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LEDA – Popular & Fast Selling Suburb - Perth, Western Australia
In this video we walk around the suburb of Leda in Perth, Western Australia.
This southern suburb of Perth in Western Australia consistently ranks as one of the top selling suburbs in Perth. It is a fast selling suburb that also ranks high for being a great suburb for investors as well as being one of the most affordable suburbs in Perth.
Leda is a quiet suburb that is situated close to all major amenities such as public transport, major shopping areas, Rockingham General Hospital, as well as being only a 10 minute drive from the beach.
#perth #westernaustralia #property #investment #realestate
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MIDLAND - Love it or Hate it? Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Midland in Perth, Western Australia. This is a suburb people either love or hate. Unfortunately it does have a reputation for being one of the rougher suburbs in Perth with a high crime rate. However, as we walk around Midland you will see that the suburb is outgrowing its bad reputation and is developing into a good suburb. #investment #realestate #pr...
APARTMENT Developments in Perth, Western Australia?
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Would you buy an apartment off-the-plan in Perth, Western Australia? In this video we talk about some of the apartment buildings that are either under-construction or recently finished. We let you know where they are and how much it costs for an entry level apartment. As we talk about the apartment developments, we walk around the suburb of Burswood as there is a high concentration of apartment...
BURNS BEACH - From Beach SHACKS to Beach MANSIONS - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Burns Beach in Perth, Western Australia. Burns Beach was once known for its beach shacks but is now better known for its beach mansions. Located on the coast but also close to all amenities, this suburb offers a great coastal lifestyle but it doesn't come cheap. #investment #realestate #property #westernaustralia #perth
The DIFFERENT Living EXPERIENCES in BELLEVUE - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we take you through the suburb of Bellevue in Perth, Western Australia. Bellevue has a rural feel with established homes overlooking bushland as well as new housing estates being established. Bellevue is close enough to the city for a daily commute, but it also offers a laidback lifestyle that’s close to all amenities. #perth #westernaustralia #property #investment #realestate
TOP 10 Suburbs in Perth for THEFT - Western Australia
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In this video we let you know which suburbs make the top 10 for theft in Perth, Western Australia. This information was from a police report on the number of reported thefts for the 2023/24 financial year (01 July 2023 to 30 June 2024). As we film this video we walk around the suburb that was ranked number 3 for thefts in Perth, Western Australia. #investment #realestate #westernaustralia #pert...
HOCKING - Quality Houses & Great Location - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Hocking in Perth, Western Australia. This is a northern suburb of Perth and is family friendly with lots of parks and close to all amenities. There is a range of housing available to suit most budgets. The suburb also has a wide choice of block sizes with the older homes on larger blocks. #investment #realestate #property #perth #westernaustralia
Perth Suburbs with the MOST Internet SEARCHES - Western Australia
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In this video we talk about the suburbs with the most internet searches on www.reiwa.com.au (Real Estate Institute of Western Australia). As we talk about the suburbs everyone's looking for on the internet, we walk around the most popular suburb for searches. #investment #suburbs #realestate #property #perth #westernaustralia
RIVERVALE - Location, Location, Location - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Rivervale in Perth, Western Australia. This suburb is ideally located on the Swan River and close to Perth city. Rivervale is close to all amenities as well as major arterial roads. There is a variety of housing available to suit most budgets. #investment #suburbs #realestate #australianproperty #property #perth #westernaustralia
METEORIC Price Rise of PERTH Suburbs - Western Australia
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In this video we talk about how the prices of properties in Perth, Western Australia have risen high and fast. We also talk about some of the suburbs that have had a price drop. At the end of the video we let you know what Perth suburbs have had the highest price increase. This video was filmed walking along the Swan River in Woodbridge. #investment #suburbs #realestate #property #perth #wester...
What are the FASTEST Selling Suburbs in Perth, Western Australia?
