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MSC22 - Panel 4 - Innovation to Meet Maritime Challenges
Moderator: Lt(N) Alicia PURITT, Royal Canadian Navy
- The Return of Marine Mines - Captain (N) Patrick THIEN, Director, Naval Surface & Mine Warfare Development Center, U.S. Navy
- What Can Autonomous Systems Do for You? - Mr. Neil ZERBE, CEO, Aerospace & Defense Industry Partners
- Cybersecurity in the Maritime Domain - Dr. Gary KESSLER, Principal Consultant, Fathom5
MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies.
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- The Return of Marine Mines - Captain (N) Patrick THIEN, Director, Naval Surface & Mine Warfare Development Center, U.S. Navy
- What Can Autonomous Systems Do for You? - Mr. Neil ZERBE, CEO, Aerospace & Defense Industry Partners
- Cybersecurity in the Maritime Domain - Dr. Gary KESSLER, Principal Consultant, Fathom5
MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies.
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Welcome Remarks - RAdm Bennett (RCN Ret'd) and VAdm Topshee, Commander RCN
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Maritime Security Challenges 2022 welcome remarks by Rear-Admiral (RCN ret'd) Jennifer Bennett, President of the Navy League of Canada, and Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee, Commander, Royal Canadian Navy. MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies. www.mscconference.com
MSC22 - Panel 6 - Five Eyes Perspectives on the Indo-Pacific
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Moderator: Mr. Jonathan BERKSHIRE-MILLER, Director, Indo-Pacific Program, MacDonald-Laurier Institute Featuring: - Rear Admiral Christopher SMITH, Deputy Commander, Royal Australian Navy - Rear-Admiral Steven WADDELL, Deputy Commander, Royal Canadian Navy - Commodore Melissa ROSS, Deputy Commander, Royal New Zealand Navy - Rear Admiral Anthony RIMINGTON, Assistant Chief of the Naval Staff, Roya...
MSC22 - Panel 3 - New Old Theatres: Strategic Focus on the Pacific Islands
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Moderator: Lieutenant(N) David MARRACK, Royal Canadian Navy - The Pacific Islands in National Maritime Strategies - Ms. Cleo PASKAL, Non-Resident Senior Fellow, Foundation for Defense of Democracies - The Pursuit of Political Influence - Dr. Tarcisius KABUTAULAKA, Associate Professor, University of Hawaii at Moana - The Strategic Role of Islands in the Indo-Pacific - Ms. Darshana BARUAH, Fellow...
MSC22 - Dr. Sal Mercogliano - Geopolitics, Security, and the Shipping Industry
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Dr. Sal Mercogliano, Associate Professor of History at Campbell University, discusses 'Geopolitics, Security, and the Shipping Industry' at Maritime Security Challenges 2022. MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies. www.mscconference.com
MSC22 - Panel 2 - Great Power Competition and the Spaces In Between
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Moderator: Rear-Admiral Brian SANTARPIA, Commander Maritime Forces Atlantic, Royal Canadian Navy - Prospects and Implications of Sino-Russian Cooperation - Dr. Michael PETERSEN, Director, Russia Maritime Studies Institute, US Naval War College - The Middle Powers From India to Southeast Asia - Dr. Aditi MALHOTRA, Editor-in-Chief, Canadian Army Journal - The Role of Middle Powers: Australia - Co...
MSC22 - Panel 5 - Building the Fleets of Tomorrow
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Moderator: Rear-Admiral Chris ROBINSON, Commander Maritime Forces Pacific, RCN - Canada’s Shipbuilding Campaign - Dr. Tim CHOI, University of Calgary - Naval Shipbuilding in Northeast Asia - Dr. Bernard COLE, Professor Emeritus, US National War College - Submarine Fleets in the Indo-Pacific - Dr. Collin KOH Swee Lean, Research Fellow, S. Rajaratnam School of Int’l Studies - Applying Incremental...
MSC22 - Welcome remarks - RAdm Pete Gumataotao, Director, DKI APCSS
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Maritime Security Challenges 2022 welcome remarks by Rear Admiral Pete Gumataotao, Director, Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies. MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies. www.mscconference.com
MSC22 - Panel 1 - Challenges to the Strategic Commons
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Moderator: Vice-Admiral Angus TOPSHEE, Commander Royal Canadian Navy - Regional Perspective on Rules and Norms - Ms. Elina NOOR, Director, Political-Security Affairs, Asia Society Policy Institute - The Challenge of Climate Change - Dr. David TITLEY, Founder, RV Weather, retired Professor and retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral - Trade Tensions and Global Decoupling: Strategic and Maritime Considera...
