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I like them for the quality (until recently) but I also don't mind the 10 seconds to look through the rest of the pack lmao

They've got three more Miku lairs to go lol. The "Summer" lair will have the Sol Ring and Commander Tower.

I'm not too salty about MH3 being modern only but I wish Assassin's Creed was standard with the massive addition it would bring to Outlaw decks.

@@chasetheswift I'm not too much into standard, but i know it's always cool we had some cards in other formats :) Thanks for the comment bro.

This was KMC soft. I find the Hards/Thicks make commander decks too hard to shuffle. I also haven't checked in a while but I can't find Gamegenic Thick Inners anywhere anymore lol. Hell I'm having a hard time finding Gamegenic inner sleeves in general. I switched to KMC Softs because you can get them for like $3 a pack when you buy 10 packs on amazon.

Yeah the Collector's Editions are all foil. So a box of curls lol.

@@chasetheswift that’s awesome 😎

Scalefast is the company handling the purchase and shipping for this WotC secret lair.

Ohhhhh gotcha. Thank you. Too many hobbies I have I suppose.

Sorry I have the Inland North accent! 😅

I assume they are the real draw of my videos

Worst starter kit maybe, MoM Aftermath takes the cake for worst set lmao.

why tho?

@@SeniorAdrian it's missing the Arena Codes that the last 5 or so kits had. The cool part of the Arena kits is that they came with two sets of codes to use on arena. So you could practice with the decks you just bought online and in paper. It's like a third of the product is missing. Mechanically the decks are really good but since the set isn't on arena, the didn't include codes.

@@chasetheswift Oh, ok, so the decks are good, it's just the codes. Yeah, that's really bad. I don't play the game anymore. I used to proxy everything. It's gotten way too expensive and ideological for me.

Currently no unfortunately.

Just re-watched. The fact that not every card in the deck is double sleeved. Like only the value is double sleeved. For my collection I put cards of value in inner sleeves for storage, so when it comes time to toss together a casual commander deck I just leave those value cards in the inner sleeves but I won't bother to put the chaff into inner sleeves.

Preach

For sure. I have yet to do a draft, so I wonder if it will be less lumpy. The only play booster sealed I had a good time with was Murders.

My heart goes out to your wallet

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Fair. I have a deck that has 120 cards and about 20 tokens I keep with it though so the bigger box is useful.

So out of 13 boxes, 4 have had sleeves that split. So definitely worse durability. Unlike other brands you know you've got a bad box right away. The shuffling feels so good though...

@@chasetheswift odds aren't horrible I guess, but definitely uncomfortable. I think I may give them a shot, if just to experience the shuffling.

@@gabrielloza4708 yeah I think I've had like 7 or 8 dragon shield sleeves fail out of like 30 boxes over two years. I'm probably not going to buy any more Curvs for a while. Might try them again in a year or so.

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I feel that

There's two starter decks in the box, so in theory two skeletons for commander decks but would require an additional 100-140 cards. I'd look at the pre-constructed Commander decks if you are a very new player and are not ready for deck building.

@chasetheswift awesome noted thanks for the reply dude! I'm looking into the rider of Rohan or elven council commander decks just to help get the feet wet any suggestions on which is better for newbie?

@@kingofthedead13 Rohan is simpler and more straight forward combat tricks. Elven Council is slower deck that's a little less forward but can be a lot of laughs in a group, similar to a board game. If you can find it for a decent price though the Food and Fellowship precon is one of the best that wizards has ever made.

@chasetheswift I found a Rohan deck for a pretty good price and if it's more straightforward most likely I go with that and im sorry what was the second deck you were recommending?

@@kingofthedead13 the Hobbit deck. Food and Fellowship. It's a monster and has a fun flavor.

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That's valid, the DS have a polyurethane feel where UG feel like vinyl.

Unfortunately the UG vs DS has been explained to death lol. Basically the UG Katanas feel slightly sturdier but the DS shuffle better. I've shuffled mine about 20 or so times. I assume after a few months they will be like sand paper lol.

I don't use it as much as I used to. I primary play commander so I tend to bring my tablet or a command zone playmat with me or if I am playing another format I need my note pad for life. The box fits about 6 commander decks so I'll use it if I'm taking like 5 decks with dice but won't need my tablet, command zone mat, or a note pad. I love it, it was my daily driver for about a year, and still use it occasionally when the situation fits.

@@chasetheswift In the case of a play mat, I intend to get Quiver's play mat carrying tube thing in addition to the Quiver carrying case. I'm leaning towards the bigger case over the Bolt at the moment.

@@Tae_Grixis hrmmm, I didn't know about their tube. Might have to get one and test is out.

@@chasetheswift It's called the "Quiver Time XL Orion Playmat Tube". It comes in black and red so far.

The second box of white ones I just recently bought has had two sleeves bust corners from shuffling.

I have done about 100 shuffles with a double sleeved deck using the regular inners and have had no issues. I've got 4 decks with the regular inners. I have a set of hard inners as well that I go into with this video th-cam.com/video/htyMie8ZonM/w-d-xo.html. I would say for commander decks stick to the regular inners as the hard inners make the 100 card decks too unmanageable. I do use the hards with my 60 card standard deck and they are nice.

@@chasetheswift so you say they don’t damage very fast or split

@ZachYoung2001 I've had no issues with the inners but I've only used them with the outer sleeves. The outer sleeves, I've heard about 3 out of 10 boxes that have had splitting issues.

@@chasetheswift I know some say if they split you’d just send a message to Heavy play and they send a new one.

I can understand why people are not doing them as much. The cost to cards ratio, Wizards being Wizards, and MTG views are just down.

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