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In the installer for DLSS Enabler, there's a screen that says "Select Components" and instead of using the default option ("Install as a version.dll file"), select "install as a dxgi.dll file". I think it might also work with "install as a winmm.dll file" too but I'm not sure... If you're using an AMD or Intel GPU/iGPU, then you also need to select "Enable support for AMD and Intel GPUs" I believe. Another thing to try is selecting "Install .reg files enabling/disabling driver signature checks" and double clicking the .reg file created in the games directory, which I did, but I'm not sure if that's important or not. I'm using an Nvidia 10 series GPU so I haven't tested AMD or Intel cards, but it says it should work.

@@immbananaman2029 that's what I thought too the lighting is really cool!! Love the rockets

ikr when I discovered this existed I was amazed that there were like no videos about it on TH-cam or people discussing it anywhere. When you download the EXE and install and open the program, it will prompt you to open "Dataset manager" and download a data pack. Download "Base data pack" and under "Gaia star catalogs (with level-of-detail)" download "Gaia DR3 default". There is many more data packs that are interesting that I have download for this video like "NEARGALCAT" for nearby galaxies and "Oort cloud" as well as "NASA Exoplanet Archive" for the exoplanets. Lots more in there too though, easy to download.

I guess not! To be fair to Nvidia, I am rendering at an extremely low resolution just to get 60fps but yes I'm trying to prove it's possible

both are probably good it's just space engine is realistic

@hiddenguy67 this program uses only real data while space engine procedurally generates objects there isn't data for so this program is a little more scientifically accurate

@thedudely1 you can add real gaia catalog in spacenegjne or set it to only use real objects

​@@thedudely1no the procedurally generated stuff is to fill the places where we have no data, otherwise there are hundreds of real celestial bodies in space engine

@@Ohms69 it's on Steam for free. When you download it from steam it'll ask for quake 2 files, but you can just select "use demo files" or something like that and it'll work

@@thedudely1 thanks for the quick reply my dude!!!

Probably frame generation mod, if the game supports it. There will be less artifacts and probably better latency. At least, that was my experience in Cyberpunk so far. I haven't compared them very thoroughly though so ymmv. Let me know if you find anything out!

Yes very good point! I did mention this briefly in the video, but that I kept it set to "vsync" to make sure there weren't also frame tearing artifacts in the video. If I'm playing an FPS game with frame gen I definitely turn it off because the tearing doesn't bother me if it happens at all and their is a slight improvement to latency. Definitely helps get it closer to native it's definitely better.

@@tenkai6664 short cut? for enabling lossless scaling?

yes I'm using Reflex, I haven't even tried without it tbh I don't even want to know how bad the latency is lol. Might have to try it out

that's a great explanation of it

@@thedudely1 Ayy, thx bro

yeah, that's why the devs said that if you want to reduce GPU usage, the recommended values are 90% for 1080, 75% for 1440 and 50% for 4k

@@thevoid11223 do you notice higher FPS using SGSR vs FSR 1 or are you using it for some other reason? I tested it and noticed that it had more pixelation than FSR or LS1 did but it did look sharp because of it.

yes very true. Plus running with XeSS 1.3 upscaling giving much better image quality than FSR 2 thanks to machine learning and all of the sudden I've got DLSS and DLSS FG on my old ass card 😎

yeah it's too close to my face I didn't wanna wake my roommates up. you're right that it was the morning. kind of sounds like ASMR because of it though 😅 I'll figure something out for the future

Honestly I would only use this in singeplayer, you’re gonna get more input latency with frame generation so you’d be putting yourself at a disadvantage beyond the possible ban risk , you never know

I get where you're coming from, I can't say for sure but I think it is safe to use in multiplayer games with anticheat. I have used it in many multiplayer games with anticheat (CS2, Halo Infinite, War Thunder) for a few hours and I haven't had any problems. From my understanding, lossless scaling might appear similar to OBS or some other recording software to a game given it works in a similar way for capturing frames. So yes I think it is safe to use although I can't say with 100% confidence, but as the other commenter said, if anything it puts you at a disadvantage, whether you care about that or not. I will say it would be very difficult to "accidentally" leave it applied because you need to open the app and click the "start" button every time you want to use LSFG, it does not have any kind of auto run or installer for any games.

To be fair, I'm exaggerating the effect by running at such a low frame rate in game. I'm doing this so that the artifacts are obvious even on TH-cam! So mission accomplished??

@@thedudely1 I think so, there's also this weird ghosting that is pretty obnoxious to me, idk, looks weird.

are you using LSFG 2.3 with the "performance" option enabled? they removed that option in LSFG 3 because the "resolution scale" option regains even more performance and doesn't have negative effects on visuals. Try setting the resolution scale in LSFG 3 to 50% and the performance should be even better than 2.3. Let me know!

that's an interesting question. I'm not sure if LSFG is a machine learning based approach like DLSS is or if it's more like FSR 3 in that way so it may not need specialized SIMD instructions. If they did utilize those instructions, my fear would be that it would prevent older GPUs from using this software as DP4a is not present on GPUs prior to the GTX 10 series I believe. I'm not sure when for AMD. Performance with the latest update and especially with the LSFG motion resolution scale turned down, the impact to performance is finally surprisingly minimal!