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In this video we let you know which suburbs in Perth, Western Australia are the fastest selling - all selling within 6 days of listing. As we talk about the suburbs and give you some information on them we are walking around the historic suburb of Guildford. #investment #suburbs #realestate #australianproperty #property #westernaustralia #perth
SWANBOURNE - More Than Just a Nudist Beach - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Swanbourne in Perth, Western Australia. This suburb is well known for being home to a nudist beach but there is so much more to it than that. Divided in two by West Coast Hwy, this suburb has two distinctive sides to it. With very few houses or units for sale here, it is a very popular suburb to live in. #investment #realestate #suburbs #property #west...
TOP SUBURBS for Rental Yields in Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we talk about the best suburbs in Perth, Western Australia for investing. This video will be of interest to anyone looking to buy a rental property or if you're just interested in which suburbs offer the best investment as it lets you know which suburbs offer the best rental yield. As we talk about the best suburbs for rental yield we walk along the coastal walk in Burns Beach, We...
BELDON - So POPULAR Houses for Sale are RARE - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Beldon in Perth, Western Australia. While this is an older suburb it is extremely popular and there were no properties for sale at the time of filming - everything was either Sold or Under Contract. This suburb is in a great location as it is close to the beach, public transport and major facilities without the large price tag. #investment #realestate ...
KEWDALE - Good Value Close to the City - Perth, Western Australia
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In this video we walk around the suburb of Kewdale in Perth, Western Australia. This suburb is close to Perth city as well as being close to all amenities. While Kewdale is known as an industrial area, when you walk around the residential area you would think you were in a different suburb. It's an interesting suburb that is still good value for money. #investment #suburbs #realestate #australi...
How Much Do You Need to Earn to Buy a House in Australia?
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How Much Do You Need to Earn to Buy a House in Australia?
COTTESLOE - 2nd MOST Expensive Suburb in Perth, Western Australia
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COTTESLOE - 2nd MOST Expensive Suburb in Perth, Western Australia
MEADOW SPRINGS - Affordable Quality - Western Australia
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MEADOW SPRINGS - Affordable Quality - Western Australia
HEATHRIDGE - Understated & Affordable - Perth, Western Australia
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HEATHRIDGE - Understated & Affordable - Perth, Western Australia
TOP 3 Fremantle Tourist Attractions - Perth, Western Australia
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TOP 3 Fremantle Tourist Attractions - Perth, Western Australia
ASHFIELD - Tiny Suburb with HUGE Potential - Perth, Western Australia
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ASHFIELD - Tiny Suburb with HUGE Potential - Perth, Western Australia
MARMION - Luxury, Lifestyle & Location - Perth, Western Australia
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MARMION - Luxury, Lifestyle & Location - Perth, Western Australia
TOP 3 Perth Attractions - Western Australia
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TOP 3 Perth Attractions - Western Australia
SILVER SANDS - Small Suburb but Large Lifestyle - Mandurah, Western Australia
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SILVER SANDS - Small Suburb but Large Lifestyle - Mandurah, Western Australia
North Fremantle - A Suburb Where EVERYONE is Close to the River - Perth, Western Australia
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North Fremantle - A Suburb Where EVERYONE is Close to the River - Perth, Western Australia
GREENFIELDS - Not a 'Cookie Cutter' Suburb - Perth, Western Australia
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GREENFIELDS - Not a 'Cookie Cutter' Suburb - Perth, Western Australia
FLOREAT - Close to the CITY & BEACH - Perth, Western Australia
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FLOREAT - Close to the CITY & BEACH - Perth, Western Australia
LOCKRIDGE - The Suburb GENTRIFICATION Forgot - Perth, Western Australia
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LOCKRIDGE - The Suburb GENTRIFICATION Forgot - Perth, Western Australia
Perth's 5 Most Expensive & 5 Cheapest Suburbs - Western Australia
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Perth's 5 Most Expensive & 5 Cheapest Suburbs - Western Australia
CARINE - Where You Can STILL Find Neighbourhood Charm - Perth, Western Australia
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CARINE - Where You Can STILL Find Neighbourhood Charm - Perth, Western Australia

