced to this voltage regulator.

What driver are you using and what settings have you set and I will try and help.

@@nsa1773 hello! Sorry for keeping you waiting but its most likely a tb6600 driver also what do you mean by settings like the switches on the side?

@@imahol3 Make sure the oscillator is set to low frequency mode as shown in the video. Then ensure your TB6600 drivers dip switches are set to 800 micro stepping mode and the current setting is set to 1.5 A or 2A. Ensure the A,A+,B,B+ are connected correctly. I would use a 24v minimum 3A supply. These setting should allow the speed of the motor to be tested / controlled from low speed to approx 180 rpm. Start at low speed. Some motors will start to stall over a certain speed!

@@nsa1773 allright i have set all the settings how you said so the switches 4,5,1 are on and the rest off and i set it a to a low frequency mode now i just got to get the power supply thanks for the info!

There are many factors which determine this depending on what you are doing, what drive belt / ball screw pitch and what microstepping is set on yor driver. Your stepper is a 200 pulse per revoultion stepper. If your driver is set to 1/1 or full microstepping then using a frequency of 200hz the motor will rotate 60RPM at 1000Hz = 300RPM. If you have microstepping set to say 1/8 then you need 1600hz to give 60RPM and 8000hz will give 300rpm.

It is not clear what you are asking. Please give further information on what you are doing. There is no pin 0.0 settings. When you connect configure the drivers and mach3 correctly you can test using the keyboard keypad or test a move by entering G00 X1.6 in the MDI (Manual Data Input) screen. The motor should move and then be held / locked in position - the motor is always on once enabled and uses the holding current you set on the drive / dip switch setting.

How are you moving the axis. If you go into Mach3 /MDI Alt 2 menu and program a X move does the X drive operate. Either the wiring is wrong or the port setup pins are wrong or you have what you think is the Z motor connected to the X drive and vice versa.

This will work the same with virtually any stepper driver. Just check all connections carefully set your current limits and required microstepping mode.

Yes you can connect your DM542MA in place of the DM856.

@@nsa1773 ok

The unit will work with the TB6600 stepper driver. The unit give a 5v pulsed frequency output so no there is no requirement for any external resistors. The TB6600 is an older analogue drive type controller, I would recommend using a digital type drive such as DM556 etc which can be obtained for similar costs these days.

Hello dear, I would like to control 20 minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes interval micro steps run over a preiod of 15 days? can it possible to run of this controller?

@@NiherRD if you had a timer / device to interrupt (disable / enable) the enable signal at your required timer periods then it is possible but I think this would be easier using an arduino and programming it to your required stepper frequency and required timings.

May you help to suggest me the Arduino DM556 or TB 6600 driver programming code for when forward macro step interval run will complete to target end point on slider rail then back macro steps interval run to back the start position in the desire interval 20 minutes or 30 minutes etc run?

@@NiherRD I have not got the time currently to aid your project, but just search arduino stepper motors and you will find lots of helpful videos and websites with example code etc which can easily be adapted. Also look on the arduino web site.

For stepper motor use you would use the frequency mode. Selecting a frequency range to provide the speed and pulses required to suit your driver and micro-stepping settings. The PWM mode would generally be used to speed control a standard type dc motor or brightness control led's etc (additional driver / mosfet etc would be required).