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Clara and Twelve: Toxic Love || Video Essay
Clara and Twelve. Perfect. Clever. Hilarious. Deadly. These could apply to either of them, and together they form the most epic and possibly the deadliest hybrid known to the world, while at the same time having of the most heart-breaking love/non-love stories in New Who.
In this video I will be exploring the complicated relationship of Clara and the Twelfth Doctor and their obsession with each other which has been the driving point of much of the emotional storyline in seasons 8-9. Why did Clara have to die? What does Heaven Sent mean? Why did the Doctor forget her?
Is this Doctor Who's idea of love?
Strap in, boys and girls, because this video is going to be intense.
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  • @DylanTT17
    @DylanTT17 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way I view their relationship is something beyond labels, like time lords themselves really. There’s aspects of this relationship that neither of the terms; platonic or romantic, capture.

  • @HugoYogurt
    @HugoYogurt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i ended up loving this duo so much, i do acknowledge it was toxic as hell but you love their dynamic so much you kinda ignore it

  • @bobtomlin6813
    @bobtomlin6813 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic ....... ❤❤❤😢

  • @AzureRadio
    @AzureRadio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's Canon that there is romantic love there to an extent, but that isn't the point. They LOVE each other. It doesn't matter HOW they love each other, they simply love each other as you love one who you simply cannot do without. Clara was the greatest companion for this reason, not my favorite companion, but golly gee she sure was the greatest.

  • @Foxy02016
    @Foxy02016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clara is an inspiration for Emma in Paralax, the snippy relationship between her and the Doctor mirrors me and Cal (the actor who plays Emma) very well, so we take that and run with it

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need a Clara

  • @hamnam7
    @hamnam7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come she could click her fingers and the tardis doors would close

  • @amandasnider2644
    @amandasnider2644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would describe Clara & 11&12's relationship kinda like two people who were married for decades but divorced but are still friends platonically. Theres such deep friendship and understanding of who each other are, trust, toxicity, codependency, emotional bonds after going through hell (divorce/couples counseling and hardships) . They are undeniably toxic and completely dependent of each other while at the same time their bond is absolutely beautiful. They've been metaphorically naked and vunerable with each other and trauma bonded. But they also support one another finding new loving relationships as in Melody and Danny.

  • @TheMotherOfBambi
    @TheMotherOfBambi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly watching their dynamic at a young age ruined me forever. Thank you moffat for making 15 year old me ship them despite the weird age difference. Now i am ruined forever /jk

  • @christopherbell3719
    @christopherbell3719 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @lordred9122
    @lordred9122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The difference between Clara and the doctor is that she thinks she could take the Tardis where the doctor would let her take it just to prove his point

  • @vanshanahan4950
    @vanshanahan4950 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked hell bent for the fact we still see how far the Doctor goes in grief. It's like his way of showing the time lords "You had your trick. Your fun... four and a half billion years to be exact. So let me show you my trick, and how inferior you Gallifreyans are." He proceeds to do what he wants, and he shows nothing can stop him. I also believe the question of the hybrid is answered. Neither one of them will destroy Galifrey but the the Doctor put them in their place due to Ashildr's inadvertent raven scheme. Basically I'm saying the two of them are the hybrid or at the very least, Ashildr.

  • @btecbradford5079
    @btecbradford5079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a umm friendship/situationship with a girl like 12 and clara and honestly it's so toxic, perfect together and it's great when together but brought out our worse tendencies and then it ended it broke me, I related to 12 sm when I watched it

  • @theshades5702
    @theshades5702 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is exceptional, your analysis was just brilliant

  • @katokianimation
    @katokianimation 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was beautiful. Thank you.

  • @alex-oh8bh
    @alex-oh8bh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What i perfectly remembered is how people hated Clara for her reaction on regeneration in twelve doctor but then i learned that Rose did almost same thing in the Tardisode to tenth doctor

  • @AhmadAli-uk3sh
    @AhmadAli-uk3sh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The hybrid is never meant to be explained btw, it is a myth built up that is used to parallel between thr doctor and the timelords of how far someone will go

  • @HolbrookStark
    @HolbrookStark ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video, it somehow both teaches me something and is soothing to watch. Probably my favorite doctor who video analysis I've seen in my 11 years as a fan

