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its actually a bug they accidentally added i think it was more directed towards another bug that they fixed. from what i can tell they were trying to fix the fact that the ability would sometimes not work on enemies i would use the abilities and sometimes it wouldn't even do hit recognition which i found was very dumb even when they were right in front of me

They did make a post about distance and ragdolls, I'm hoping that will fix the issue. If not I'm gonna keep the video up after testing more.

As of the Hotfix earlier today as of writing this, the issue in the video with enemy mass blocking LoS has been patched.

@@abyssbeast yea he's basically the same as he was before the nerf you just have to move around a lot more now, anyways I'm just glad they fixed it😭 🙏

If built for heat beam(not AoE) it’ll do more dmg but run out of ammo very quickly and take a lot of investment. At higher levels and if you’re boosting dmg with frames, using either or won’t feel like much of a difference, so it comes down to personal preference.

I like being able to reposition enemies, it's a utlity/grouping tool more than a damage dealer which is being worked on by your 4th and hitting enemies with your weapons. Like I said it's personal preference but can give you more CC by ragdolling enemies and all.

this is warframe....practically all the time are things that wanna kill you xd.

you have 50-60 seconds of absolutely no kills whatsoever before you run out - if there is an entire 60 seconds where no enemies are spawning for you to get duration back from, you can probably just wait it out and recast because clearly theres no threat to deal with

It could save some mod slots but it's all just quality of life. I'd rather be able just jump and press 1 to have all enemies with no armor than group them up and mash 1 4 times (to activate and deactivate).

Hata-Satya does not work on the incarnon mode

@@wulfrum7627 _[ _*_nani intensifies_*_ ]_ are you certain? that sounds like very much a bug that needs to get disputed. especially if it's true as I hear that the crit is lower in incarnon mode.

at least the boltor is actually improved by its incarnon form

Finally, someone who looks at the broader picture. Just because it can explode an entire room does not mean it’s bad. I’m definitely putting together a status build for my incarnon soma.

@@nicholassementilli6127 speaking the truth, Latron and Lex basically you just use with Incarnon form even though they have great base modes too now. Now this week none of the incarnon forms delete rooms so I guess theyre not going to be meta. I'm having a very tough time deciding between the 3 guns this week.

@@glaive120 honestly think those weapons like Latron or Lex (and couple of others) seriously didn't need to be as strong as they are, if we compare them to the ones from WEEK1, no one had any issue with them at all, and that they were strong but NOT SO STRONG to make all weapons pointless...And imo, the Soma Incarnon's perfect because of that, should be how all incarnons oughta be imo. Soma Incarnon is actually pretty "meta", if we take things into account BEFORE the update. It only doesn't seem meta because SOME incarnons are just doing throwbacks before the AoE/ammo changes for no dang reason. it's silly cuz, TRUMNA, has to do x kills in order to build 1 ball'a'death, when sth like Latron only needs 2-3 headshots for 40 (!?!?!?) ball'a'deaths.

@@sivel7493 soma's incarnon would've been decent if it had more crit chance, status and had a working augment. But is had less cc than normal form, lower fire rate and performs worse than it should.

Why would they make the incarnon form for the normal soma 💀 That’s a literal waste of resources on their end when they could have simply just buffed the gun. People are upset because they took an og fan favorite weapon and gave it a terrible alternate fire mode. This isn’t even a matter of comparison between the soma and other incarnon upgrades. Compare it to something similar like the kohm. You can make the base kohm do more dps than this and that’s depressing.

burston is pretty nutty can't lie

Iirc it is base dam, before seration

@@nguyenhuyduc9151oh yeah i dont know why i didnt realize that it is just like all of the other incarnon buffs

It isnt even a worse kuva kohm, its just a worse soma

@@globgrundle just use the normal form with the "3x dmg after reload" and Hata Satya. It's already amazing. If people love the Felarx for its base form, then I don't see why Soma Prime cant be like so.

@SiVel I already know it, therefore it being just a worse soma on incarnon form lol. Honestly, just the status boostwas worth it and y crit damage riven still melts

@@globgrundle I might just be preaching what you already know but I just tested a BUNCH...and I'll be honest, FORGET HATA SATYA, just use Galvanized Scope instead and use the incarnon form too, it's actually not even that bad, in fact, I tested it A TON against the Boltor Prime, tried different evo upgrades and such. the TTK between the incarnon form of Boltor AND Soma Prime are super on par with each other. Soma Prime has more sustainability, has great accuracy at range but has like a SPLIT SECOND less TTK, VERY miniscule. I never liked Hata Satya anyway, it always felt like it was only good after like 100ish rounds xD. The Soma Prime Incarnon is on par with Boltor Prime Incarnon. I also used the 100+ overshield on bleed kill as a small added synergy (I use primed shred on both Boltor and Soma)

@@sivel7493 because it's just not exciting

Doesn't work on incarnon form

None of those mods work on them

@@mikhailmartinez1225 rip

Bio Lab in your Clan Dojo

I called it that due to the amount of 10 rank mods (Now including Archon Stretch) the 2 Zariman Arcanes (Can take a little while to farm if low on MR for standing per day), and primed sure footed for the exilus. Honestly putting more forma on to allow more energy on start of missions might be even better but yeah.

@@abyssbeast True.. But here at end game it's pretty reasonable :) .. Good build none the less..

That depends on if your frame can survive really. The weapon itself easily could still be doing "enough" damage due to it mostly ignoring armor with slash and viral procs.

Most of my playing before i use Loki anytime not prime , cuz its invisible and the most hidden warframe, using torid weapon , but the problem in 1 hour and 15 minutes in survival void torid is like useless 🤣🤣 and its game over , i think my build

@@tvclipsgames1338 Loki has the problem of being easy to kill by AoE and stuff like that even though hes invisible. If you want to do very long runs I recomend using Chroma as one of the tankiest frames. It also hase massive damage boost. Of course there are other options like Nidus, Inaros, Mesa and so on. As for torid. Torid on its own (without incarnon adapter) is nowhere near strong enough for that. Its a very old and "weak" weapon. Thats also a reason why its eligible for the adapter. But with adapter and build in this video you can easily go on for hours in survival.

Oh , i see 👍