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  • @jimmybrad156
    @jimmybrad156 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Speech audio is missing on left channel; only audible on right channel.

  • @3542macca
    @3542macca 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Waited for Kwinana to be on the list,but it didn't get mentioned 😂

  • @richardhood7707
    @richardhood7707 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ICE CREAM!!

  • @icebaby6714
    @icebaby6714 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great suburb, not far from Rockingham. 👍

  • @daze134
    @daze134 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Based on Median price shared...it's a steal

  • @Keep_calm_and_slave_on
    @Keep_calm_and_slave_on วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice area, lots of trees

  • @jainandjerry
    @jainandjerry วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep up the great work. Your videos are really informative. I have a question: What are the safest areas for a single female to live in Perth?

  • @weesee7178
    @weesee7178 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always interesting to hear what blow-ins have to say, without out any local knowledge. Personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Ivor and Susan has anyone ever bought to your attention the left channel only audio commentary on all of your recent videos? Perhaps you could add the audio in post so we don't have to hear the wheezing and loss of your trains of thought. Come to the golden triangle and I will share your videos with the locals.

  • @anpexroblox3371
    @anpexroblox3371 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very plain to see this suburb

  • @ramshoja1455
    @ramshoja1455 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think one the reason is so far Leda is greenest suburb in Perth to me .absolutely beautiful .l like that land opposite shopping centre.

    • @booogil
      @booogil วันที่ผ่านมา

      until you see the neighbours. Cheap price for a reason.

    • @ramshoja1455
      @ramshoja1455 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@booogil yes agree after locating neighbours making cheap .and also vlogger comment important.he and his mrs are the best.🙏

  • @jimmybrad156
    @jimmybrad156 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sure we can all trust landgate to work for citizens, especially since it was sold off 🙃

  • @ericenglund9901
    @ericenglund9901 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be useful to have separate statistics for both residential theft and that for shopping centres/ businesses. Per capita stats would also be good given the very different size of some suburbs.

  • @KainSwiss
    @KainSwiss 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was interesting to watch. What would be good, would be for you to cover the vandalism and stealing going on around newly built houses in Perth construction. So many areas i've seen windows put through within Kwinana Village. Newly built houses being broken into and items stolen. It's really sad to witness

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We've also seen a lot of vandalism of newly built houses. We'll see what information we can get so we can do a video on it.

  • @David-K-NY
    @David-K-NY 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks very much....

  • @bhalchandrawalimbe8806
    @bhalchandrawalimbe8806 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    beautyful photography

  • @charmainesutherland3246
    @charmainesutherland3246 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gosnells has so much history, Beautiful old buildings & homes-so much wildlife & new homes popping up. Best Suburb 👌 Good Vodeo Guys

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is an in-demand suburb and it did look good when we were there.

  • @bulletfodder
    @bulletfodder 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mary Carroll Park lakes fills up over winter and the native birds flock back. 2024 summer has been particularly dry. There's water in the lake throughout the year and only dries up towards the end of summer.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. We thought it was very sad looking without any water. Good to know that it does fill up.

  • @PassportDreamGetaways
    @PassportDreamGetaways 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice tour of Midland.Thank you

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video 🙂

  • @mrwalker6026
    @mrwalker6026 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Midland the poor man's Northbridge..anti-social behaviour from the deadbeats and homeless that flood into the area every Centrelink pay day from the train ruins it

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately anti-social behaviour happens wherever there are lots of amenities such as government services, train stations and shops.

  • @Keep_calm_and_slave_on
    @Keep_calm_and_slave_on 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Back along time ago people used to get rich by hard work and mining gold , but nowadays you just got to own property. I don’t know why Mining for gold is worth it when you can just get rich by buying houses. Do you believe if interest rates fall will homeowners get richer?