  • @Potato98765
    @Potato98765 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't like saying that Clara deserved to die and that the doctor and Clara got the ending they deserved. It just feels like saying the doctor isn't allowed to have a happy ending with his companions. Clara was arguably his closest companion and because he got close to her and she got close to him they deserve and sad and traumatic ending? I watch a show to escape the real world not to get hit in the face by it. Can't characters learn from their flaws and develop instead of their flaws being the end of them? You keep saying they got the ending they deserved but I disagree. Clara never became more cruel or harsh she just learned that not every scenario can be won by telling the truth. And all the doctor did was starting to care to much. Saying they were bad for eachother is like saying that the doctor isn't allowed to care and his companions are never allowed to grow with him. Clara sae the doctor save lives like it was nothing and she wanted to have that ability. The doctor started to love Clara and didn't want to lose her. Sure they were flawed but her mistake didn't have to be fatal. It could have been something else that showed them they need to change. Maybe they could have just retired together. Like what River and the doctor did. He could have lived out his regeneration and she could just be with him without all the opportunities to try and be the doctor. And he wouldn't miss anything because he has a time machine. Saying that her dying was the only way to end her ark feels so pessimistic. Its basically saying that people can't change and will always die the way they lived. Saying that the doctor forgetting was the only possible ending for them is like saying that love is a bad thing. If it becomes dangerous instead of trying to fix it you just give up because that's the only way to do it.

  • @Potato98765
    @Potato98765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imo the only thing keeping the doctor and Clara from being a romantic relationship is the lack of fysical attraction. The Clara was definitely attracted to 11 and that probably why she started traveling with him but when she changed that went away. But by then she had already built a bond with the doctor and that bond just grew stronger when the fysical aspect had gone out of the way. Their relationship became deeper than basic human instincts and that's when they started to become more like eachother. It could have developed into something romantic if they had more time with eachother which is shown by the unkown phrase that they wanted to say to eachother in their last episodes. First when Clara is about to die and the doctor wants to say something but Clara doesn't let him because she doesn't like the bad timing. And then again on Gallifrey after Clara finds out how long the doctor was trapped. I think the doctor and Clara were perfect for eachother its just that their relationship but the rest of the universe at risk because they would to anything for eachother.

  • @Potato98765
    @Potato98765 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way that the doctor and Clara talked with eachother and how they acted just showed how close they were. While Clara kept the doctor down to earth you never got the impression that she thought she was better than him. She just knew that he needed help sometimes just like everybody else in the universe. The negative effect they had on eachother was that they made eachother more like the other. Clara started to take more responsibility and bigger risks. When unit came looking for the doctor Clara took charge until he could arrive. When there was an unstoppable curse she tried to trick the person who made it. Clara looked up to the doctor and wanted to be like him which is what eventually led to her death. On the other hand the doctor started caring more. The dangerous thing about a powerful being caring about someone is that they become a threat if that person gets hurt. The doctor always did his best to save everyone but he never crossed any lines to bring someone back. He always just accepted their death even if he didn't like it. But with Clara he couldn't let go. He had allowed himself to get to close to her. He never said it but he loved her. It's not until he is standing at the end of time that he realized he had gone to far. He realized that even though they loved eachother they became to dangerous together. Clara became a danger to herself because she tried to do what he did without all his knowledge and the doctor became a threat to everyone because he would do anything to protect her. That's why one of them had to forget because if they both remembered they never would have stayed apart. Its a sad story about two people who are perfect for eachother but they can never be together.

  • @RalphWigg1
    @RalphWigg1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you, Jenna created a character, only roughly sketched by the script.

  • @minecraftsteve2504
    @minecraftsteve2504 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the piano ost used during 21:30?

  • @adammyers7383
    @adammyers7383 ปีที่แล้ว

    An underrated moment I feel is that before 12 shoots The General he asks what regeneration they’re on, which definitely causes me to question whether he would have shot them if they had no regenerations left. It’s just a nice moment to remind us that The Doctor is still there, he’s just not driving right now.

  • @MarkGuest-th8jm
    @MarkGuest-th8jm ปีที่แล้ว

    I was brought up on Tom Baker/Elisabeth Sladen & for years they were my favourite Tardis duo. But the chemistry between Coleman & Capaldi is amazing. I have met the amazing Jenna Coleman a few times. Not only is she the most beautiful girl in the world, she is a lovely person & amazing actress. Her performance on Stage in "Lemons,Lemons,Lemons" earlier this year was incredible. The Coleman/Capaldi double act is easily my favourite Tardis team now!

  • @hadesblackplays
    @hadesblackplays ปีที่แล้ว

    i know this essay is slightly old, but it appeared just a few days ago in my main youtube page. i loved it, i absolutely loved it but it broke me so much at the end :(

  • @novi0
    @novi0 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up with 9 and 10, and 1 grew on me eventually, but Clara and 12 very quickly became my absolute favorites. The heart-wrenching stories unfortunately parallel some things I've experienced in my own life which adds to the weight of it all.

  • @pigeonette
    @pigeonette ปีที่แล้ว

    I love LOVE the dynamic 12 and Clara had. I cried so much at their ending… They loved each other so deeply, not romantically, but in a way that’s difficult to define and that’s more than friendship.