MSC22 - Canada's Harry DeWolf-Class Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships (AOPS)
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LCdr Ryan Bell (RCN) provides a look at Canada's newest warship and his experiences as executive officer of HMCS Harry DeWolf during the ships transit of the Northwest Passage and circumnavigation of North America in 2021. MSC22 was hosted by the Navy League of Canada in association with the Royal Canadian Navy and the Daniel K. Inouye Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies. www.mscconference...
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual Session 11 - Dr. Michael Petersen on the Russian Navy
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Maritime Security Challenges conference Virtual Session 11, originally presented on 10 August 2022, with Dr. Michael Petersen from the US Naval War College speaking on “How the Russia-Ukraine War is Changing Russia’s Maritime Warfare” Moderator: Dr. Jim Boutilier, founder of the MSC Series and ret'd Special Advisor to Commander, Maritime Forces Pacific. Special thanks to MSC partners the Navy L...
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual Session 10 - Dr. Brian Chao on US-China Maritime Competition
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Maritime Security Challenges conference Virtual Session 10, originally presented on 01 December 2021, with Dr. Brian Chao from the US Naval War College speaking on “History Rhymes: Lessons from the Past for Today’s US-China Maritime Competition” Moderator: Capt(N) Matthew Coates, Commander, Naval Personnel and Training Group, Royal Canadian Navy Special thanks to MSC partners the Navy League of...
MSC Conference - Virtual Session 9 - Carrier Strike Group 21 and Britain's Pacific Resurgence
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Maritime Security Challenges conference Virtual Session 9, originally presented on 13 October, 2021, featuring Dr. Alessio Patalano, Professor of War and Strategy at King's College London, speaking on the Royal Navy's CSG21 deployment to the Western Pacific. Moderator: Captain(N) Jeff Hutchinson, Base Commander, Canadian Forces Base Esquimalt. Special thanks to MSC partners the Navy League of C...
MSC Conference - Virtual Session 8 - Strategic Trends in the Pacific Islands Region
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Maritime Security Challenges conference Virtual Session 8, originally presented on 18 August, 2021, featuring Dr. Tarcisius Kabutaulaka, Associate Professor, Center for Pacific Island Studies, University of Hawaii, speaking on the Pacific Islands region. Moderator: Dr. Jim Boutilier, founder of the MSC Series and ret'd Special Advisor to Commander, Maritime Forces Pacific. Special thanks to MSC...
MSC Conference - Virtual Session 7 - China’s Distant-Water Fishing Fleet and South America
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Maritime Security Challenges conference Virtual Session 7, originally presented on 23 June, 2021, featuring Dr. Tabitha Mallory Founder and CEO of the China Ocean Institute and Affiliate Professor, Henry M. Jackson School of International Studies, University of Washington, speaking on China's distant-waters fishing fleets. Moderator: Captain(N) Blair Saltel, Chief of Staff, Maritime Forces Paci...
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - 6 - The Importance and Applications of AI to Naval Operations
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Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - 6 - The Importance and Applications of AI to Naval Operations
MSC Virtual Session 5 - Ms. Darshana Baruah on 'The Strategic Importance of Indian Ocean Islands'
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MSC Virtual Session 5 - Ms. Darshana Baruah on 'The Strategic Importance of Indian Ocean Islands'
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 4 - Middle Powers and Great Power Competition
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Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 4 - Middle Powers and Great Power Competition
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 3 - The Impacts of COVID-19 on the Maritime World
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Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 3 - The Impacts of COVID-19 on the Maritime World
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 2 - Mr. Greg Poling on The South China Sea dispute
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Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 2 - Mr. Greg Poling on The South China Sea dispute
Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 1 - Ms. Nadège Rolland on China's BRI
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Maritime Security Challenges Virtual - Session 1 - Ms. Nadège Rolland on China's BRI
MSC16 Panel: Game Changers - Technical Advancements in the Maritime Realm
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MSC16 Panel: Game Changers - Technical Advancements in the Maritime Realm
MSC16 Presentation: Maritime Militia, the Unofficial Maritime Agency
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MSC16 Presentation: Maritime Militia, the Unofficial Maritime Agency
MSC16 Panel: Challenges in Renewing Maritime Capabilities
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MSC16 Panel: Challenges in Renewing Maritime Capabilities
MSC16 Panel: Creating a Comprehensive Maritime Strategy
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MSC16 Panel: Creating a Comprehensive Maritime Strategy
MSC16 Panel: Challenges in Renewing Maritime Capabilities
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MSC16 Panel: Challenges in Renewing Maritime Capabilities
MSC16 Presentation - Where the Land Meets the Sea: A Geostrategic Overview of the Asia-Pacific
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MSC16 Presentation - Where the Land Meets the Sea: A Geostrategic Overview of the Asia-Pacific
How often do you need air conditioning in the high arctic?