@@thedudely1 All I know is that LS is based on ML, whether they have moved from the fast general purpose neural network model to something different is beyond me. Currently it's running on GPU shaders, which results in a pretty steep (albeit better than previous versions) performance cost. You can turn down the motion interpolation quality down as you say, but I was wondering.. or should I say hoping we could find a way to lower the GPU cost via utilizing other aspects if possible. This shouldn't replace other versions of LS of course, but maybe a model specifically using more than shaders.

I appreciate the feedback

@@Mrzeseb13 no disappointment just interested

@thedudely1 i talk about rtx50 futur owner dw, i try too on my 4090 just for fun

@@sluvage9187 like running frame gen on a 2nd GPU while the other renders the game? I haven't but that's an interesting idea... I do have a 1060 I could put in my system with the 1080....

@thedudely1 ive done it, I have benchmarks (Ish) It kind of sparked a bunch of convos in the reddit group and my channel.

@@thedudely1 yes, the 1060 should at least be able to double your frames. On a baseline frame of 60 fps in-game, the card can generate 250 fps max. If yours has a Display port. No display port HDMI only = 120 fps max.

@@sluvage9187 yooo I'll check that video out sometime today that sounds very interesting

@@gnrtx-36969 that works great! It's FSR 1 scaling so no FSR 3 but I was considering making a video comparing the different upscalers in this app, like FSR. Would that be interesting?

@@DannyWilliamH 6090 gonna be generating entire games now isn't it Jensen

I need to try this on my $10,000 battlestation

@@sasagrcevic475 we don't "need" it but there's a desire for graphics to get better and frame rates to get higher simultaneously right now in the gaming industry with new GPUs and it's nearly impossible to get both due to slowing progress with hardware manufacturing. Admittedly, frame gen is kind of cheating/fake performance but Nvidia is leading the charge with marketing this tech so everyone is following along for better or for worse.

@@thedudely1 Yeah, but that is just gonna lead to "easy" way of doing things and advancement will stop. Gaming will become exclusive to certain groups of people then as games advance and hardware stagnate. Its bad for gamers in general. Developers are also not helping with badly optimized games on the other end. Companies will gravitate toward these fake frames and software solutions to sell you their junk products at high price. Its becoming snake oil at this point. Because it the end those 30 fps still feel like 30 fps even though it says 200. Its just different and lag will become more worse.

@@sasagrcevic475 I totally agree. Especially frustrating with inflated prices on RTX x060 class cards and garbage tier (relatively speaking) RTX x050 class cards. Like if progress is gonna slow down at least don't increase the prices. Commoditize

@@thedudely1 True, especially what you said about x060 class. It even seems that 5060 will have 8gb of vram and that is the real problem in 2025. Especially when there are cards like B580 12gb when it comes to 1080p. I know they are big company that wants to max profit but some things are just too much. Even 5070 will have 12gb of vram and I consider (as many gamers too) that card to be 2k card. They are just too greedy. Big problem is that they get away with these products. People still buy it for some reason. Market share says it all. In the end monopoly will only hurt consumers. So we are fucked in the long run. One more thing to mention. Same company that pushes RT agressively also wont let you have enough vram for it.

thank you!! I used OBS with NVENC, but it didn't work for me at first. It was only recording the game before frame gen even when set to "display capture" as the source. What worked for me was running both Lossless Scaling and OBS as administrator and then also setting the source in OBS to be "game capture" and selecting lossless scaling as the window to capture. I don't know if these settings matter, but I also have "capture cursor" "use anti-cheat compatibility hook" and "capture third party overlays (such as steam)" all checked and window match priority to "match title, otherwise find window of same executable". Let me know if that gets it working for you or if you need more help!! It took me a little bit to figure it out after googling it even

@thedudely1 Running both of them as adminstrator worked for me. Thanks!

​@@parijatpramanik1512glad to hear it!!

@@skewool I feel the same way but it's just so surprising. I do feel like certain really thin/fast objects do have bigger artifacts at 25% scale but that would also depend on the resolution you're running the game at/your monitors resolution. Probably a lot less noticeable at 25% of 4k than 25% of 1080p. I'm testing at 1440p. But yeah 100% resolution scale for LSFG is wasting GPU resources.

@thedudely1 Yea I'm also running at 1440p so maybe that's why I'm not seeing bad results. Even then 100% res scale is just pointless

@@matheusc972 exaaactly lol 😂

How can I buy this?

@@trickshotgamingtrickshotgaming it's on Steam it's called "Lossless Scaling" and it's $6 I believe. I bought it years ago and it's constantly been updated with new features ever since it started out as just a universal FSR 1 effect. Now it even has its own machine learning based spatial upscaler that surpasses FSR 1

Except the fact it isn’t built into hardware and trashy

@@SilverStallion.eSportsit’s better than nothing and works on pretty much anything

yes I believe that's the asynchronous time warp tech right? It is very similar the artifacts you're right. I do actually test that out in the video too later on as a parallel to Reflex 2. Very interesting stuff, I'm sure DLSS 4 will blow it and LSFG out of the water too. Fundamentally the same technologies though which makes it interesting to investigate

Probably a little bit but not too bad I bet. Mostly just don't want those kinds of artifacts to become normalized otherwise slow mo gameplay will be forever ruined lol. Considering Nvidia is trying to pass these frames off as real performance, it felt relevant to point out.