  • @carteljameson8395
    @carteljameson8395 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Also, Moffat doesn't know who the Hybrid is" It's the Doctor and Clara. Thought it was obvious.

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven Moffat deliberately left it vague. He knew what the Hybrid was but hinted that it could be Ashildr and even gave a nod to the Paul McGann movie by including speculation about the Doctor being half human. The whole point was to let the audience figure it out on their own.

  • @Jgotmilk555
    @Jgotmilk555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I love Clara. She's my favorite companion. Twelve is my favorite doctor too. :)

  • @b2rdza10
    @b2rdza10 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU GET THEM!!! this video was incredibly well worded and thought out. you touched on so many feelings i have about these two. season nine is by far my favorite because of all of these factors (but i’m not thinking about the hybrid. we ignore the hybrid.)

  • @sheersternfeld1914
    @sheersternfeld1914 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completed watching the video 10 minutes ago, and I'm still crying. Their relationship is beautiful in a way that I cannot describe in words. It would just sound dull. They're just so... Complicated. And amazing. And beautiful. Clara is the only companion who ever truly became The Doctor's equal.

  • @arleney56
    @arleney56 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fantastic analysis, thank you! I got a bad first impression because I didn’t really like her with Eleven (he himself was not my favorite) but she ended up as one of my favorite companions. I loved the dynamic between Clara and Twelve so so much. And you articulated all the reasons why so well.

  • @supremeoverlorde2109
    @supremeoverlorde2109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Twelve and Clara had such a fascinating relationship, but I never liked her ending. Imo her running off with her own Tardis and companion undermines the tragedy of her story. The whole point of Face the Raven, at least from my perspective, was that Clara was a human being who tried to be the Doctor, and it killed her. It was a deeply sad but fitting ending from someone who had become so detached from normal life and wanted to believe she could be someone more than she actually was. Clara was a clever and resourceful and commanding young woman, but I don't subscribe to the idea that she was truly the Doctor's equal. No human could be, and she was forced to learn that lesson the hard way in Face the Raven. The idea that Moffat undermined that and made her immortal in the end so she COULD essentially be his equal irked me.

  • @acanwithnobrand
    @acanwithnobrand ปีที่แล้ว

    and then... twice upon a time happened

  • @cardonull1465
    @cardonull1465 ปีที่แล้ว

    the existence of the hybrid (it being clara and the doctor’s friendship that proves to be disastrous for the universe) upholds everything you’ve said in this essay and is very thematically resonant. so i like hell bent a lot.

    • @cardonull1465
      @cardonull1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      also its not a mystery what the hybrid is lmao. The doctor at first thought it was Ashildr but then ashildr reveals that missy brought Clara and the doctor together to serve as a chaotic force (ie: the hybrid). its pretty clear cut

  • @JohnFromAccounting
    @JohnFromAccounting ปีที่แล้ว

    The Doctor and Clara had a deep love for each other that was fuelled by the other one. The more they loved each other, the more unhinged and reckless they became. Clara acta the way she does for the series 8 finale because she didn't get the outcome she wanted. The Doctor acts the way he does in the series 9 finale because he didn't get the outcome he wanted. It's not right to say there is no romance. That is definitely part of the relationship. What makes Clara different to his other companions is that he never let the obsession spiral out of control before her. If Rose didn't get trapped in another dimension, perhaps that relationship would have gone out of control as well.

  • @neelyohara88
    @neelyohara88 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙄

  • @callum5449
    @callum5449 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Danny died. That was the last human part of clara and she started to become better.

  • @PolinaEgorova-t4v
    @PolinaEgorova-t4v ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow unexpected text in Russian at 3:06 /After I saw the name of this channel/ Oh I see why it's in Russian Well, hello there 😂

    • @herrengelsful
      @herrengelsful ปีที่แล้ว

      У нас есть очень прикольные видео по ДК на канале чятик кто кстати ;)

  • @anomalous8004
    @anomalous8004 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMO the Twelfth + Clara era of the show is the deeper and more fully realized version of the Tenth + Martha/Donna. Capaldi and Coleman had perfect chemistry for Moffat's style of rapid fire dialogue, and Clara's autonomy, confidence, and overall charm led to her downfall due to her depression, recklessness and hubris in the end. No companion comes close to her arc in new Who, fuck Rose.

