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yeah it came during the net and its nearly impossible to see since the cast was hidden on net animation and the place of the trap is inside the bush (in the spot that rell W would end)

actually now that i rewatched it, it was hidden behind that zombie ward

​​@@MetroArcheroh shit ur right, i see the little cupcake animation when he gets trapped. But i think it does come out during the net i can see the animation of cait reaching out to put the trap down at the end of it and the -20 mana text. It just looked weird to me i think because viego channels his ult right as you put the trap down, and then is unstoppable

hob is like the standard option, where you can play agressively with the hob in lane (with ghost you can usually space the enemy adc), and also scales well since in late game 3 quick autos usually kills any target. First strike is for when either you dont really need hob to win lane or when the lane is just non interactive(farming lane, happens when you cant play for plates or play agresively, due to supp champ dif)

yeah, and also first strike has been kinda popular last patch, so people know how to play vs it (deny me FS procs) and therefore it makes it worse since i cant generate as much gold as i did before

its something that i still have to work on, but it is kinda hard to talk while keeping full focus on a game, which is usually necessary to win many more games

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yeaah unfortunately i didnt have anything to stack it on, and i missplayed macrowise after because i should still stay in fog as gp has lifesteal and will still try to splitpush

@@MetroArchercould’ve hit blast cones on the way there

pt representing!

thanks!

i was experimenting a bit with double adaptive rune, and im still unsure whether i should take it or not(the autos feel really slow and i cant tell the dmg difference), but i recomend to every1 else to take 1 adaptive 1 AS shard. For the item start: i do that because i want to get to my items ASAP as caitlyn scales really well with items. So even though dorans blade has the same stats, it doesnt build into any item, so im delaying my first item by 450 gold (or 270 gold if you sell dblade) which is not what i want at all. You can argue that having better stats early (with dblade) would be better to win lane and stuff, but the thing is: caitlyn doesnt really utilize hp stat that well, she doesnt need to tank anything at all, she has alot of range and alot of safety if you pilot her well so your extra hp isnt gonna change a whole lot anyways.

​@@MetroArcheralso, i really don't understand the atk speed boots thing you do. even tho AS is kind-of worse than building AD on Caitlyn it can't be that bad that you'd skip out on a 176% gold efficient item plus if you build it after one item in mid game I feel like the extra autos you dish out in skirmshes team fights and dragon fights can give so much extra value, from my experience late game the AS is negligible since you are already 2 tapping people anyways but being stronger in the mid game should be better no?

@@realpart well we have to look at what AS boots gives: more movement speed and attack speed. More movement speed is okay, but not really necessary for caitlyn (at most you need movement speed for fights, not at all times, thats why i run ghost on her). Attack speed isnt a good stat on Caitlyn, since riot did a nerf on her ages ago that nerfed her attack speed ratio, so she doesnt benefit as much from attack speed like other adcs, but they gave her a good baseline attack speed over the game. She even has over 1.00+ attack speed with just levels and no bonus attack speed, which doesnt happen with other adcs. So using that 800 gold that could have been spent on a crit cloak, or more ad, feels like im wasting a bit of gold, so i end up skipping it entirely, not to mention most fights you arent going to auto consistently, unless you are vs rly tanky frontline, and in that case yeah attack speed boots are good, but even then i prefer rushing LDR, because thats when you actually start shredding tanks

just look at op.gg, most sites dont understand what build order i do (because they only look at completed full items) the build is to buyin any order these 4 ad components: BF sword, pickaxe, serrated dirk, pickaxe (yes its 2x pickaxe) then at lvl 9 if you have already used 3x minion demat on ranged creeps, it will 1shot the casters for the rest of the game. why i do this?building normal items delays your purchase of ad, this way you get as much ad as possible early, which is really strong for caitlyn since she has really strong ad ratios. after the build is IE collector LDR/shieldbow/bt

@@MetroArcher wow thanks so much for such a quick indepth response! you should make full videos, i searched your name hoping i'd find videos or VoDs or sometimes people show up on those replay channels. your winrate and performance with that amount of games on cait is amazing, been looking out for good caits! keep up the great work man

it does more damage on headshots, which is what i value more. Damage on Q and ult isnt too different compared to ghostblade

@@MetroArcher will try it thanks!

can i ask how u use minion dema.?

3demat on ranged@@marekbeben7292

honestly id love to make videos explaining things, but im a complete newb to editing and stuff, and i cba doing it atm

Metro Archer aah, was watching your vodd on opgg since you’re the only one running first strike on ap Kai’sa. Do you think it’s better than dirk manamune nashors or situational?

@@cenkarson777 yeah, i think its better when played at a higher level, the other build(the dirk manamune nashors crown) is more of a fool proof build, since you get crown to save your ass at times, and if you miss your w's you are not completely useless as you can still do good damage with basic attacks(in the ap nuke build i run, you are almost fully reliant on hitting W's). I think my build is better because you dont have to be positioned to auto attack anyone, therefore you can run a fully glass cannon build, because if you are playing right, no1 should ever get to you (you outrange any1 in the game), and even if they do, you still have ult to save you. I also think this build is more skillful, as there is a clear counterplay(just dodge W's, and i have a downtime of 10+ secs) but also rewards good play(hitting w's at the right time). also this build is stronger than ever because of the recent buffs, and first strike is good coz in all stages of the game, you can look to burst/poke the enemy(your Q burst+W in early/mid game gives you more than 50 gold) and snowball to getting more items, as ap kai'sa is really broken with items (she uses the gold better than anyone else)

@@MetroArcher thanks for the long answer man, appreciate it. Do you think it is blind pickable? or would you say that something like soraka or warmogs sejuani counters the build by out sustaining/bodyblocking?

@@cenkarson777 well if they have 2-3 tanks or they have alot of healing, the build can suck, and mostly suffers in these situations, tho its still playable, as long as you are not behind, but it is much harder to make it work since your gameplan is heavily reduced

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