Begging for applause is for glorified clerks & brainwashed idiots. Take your pick.
South Korea has vast options for not only the RCN but the other two services as well. Amphibious ships, IFV’s , fighter jets, missiles etc.
What a lot of people need to understand is that the Canadian coast guard arnt armed, so that particular capacity falls to the Canadian military. The AOPS are not warships, they are comparable to the US armed coast guard cutters. That's being said the main weapon of the AOPS isnt the gun, its the helicopter. The ship can carry a cyclone which has full ASW capability, including the ability to carry torpedo's and harpoon missiles. The Harry dewolf CAN do anti-ship warfare, it just does it in a way where the ship itself isnt directly threatened. Another strength of the ship is the sheer utility options of it. It has a crew compliment of 65, but accommodation for almost 90, it also has a huge vehicle bay and a 20T crane for launching landing boats. If necessary, the AOPS could be used as a type of landing ship. The modular payloads on the quarter decks are nuts. One of the modules is a towed array ASW sonar, and im sure there's other modules they they have plans for which would add other combat capability, but they don't want to spoil the surprise on. Hell, if they had a fuel tank as a modular payload, together with the massive crane it could probably refuel other ships at sea. It would also be really cool if they somehow were able to integrate one of those Mk 48 VLS modules from the Halifax class frigate as a modular payload on the quarter deck, but that's just a dream :P With those cranes at the back they could even get away with just one module and independently reload it at sea.
Is there now any regret in mothballing the largest ship building facility in the world in saint john creating jobs and building bigger ships and fleets for USA and other nato allies if tooling and skills Canada was once great at was preserved and not sent west to oil fields or south to usa
What a joke of a ship this thing is. It literally can not defend itself against modern threats. Making it 100% useless in a modern theater of war. Lets list the things the harry dewolf can defend against: 1. Speed boats. Oh that's it. Holly hell, going to be a real deterrent to Russia and china up there in the arctic. Not like they operate nuclear submarines and ships capable of attacking far beyond the horizon, way past the Harry Dewolfs radar range. Modern warfare will not wait around for Canada to catch up, and these things will be easily sunk in any sort of conflict, as the waters they are intended for have our adversaries in far more capable vessels. Also did the head of the Navy just say he wants to send our new "Ice Breakers" to freaking Africa? It never ceases to amaze me at how utterly stupid our government and military are.
The point I was trying to make is that the ship is poorly armed.
You would be correct. The only thing this ship is capable of defending against would be a hostile speed boat. It's a logistics vessel, they want to call a patrol vessel to not get Canadians angry at how much they spent on these things.
Smugglers intercepted was mentioned in the talk so it's right sized for patrolling. It would be silly to lob multi million dollar missiles at small smugglers 😂
@@b1laxson Ah yes because smugglers are what will threaten these ships in a time of war... If we ever go to war it will be, anti ship cruise missiles, torpedo's as well as air and water based drones that threaten it. In a time of war these things are giant coffins. As a logistics vessel with a part time in patrolling these aren't horrible. But as a war ship which we inevitably will use these for because Canada all ways makes due with what we have on hand. It's an absolute failure. Ask Russia how it's black fleet is doing, then ask how could this class of ship defend against a single one of the attacks that sunk their vessels. The answer is it can't.
@@b1laxson I wasn't aware we had a large smuggling issue in our northern waters. Oh ya we don't. The name is Arctic off shore patrol vessel. One more time. Arctic off shore patrol vessel. So since we don't have smuggling issues in our northern Arctic waters what are these patrolling for? Wouldn't be china or Russia, you know Navy's that have cruise missiles submarines and air forces. That are currently and will in the future make strategic plays in the Arctic? Nah why would we build ships to defend against actual threats. Instead we get these slow under armed logistics ships they call patrol vessels. Only in Canada would we build new Arctic ships then send them anywhere else but the Arctic. Classic Canadian forces behavior. No wonder no one joins. What a lost organization.