  • @ninino86
    @ninino86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! For finally pointing out Danny's faults. I sometimes felt like Im going mad since nobody else seems to voice that Danny was controlling. He made up his mind about the Doctor from the first time he met him and never gave him a chance to prove him wrong, to the point where Clara felt she had to lie about spending time with him. He always bitched and whined about everything about Clara that he didnt like, and honestly her best friend. And I felt that he mostly whined about something is most all scenes he was in. He was right and whatever Clara was doing that didnt fit was wrong. I mean maybe he was right some of the time, but the way he put it out there was always so condecending and grating. I was waiting for him to warm up and actually try to get to know the doctor, and atleast give him a chance, since he was such a big part of Claras life. But he never did, never gave that chance, and then he died off screen. What was the point?.. I feel like he never gave Clara a chance, a chance to be who she was. He liked certain aspects of her, and the rest he tried to file away. In the end DDanny Pink did not get enough character-development. I needed and wanted to see something more of Danny, that the fact that he hated generals, amd had a painful past. Ps. I liked Danny better in "last christmas"

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frankly, I'm on Danny's side. First of all, he was the only boyfriend who was neither impressed nor intimidated by the Doctor's presence. Unlike Mickey and Rory, he never struck me as the jealous type, just a guy who wanted his girlfriend to be straight with him, which is a perfectly reasonable request. All strong relationships are built on honesty and that's all Danny ever asked of Clara. As much as I love Clara, her reluctance to be open and honest was causing the issues in their relationship, something she even admitted in in the finale. Second, Peter Capaldi played the Doctor as a sociopath. Why would any caring boyfriend want his girlfriend to spend time with the guy? You can take jealousy out of the equation entirely because Capaldi played the Doctor as borderline villainous. I have the context of watching his sociopathy during events that Danny didn't witness - for example, the complete lack of remorse in the line "he was dead already, I was saving us" which would have William Hartnell, Colin Baker and even Sylvester McCoy, arguably the darkest Classic Doctor, cringing with disgust - so frankly, I think Danny's a far better judge of character than people give him credit for. Hell, he's a better judge of character than the WRITERS gave him credit for because they didn't intend for Peter Capaldi to come across as being an outright sociopath. Sure, Danny pegged the Doctor as soon as he saw him but what people refuse to acknowledge is that he was RIGHT. More right than the writers intended because of Peter Capaldi's shortcomings as an actor. An example of this is when he intentionally prolonged Clara's pain in Dark Water in a sick test to "See how far you would go", then had the fucking audacity to go on a self-righteous rant about loyalty after he betrayed Clara's trust TWICE (Deep Breath and Kill The Moon) without apologising either time. Capaldi knew what was going to happen - he was ready for it - and he still had to rub it in and assert his deluded sense of moral superiority. If he'd delivered "You let me down" quietly, that scene would have a completely different impact and if he'd said "Cut out the whining" to HIMSELF, who was the one who actually did all the whining in that scene, it would have stopped the Doctor from looking like a sociopathic shitbag who cared more about feeling morally superior than his best friend's emotional state.

  • @God-xd1wr
    @God-xd1wr ปีที่แล้ว

    The climax of Doctor Who finales is when there’s nothing left to do, when the only way to save everyone, the last thing you can give is yourself. Sometimes, that sort of ending appears in earlier episodes, and the solution is that someone else wrestles the Doctor aside and takes the bullet themself. But in a true finale, the Doctors final act is taking that bullet to save someone else. Clara spent all her time trying to one up and eventually become The Doctor, but the moment she truly became The Doctor wasn’t her goodness, it wasn’t her cruelty, it was her sacrifice.

  • @ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
    @ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind ปีที่แล้ว

    10:55 love does not have to be romantic. It is our human nature to have difficulties understanding love. We always associate love with physical affection. Clara and the Doctor clearly portray longing for a physical connection but their relationship transcends these base instincts (which are often forced to make for cheap, high viewership TV). *They perfectly portray the greatest possible virtue we, as a species, developed* : *_Unconditional love_* .

  • @jakequaza3567
    @jakequaza3567 ปีที่แล้ว

    The doctor says he became the hybrid. Clara and him are the hybrid.

  • @ErisRising
    @ErisRising ปีที่แล้ว

    That was absolutely lovely. I liked Clara as a companion, but didn't truly appreciate her as a character until Capaldi came along for what I think is the most remarkable and heartfelt Doctor/companion story arc in the show's history. You did a fantastic job of putting into words so many of my own thoughts on their run together.

  • @fictionalortrue541
    @fictionalortrue541 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Doctor: A man with two hearts. The Impossible girl: A woman without a pulse In the end, Clara did become her own version of the Doctor, complete with her own TARDIS and an immortal companion.

  • @MrRjhyt
    @MrRjhyt ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the interactions between them. Superficially insulting and offensive, the care and compassion beneath hides their kindness in faux-cruelty. For me, it felt very scottish, trading insults you could only do with a true friend.

  • @guzmanmaria
    @guzmanmaria ปีที่แล้ว

    They are my favorite pair and this essay is so on point, they told each other they loved the other all the time but without actually saying it.

  • @theesweatydrummer
    @theesweatydrummer ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the character development and chemistry between these two. (Bill does a great job of helping re-ground him too).