@@gamingfromjohnwayne true but it is fundamentally the same

I Play with an Controller, so my movement IS more stable. With 72 FPS to 144 i See so much artifacts... Still a far way to go

@@WizzDude I totally agree once you get to 60+ as a base frame rate the latency increase is not very noticeable and you get motion clarity on par with 120+ fps because the artifacts are minimal like you said. Finally brings HFR gaming within reach without needing to drop settings or resolution! Definitely my preferred way to play most games now if they're demanding at all

@@m.m.3753 with the latest update?

can you use dlss and LSFG at the same time? Whats the delay

​@@thedudely1sure

@@SweetLemonadeYT FG x3 and x4 don't increase latency more than x2 does, because they're not buffering more than 1 frame the same way regular frame gen is. They're simply generating more frames in between each real frame, so latency remains nearly identical to regular frame gen. That is, assuming the same base frame rate. I agree with you though for most games that I play, the input lag increase from using frame gen isn't worth it. Although, based on my testing with LSFG 3 it might be changing my mind for games like Cyberpunk that aren't multiplayer. LSFG 2 was too laggy for me and the latency trade off didn't feel worth it, but I was really impressed with the improvement to latency (and artifacts) that I observed in this video which was especially noticeable at 15 fps which was unplayable before.

i tried in delta force unacceptable as u said but maybe minecraft with mods would work ok haha

you have to lock the framerate of the game bro ...

@Mrzeseb13 I know bro, with locked fps on half of monitors hz, input lag very noticeable

@@SweetLemonadeYT yeah, frame gen is just a dumb tech btw, can't wait to see people buy rtx50

the optimal use is 60+ fps, 50 is do able while under that will get more wobble or artifact

True that Nvidia's DLSS 4 will definitely be better than what this one guy is able to make but they will have fundamentally the same flaws and limitations, which makes it interesting to check out. I assume DLSS 4 will be released with the RTX 5000 series of GPUs in the next month or two, given as it's the primary selling point of these GPUs.

Yes I believe it is one person and they go by "THS" and they're very low key about it it seems like. They commented on a video similar to this a few days ago giving away a few free keys and their channel has no profile picture with 9 subs 😂 super cool though

@@Pvydrow you read my mind! I had no idea they were releasing the next version it 2 days after I uploaded this video 😂 I'm planning on recording/uploading late tonight using the same scene in cyberpunk as well as CS2. My initial testing says LSFG 3 is similar in terms of visual artifacts to LSFG 2.3 but that the latency is noticeably better and that the performance is significantly better without the need for a performance mode. So I guess image quality is improved significantly by not needing to use the performance, which had even more artifacts before.

Just uploaded that video and it's a little longer than I planned 😅 but I compare every version of LSFG currently available in the app (1.1 vs 2.3 vs 2.3 perf mode vs 3.0) I hope it's what you were looking for!

It's still crap just worse it doesn't work like it should.i have it and tryed everything nothing compared to real fram gen.

I got 327 in 4k it was mess😅

@@gamingfromjohnwayne I had the same problem until I enabled Vysnc, which prevents your monitor from displaying only "fake frames" when it's generating more than the refresh rate. I noticed this too in my new video. Generating more frames than your monitors refresh rate makes it looks terrible and perform bad as it's skipping some real frames

ahh I see thank you for the correction. Is it confirmed for the 2000 series too though? I'm reading on their blog that it debuts on the 5000 series with support in the future for "other rtx GPUs". the way it's worded makes me think they may exclude the 2000 series, unless they have stated otherwise.

@thedudely1 afaik yes, there was a ✅ marks graph shown that states that every generation will get everything besides multi frame generation under the 5000 series and frame generation under the 4000 series

really?

@@Bloxenbie Yeah I just found in their DLSS 4 video they have that chart showing all DLSS features besides frame gen coming to all RTX GPUs. And then in the Reflex 2 video at the end they talk about it "coming to all RTX gamers" so I guess that means everyone eventually? Except Reflex 2 is exclusive to Blackwell in the short term apparently.

@@thedudely1 oh awsome, i thought most of dlss 4s features would be would be exclusive for the new 50 series cards. the ultra frame gen honestly seems pointless. if i can run cyberpunk at 1440p at around 100 fps on my 4080 with frame gen on already, then upgrading just seems unnecessary. especially when the input lag increases as well. and because the 50 series cards probably won’t have a big upgrade over the 40 series in terms of raw performance. frame generation would still be pointless if you only got 30 fps for example, no matter how many extra frames you generate

definitely not.

No and yes, cuz traditional raster rendering is coming to end now....

unlimited frames