@@canadianguy1955 don't have a large smuggling problem? your joking rite ,, stop liveing online go out side and find out
What a joke this ship can't even defend it self from Somalia pirates.
Last I heard there are no Somali pirates in the Arctic.
@jenniferbardot8791 last I heard NATO is a globally operating alliance. In this briefing there is discussion utilizing it off African coasts.
@@Joe3pops Break out the Lee Enfield's
@@Joe3pops it's an icebreaker, which are slow. It's designed for as a domestic patrol vessel. Never has either been deployed to the Middle East. That's what frigates are for.
@@jenniferbardot8791 Speed boats are literally the only thing this ship can defend against. And what's it patrolling for? It's radar only sees out to 15nml's and 6000ft. So not hostile aircraft or smuggling by aircraft. And it certainly at this time is incapable of hunting submarines, so it clearly isn't for patrolling our waters for hostile actors or sneaky spy vessels. It only goes 17 knots at top speed meaning it gets out ran by most the ships in the north, so it's poor at that as well. It can also barely call itself an ice breaker with a horrible polar rating of 5, which happens to be less capability then the ship they based it off of. And only allows it to break first year ice up to 3.9ft thick. It's barely an ice breaker. This ship is a logistics vessel. I don't care what they call it. It's main role, and the vast majority of it's capability are in logistics. Like bringing supplies to northern communities. Doing scientific and technological research like mapping the ocean floor. Or bringing teams of researchers and staff to areas they wouldn't normally have access. It's role as a patrol boat is so clearly second nature to the overall design I'm surprised they kept the name. It certainly isn't a combat vessel, as its design has zero defensive capabilities to defend against any modern threat. It's piss poor at being a patrol ship. And it's good at bringing people and stuff around the arctic. It's a logistics ship they didn't want to name a logistics ship because they were worried Canadians might have a bit of a hard time with spending Billions on giant, slow, and unarmed ships for northern logistics work for northern communities that add zero GDP or production to Canada. While are navy's combat capability finds itself stuck with 1960's level armament in ships that can barely stay afloat.
Canada made a big strategic & economic mistake by gutting its own shipbuilding industry. It's not just military and coast guard projects; there are civilian shipbuilding needs too (like BC Ferries), that should should have the capability right here in Canada. The key is matching the shipbuilding capability to what we need, and avoiding some boom/bust cycle for the companies. Considering the long time scale of any project (literally decades top plan and build things), it should be clear what we need is long term planning of both aspects. There will always be those "taxpayers federation" types who take a "dollar store" approach to procurement, just wanting cheap foreign-made everything and mentally downgrading anything Canadian-built. They would gladly dismantle Canada's manufacturing and self-reliance to make Canada into nothing but a cheap resource supplier for others to profit from. However, this is shortsighted ideology (not to mention servile & demeaning). Being at the mercy of other nations for your own needs is a weakness not a strength; having crucial supply chains stretching world wide can endanger your citizens when there is a crisis. Obviously anything military is the most expensive type of project, but more could be saved by keeping very strong financial and ethical oversight in place, and not allowing decisions to go through "development hell".
My personal "we should choose this" for subs is so go in for some Canadianized version of the German type 212CD fuel cell AIP subs. Reasons are its extremely good stealth, the under-ice possibilities that are second only to nuclear, the possible multi-role uses, the NATO interoperability already factored in, and the domestic industrial side of it. The industrial arguments are that Canada has an advanced fuel cell industry already, so a partnership with the German ones is possible. plus Canada can also produce clean hydrogen from our abundant hydroelectric power (in NL, Quebec, BC) for the supply of such vessels' H2 needs on both coasts. That means that we would have more innate capability to maintain our own subs without having to reach across an ocean to do it. The South Korean AIP sub idea should get some consideration though; Canada can benefit there if we are smart about it. (Plus if we can negotiate a major repair capability here, it can act as a backup facility for South Korea if NK or China interfere with theirs.) Some people like to talk about getting nuclear subs, but I really think that would be much greater expense & complexity, and a much tougher sell politically. However, if we did go nuclear, maybe consider the French Baracuda? France would be a good partner for Canada, and might not demand as much political puppet strings as others.
there is a strategic opportunity for us to strengthen relations with s. korea. canada had been looking at establishing a 'mini' military base there and that should be looked at. in addition to submarines, we should look at their dokdo class light aircraft carrier. we could procure two of them for under USD 1 billion dollars. this will also align with our indo pacific strategic
You can state all the things you want, the Liberal government doesn’t care, they don’t want a properly equipped military, they have proven that….all we see is minimal equipment, not proper equipment given to the CAF….save your panels, the government doesn’t care
Thank You Prof.Sal very informative. and worrying going forward .The US needs her own ships, for sure , especially the support vessels.
