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Well said. I made a followup video and essentially said that you should do what’s comfortable and convenient. Don’t sweat it!

The TH-cam algorithms are a bit of a mystery. But glad you enjoyed the story. Character is a good way to describe her. 😁

That’s A cool story. I remember meeting people while I was growing up who had trained there, but I was much too young to appreciate them. And funny that your parents moved there after his insistence that they would not.

It’s been reliable to this point … now I have to wonder. Hey it’s a learning experience. And I will say the weather was terrible. There was a pretty good cross wind that likely affected the range. Not that I want to excuse it, just an observation. And I should have been smarter and charged for longer when I did stop. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Chuckle. And I’ll take it as a bit of an offhanded compliment

The math suggests otherwise. But, there are other factors, and certainly the value proposition on the whole can be debated.

Thank you. It’s available for hire. 😁

That is the one thing Tesla does well: the integrated and seamless charging. It routes you to chargers as needed, removing the complexity of that part

You’re barking up the wrong tree bub. I like my Tesla and admire the thought that went into making it work. But I’m not fan of that fool.

Fools might be a little strong. But your point is solid. And that path could be possible. Though it seems a long shot for now. Still, in other parts of the world, it seems to be taking off to a degree. At least in part due to the cost of gas in some places. So there’s hope in any case.

And I might add that most of us that own EVs currently are aware that we are helping shape whatever the future holds.

I see the entirety of the ev world as uncharted territory; and possibly it’s analogous to when Henry ford introduced his cars. I have to imagine that the understanding of these new fangled machines confused people. And with EVs, we’re still figuring it out. You’re right in what you say. And I mostly do the same with my car and really don’t worry about it. I just find it fascinating to read what people think/hear/repeat. And the research around it is intriguing.

How much dd you get from your EV trade ins.

I wound up selling to Carmax for $27,500. Details here. th-cam.com/video/rXBzAhN1-_8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xp-BzupDYlayiADt

That’s a good question and a general concern I have as well. I haven’t seen any studies to this point, but I’m continuing to look.

@@davestechstories8832 The physical capacity of the battery hasn't changed, just it's ability to hold a charge. I am not aware of any studies per se on this excellent question, but your battery has already been significantly degraded at this point. I think another way of looking at it is this: You should charge to the point where you will use your car. Most people don't commute 200+ miles/day and 80%+ of EV owners charge at home. If you're comfortable, set max range to around 225 miles to help wring out extra life from your battery. If you charge at home it doesn't really make any difference as your car is fully charged in the morning anyway.

If you set a destination, the car will route you to a supercharger and automatically precondition the the battery. If you choose not to select a destination (and thus have no supercharger on a route) and then stop at a supercharger, the car will accept a charge - but unless the conditions are ideal, it will charge slowly. And the computer will pop up a warning like “for fastest charging use online routing” which is basically reminding you to precondition the battery.

You don’t have to do anything manual, regardless.

New name eh? 😉

That is the … million dollar (sorry) question. We have lost our way to a large degree.

Ya. Good thought

They take like 30 min to charge…

And that is basically my point as well. What the heck?

Thank you. I do really like my Tesla. But I know that while the fuel costs may be lower, the total cost is not quite the same. I wanted to think about that rationally. 😁

What about resale value? Also batteries expire after 3 to 5 years with or with out use. They aslo have a set limit of charge discharge cycles. How much to replace. Most mechanics dont do electric. So u have to go to the dealers how much more istat than independent mechanic. I asume that mechanics that do work on teslas charge more. Not to mention tesla take far longer on parts. And am asuming that unless is a taxi the user will never use the vehicle enough to recoup the cost of the car, insurance, charge $/miles and resale value cos it all cost more to begin

The cost per mile for fuel itself is surprising. I did a separate video about that. Thankfully general maintenance is limited during the first 5 or so years of operation. But after that, you’re right. Those would be higher costs. And the battery itself is a whole other element. In general, the battery should easily last 10 years with decent charging habits. But of course there are exceptions. And the cost to replace it is … not worth it. And that’s generally why insurance is so high on these vehicles.

Excellent point. For me, I have found that the trips I typically take require short stops for charging and I use the time to use the restroom or get a snack. Things that I would do when driving an ICE vehicle. However, I did make one trip where the time was a factor and I had to stop more frequently (and for longer) than I would have liked. It was an interesting thing to do.

@@davestechstories8832 - some charge the car at home.

yes … that’s where 99% of my charging comes from

Take a few 3,000 mile trip and you might change your mind.I have 13 pre-1972 cars, they are my fun cars, but they only see cloudless, warm, sunny days...

I pretty much agree with that assessment. The future of real self driving is exciting.

@@michaelholliday100 I have a manual 1999 Honda Civic, a manual 2003 Toyota MR2, and a 1996 Mercedes E320 wagon. These cars don't have backup cameras, much less sensors, so my 2023 Tesla Model 3 is super fancy! I hope it lasts as long as my other cars.

