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I can’t get off them. I tried.

Yes, I have a pair. Awesome, too.

@@djschaut hey are your bindings mounted dead center or a couple cm back? Thanks

@joedemaio1342 2cm back

@@djschaut Im new to dead center skiing and it felt weird and I’m considering moving them back 2cm. Is there a reason you went 2cm back? Does it still turn and balance well on rails?

@joedemaio1342 I experimented like you, with center mount, and 3 cm back. 2 cm back seems to be the right spot for me, and I’ve used that on several different pairs of skis. I think you’ll be fine. Center mount is too far forward for me.

Thanks. Tough question. There are 2 differences. The Edgeless demand you pay more attention on your commute to or from the park. But, they definitely feel more stable on metal. It’s hard to describe, but they give a sense of security when you land squarely on a tube or rail or even a box. If you’re carving on an icy jump into a cork, they may slip out. But if there’s some softness to the take-off, they’re fine. The feel on a rail grind is the main selling point. Ptex just feels totally different than steel on a tube or rail. I didn’t de-tune my regular BDOGS, and they grabbed and I went down hard. The Edgeless spoil you.

Also check out jb_smoove on instagram or me parkgot. Jb is also on the Edgeless. He’s better than me.

@@djschaut hmmmm interesting… so I literally daily drive the ARGs lmfaooo. Nobody believes that when I tell them lolol but it kind of sounds like the edgeless’ are like the ARG. Kind of more like a slide than an edged in turn. I’m sure they are unreal on rail but the regulars seem like a more all around ski. Are they both the same softness or is the edgeless softer?

@ViperFox_ I think they’re about the same flex, just edgeless.

Congratulations. You’ll like the solid feel on the rails. Your legs might get a little tired on the scraped-off snow. Just aim for where there’s 1” of fluff on top. And just side-slip any ice like you’re on a box.

@@djschaut appreciate your reply! Can’t wait to try them out and see, I’ll keep what you said in mind as well👊

Thanks

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Overall they’re pretty good.

I use them all-mountain, even to teach my daughter on greens. They’re sketch pretty much where normal skis would be sketch. That would be on icy or scraped off slopes. If you like buttering all the time and flat 360s, you’ll like them. If there is 1” to 2” of new snow, you’re good to go. I’m into my second season on mine. They are very forgiving on rails. I haven’t been on an edged ski since I bought them. Hope that helps.

Awesome good to know! Thanks for taking the time to reply 👍

​@djschaut so it's totally possible to use them as all mountains

@jacksonsnedigar7117 yes, totally. Yesterday was a pow day at Beaver Creek and I used them all day. See my new review.

You didn’t read it. It’s oldest person to grind a ski rail. Google Guinness and enter that sentence in the search tab.

@@djschaut shoot my bad