Thoroughly enjoyed learning more about this monumental deployment on which my son was a crew member (on his very first sail!) Thanks so much for sharing.
Needs a main gun with greater range. Wouldn't hurt a SAM system and two more heavy MGs aft in two remote turrets. This is an expensive arctic vessel that deserves a better suite of self defense tools. If it's top speed is only 17 knots,(plus puts to sea w/o a chopper) perhaps it should be, "as prickly as a porcupine." I am.of the opinion this captive audience was coached to NOT bring up its pathetic armaments.
It's whole purpose is more of a constabulary role rather than sinking ships. It was not envisioned to be what you are describing.
243,000 kms of coastline to patrol. The Canadian picture of a patrol vessel should be different than say France's or Spain's idea of a patrol vessel. It's only logical. Ours should be more independent. Read, superior armaments of defence. Example a CIWS to augment what is presently sports. And more heavy machine guns that can be fired from below icy deck. I guess it doesn't bother you that someone's navy nephew might very well have to manhandle an M2 Browning at minus 35, eighty miles off Thule in December? There's a thing called technology. Crews should not expect to freeze themselves to a circa 1939 HMG pedestal mount! Warship, patrol vessel. Who cares what we call it. To ISIS, China or Russia, its a grey vessel target. Act accordingly. What I.purpose here is not over the top. And remember this fact: now retired Adm. Norman was not impressed by its meager armament suite either.
It's not a warship, it was built to assert Canada's claim on the north west passage and maintain a presence in the north, the only reason it even has a main gun is that it will be used in anti piracy and anti drug smuggler roles as a secondary mission, i read that one was sent down to Florida to help the U.S with drug smugglers. Mind you it makes no fucking sense to send a ice breaker to the south but it is what it is.
Too many bros think they know things after playing World of Warships.
@@SpruceMoose-iv8un When at war your enemy doesn't avoid shooting patrol and logistics ships because you say it's not a warship. Any and all targets doing work for our Navy will be fair game as has been the case in literally every single modern war since ww1. Or have you forgotten the fifty eight merchant vessels and 14 warships lost in ww2? Canada should not be making vessels with the idea that they will not have to defend themselves against hostile powers with capable modern equipment. You don't get to pick and choose what your enemy attacks or where, or when. If we ever do end up in a hot war against the likes of China, or Russia which is in the realm of possibility within this century. These ships will be useless, even in the northern patrol role. As it can't defend against a single modern ship, sub or air based threat.
I dispute your thesis of how great China and Russia are doing. They are both in significant decline.
Great speaker!
Thanks my uncle, I learn knew things from this MSC conference
Thanks for the organizing the wonderful webinar. Dr. Chao's comparison of the four previous continental navies (France, Imperial Germany and Russia and Soviet, plus imperial Japan) helps explaining PRC's naval policy and naval building program. It reminds me of President Dwight Eisenhower's reminding of "military-industrial complex". What kinds of roles does the PRC's military-industrial complex" play in the rise of the PLAN?
Excellent discussion and thank you for sharing knowledge across borders with organizing this event. As correctly said...IOR island nations are more over inward looking with the non-TS issues and great powers are more concerned about traditional security aspects and gap between these two areas need to be considered. Ms. Darshana how do you see the conference diplomacy as a tool to make a bridge between small island states and great powers to address above mention gap?
It's a pity those data are not show to many people. I attended this conference and it was a marvelous presentation by Dr. Daniel Pauly. Overfishing is a great problem that is not been addressed properly by the government and media.
Silver phoenix your answer is it wasn't planned by the RN to cut the Harriers and the light carriers early. There wasn't going to be much of a gap, but the budget cutter pencil pushers in the government swung the axe. HMS Ocean remains in service maintaining some carrier crews, while other carrier crews are training with the US Navy and Marines. It takes more than a year to train carrier crews properly, even to switch from one aircraft to another. China, Russia, India, Brazil, Italy, Spain, France, and the US operate aircraft carriers.