Good to know. But in the moment, it just freaked me out. I think I maybe hit the accelerator, but I probably pulled the wheel too, which disengaged it.

@@davestechstories8832 I have a 2020 LR Model Y which was ordered with FSD. I have have had FSD since October of 2021 and 40,000 miles with FSD doing the all of the driving. The more that you use it the better it will get...

As I noted, I’m not ready to spend the money (either in full or as a subscription) right now. But… when the subscription ended yesterday, and it reverted to autopilot, I realized I missed some features. I can understand the allure of it and it was clever of Tesla to roll it out for a 30 day trial.

I’m just telling you about my experience. Maybe it is fine at times, but I had issues. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@davestechstories8832 It takes the individual car probably 1,000 and a few months, before it becomes really tuned in....

That I would believe. It was fun to try in any case. And when it progresses a bit more, I may try a month of paid subscription just to see what’s what.

@@davestechstories8832 So I visited my daughter in Eugene which is a 10 hour drive I do the whole trip using FSD and its a blessing especially when arriving in Eugene late at night and not knowing my way around FSD works like a charm

A. It was prepaid. They had no choice but to accept it. That’s the game of the mystery car. And B. I disagree that they are a scam. But you might have assumed that based on my content. I will concede there are many gaps in EV deployment, and perceptions of the cars, which the car companies could overcome if they put an effort into it. My two cents.

If you say so. The broad point is that we have evolved to the point where profitability is an option. And regardless, there was an inefficient bloatedness with the shuttle program.

Did I? Oops. I feel like the guy in office space who moved the decimal point. th-cam.com/video/3fGHaVn5rGo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nN-e_kJYxzUCeCqA

Yeah. The insurance is ridiculous on EVs. I only wanted to compare the cost of making the car go, and intentionally didn’t talk about cost of ownership in this video because comparisons are really hard.

@@davestechstories8832 We don't agree there. The insurance is not ridiculous. The insurance reflect the cost of crashes of EVs. The none.-repairability problem is on EV manufacturers, not insurers. I have no love for insurance, but here, why would the other drivers with repairable cars pay for crazy expensive to repair electric cars? ... But then, your intention of the video is kind of misleading... The purchase is another topic. But in the cost of operating the vehicle, just taking the energy and maintenance is useless.

My issue with insurance is more about the why? Why is it so much more expensive when there is less to break and maintenance is very little. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the rationale for the insurance companies, it just hurts EV owners. Your point about total cost of ownership is worthwhile for consideration and may be a good topic for a future video - if I can figure out how to compare apples to apples.

@@davestechstories8832 So you didn't read the first comment? EV having a tiny bump, and ev companies saying "it's not repairable" or "we need to change the battery pack for 20k"... Insurance companies don't decide when a car is repairable are not. They take note of it. The problem, and that's where EV owners don't seem to understand. Insurance companies adapt the premium it to the cost of a certain brand and vehicle type. Look at all the stories of a tiny scratch on the car bottom and EV companies saying it's totalled and not worth the repair. Insurance had to adapt the insurance because EV ARE NOT REPAIRABLE AS IT IS ! Insurances DON'T DECIDE THAT.

I did misread it a bit. 😵‍💫 But I still say a discussion about total cost of ownership is a good idea and certainly this would be A topic.

I intentionally avoided talking about total cost of ownership because it’s much more complicated.

That is what I pay per kWh to my electric company. So it should be all in cost.

Yup. It just struck me that people may have different experiences based on where they live and how they charge. So I figured it was worth delving into.

That’s a good point. I was really thinking in terms of cost of energy source.

If you’re on the road that is 100% true. At home, it’s pretty consistent and predictable. And about range, there is no absolute standard so you’re right that the listed range is “probably” 30% more than you can get when driving.

Yeah I decided not to go down a rabbit hole and bring in total cost of ownership. I really just wanted to see day to day how it worked out. And thanks for stopping by and your kind words. 😁

No they really don't. Both my EVs (2013 Nissan Leaf and 2018 Model 3) average 8k miles beyond the tire wear warranty. My Leaf's current set of Michelin fuel saver tires are pass for 150% of their mileage warranty. My F150 eats tires and brakes far worse than either of my EVs.

Correct. It was in my calculation but I don’t think I mentioned it on the video.

Cool legacy?

It is cool to think about!

Thank you! I enjoyed watching you drive on a part of the track we normally don’t see. …I played around with the trainz simulator at some point and it was enjoyable but much more work than I wanted to take on. Thanks for being persistent. And I’m always happy to see more. 😁

And you probably noticed my ridiculously rudimentary display of how the switches work. Lol.

How can I get in touch? You can find me at davesdisneyview@gmail.com