Another epic swizz. The MoD are the biggets wasters of taxpayers money ever. Of course all the defence crooks, sorry CON tractors (most of which are foreign) creaming off their share all this talk about offset costs and other bollocks I`m reading here is just words.
thx for info on what the Yanks offered. I can't find any info on it. Only what Woodward said but I can't remember him saying they offered a LPH?
The Ford is costing a lot more than that puny amount. Most likely you can double that amount for one, whereas the British are getting two for less.
No, Sandy Woodward said it best, if one of the British carriers was sunk, the British would need American sailors to operate the American ship. Different combat systems, sensors, and engine plant. And that is what the Americans offered, an Iwo Jima LPH, not a super carrier.
i dont think it was a super carrier at that time we had over 100 carriers i beileve ...they arent as big as they are now
I think it's because the UK wants to try to save cash and plug the deficit. We know that any big war would be fought within the NATO framework you see. If a situation such as the Falklands were to arise (we wouldn't need carriers this time but let's say we do for the sake of this debate) then the US would even be willing to lend us a super carrier Seriously man. You guys offered us one of your super carriers in 1982 We had to turn it down only because we had to make a move quickly
why dont the royal navy use the american LHDs for now? war can happen at any moment.....im only 14 and in 7 years ill already be in the army and id have itme to finish college and maybe become an officer....
The Queen Elizabeth ship will be launched in 2014 but will undergo stringent testing where she's expected to be fully operational by 2020. That shouldn't really come as a surprise since the F-35 needs to be fully completed and combat ready. 7 years isn't that far away my friend. Under current plans the Prince of Wales ship will also be full operational by 2020 although they will take a decision in 2015 as to the future of that carrier
If you have to ask how much a aircraft carrier costs, then you can't afford them. The question to ask is not how much they will cost, but whether you have the need for them to meet policy goals. Not so much for the now, but to meet policy goals for the next forty to fifty years.
I think you forgot to covert the dollars into sterlings. USA's latest and greatest only costs 57% more than our QE class. Looking at past military procurement. the QE class is bound to have cost overrun (maybe 20% plus)... However, i wasn't suggesting we buy a Ford Class SC. I was merely commenting on the cost-effectiveness of the QE Class carrier, in comparison to the Ford. With the money spent on QE, We can Buy Nimitz(£3.8bill) and be more effective, spending less money.
In terms of government spending power £5.9bil is almost £8.4bil ($14bill).... If you take into account past military programs that exceeded their budget, almost doubling by the time of completion. With the money we are spending we can get a Nimitz class supercarrier, with change to fill it up with jets and get with unbelievable global reach (nuclear powered and all), we wouldn't have to worry about the Falklands or any other British territories getting attacked
I think you'll find QE will have a shorter first cut to fully operational time than the Ford class by about 3 to 4 years.
Ford class costs about 3 times as much as a QE and not having a Reactor allows the British ships to visit more ports and countries.
She'll be in the water next year but not operational. Sea trials are in 2017, air wing in 2018 and militarily operational by 2020, if all goes well. According to what I've just read the Prince of Wales will be commissioned in 2020 too, dependent on SDSR 2015.
this British carriers look like a waste I heard form a british freiend that they will be ready in 2020 American super carriers are built quicker and hold more ships these ships look like the size of an American LHD helicopter/f35 carrier/because landing craft
Those ships are awesome
nice to see a ship that can rival the Nimitz I mean the Nimitz is a grate carrier but the queen Elizabeth is wider and has grater technology
With the delays and costs incurred due to the 2010 SDSR and the reversal of the decisions taken in the review the cost for the ships has risen to £7.2 billion.
we are one of the founding signatories of NATO, originally designed to fight the Warsaw Pact countries, although now the Warsaw Pact no longer exists NATO should be shut down and the billions of pounds redirected to the treasury.
Where are you getting this info from? the UK QE class carriers will cost the UK taxpayer £5.9 billion for BOTH ships, the US G.R.Ford class carriers cost a tad under $14 billion each!
The Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carrier costs almost the same as America's new Ford-Class Supercarrier.....where is all the money going? The amount of money we are spending on 1 Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carrier, we could buy 2 Nuclear powered Nimitz-Class Supercarriers
Can you put the vídeos of the other presentations? Thanks.
Shut up you moron.