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Homeowners will only make money if they sell. Unfortunately if they sell in this market and they need to buy in this market, they won't make a profit. The media hype about how much houses are worth won't translate into a profit for many people.

  • @ramshoja1455
    @ramshoja1455 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Boss you and your camera lady (sue) are legends.thank you very much for best update about this perfect suburb. We love you from Newcastle.🙏

  • @MarieWhitehead-ep6cu
    @MarieWhitehead-ep6cu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Ivor and Sue, great video, looks like Midland has had a make over and lots of shops I like Midland because it's close to Guildford and there Perth Hills. Thank you

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Midland is constantly changing and getting more facilities. The government is investing a lot of money with the new railway station and the major brands are all moving into the shopping precincts.

  • @MrRichardhood
    @MrRichardhood 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s got potential

    • @Keep_calm_and_slave_on
      @Keep_calm_and_slave_on 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As much potential as getting the booster

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not everyone agrees but we also think it has potential.

  • @charmainesutherland3246
    @charmainesutherland3246 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gosnells...go on pop in & do a video-plenty of locals will give you a chat-try floating around the Coles or IGA or Markets-always free entertainment from visitors. Would be interesting what stats you find. Good videos anyway👍

  • @charmainesutherland3246
    @charmainesutherland3246 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gosnells...go on pop in & do a video-plenty of locals will give you a chat-try floating around the Coles or IGA or Markets-always free entertainment from visitors. Would be interesting what stats you find. Good videos anyway👍

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We have already done a video on Gosnells and didn't see anything unusual. Check out our video 🙂

  • @Defensive_Wounds
    @Defensive_Wounds 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I liked and subbed! I never knew about this joint when it was around, I lived out bush at the time as a kid!! But I did go to Dizzy Lamb Park - have you been there? I have one audio cassette ad on one of my old tapes for it and went there as a family once! lol

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for subscribing. Yes - we also went to Dizzy Lamb Park. But that was in its final years of operation and it wasn't particularly good as it was very run down. 😎

  • @daze134
    @daze134 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Informative

  • @jaidaniel3731
    @jaidaniel3731 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does Caversham needs permission from council to build up a residential front yard fence???

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We believe there are height restrictions so you will need to check the requirements with the local shire (City of Swan).

    • @jaidaniel3731
      @jaidaniel3731 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vloggersontheloose 1.6 meters

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good to know. Thanks 🙂

  • @purplehays5296
    @purplehays5296 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Iluka next door is better. Better parks, pub, docs, dentist, gym, IGA etc. Bus stop on your vid takes you to Joondalup Train Station.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. We have also done a video on Iluka if you want to check it out 🙂

  • @atomicpollywaffle
    @atomicpollywaffle 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As much as I disagree with many of your assessments, I still watch and share your videos. Please check your audio settings because left channel only sucks. Guessing you record with decent quality stereo equipment, please mux the audio to mono before uploading. Stereo is fine for certain situations like when you are indoor plugging some food place for free food but in the open while walking makes your vids unwatchable. You have nuggets of useful info amongst your Dunning Kruger vids.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your very interesting comment. We appreciate you watching and sharing our videos and will take onboard the advice about the audio 😎

    • @Craig-xf1fx
      @Craig-xf1fx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well 99 percent of people on here love the videos and great advice. Keep up the great work guys 👌👌👍👍

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. We appreciate your support 😊

  • @thermojo5223
    @thermojo5223 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonder what they all have in common?

  • @ramshoja1455
    @ramshoja1455 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep watching existing..

  • @trollhunter8148
    @trollhunter8148 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    do you have any link in thefting

  • @Randomtvonline
    @Randomtvonline 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bad sound on your video. Only coming through left speaker

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We'll check but it has been recorded with full sound.

    • @ramshoja1455
      @ramshoja1455 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vloggersontheloose good sounds all to me.👌

  • @ramshoja1455
    @ramshoja1455 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks nice and very good information about past. You are very good about that .thanks

  • @cr8114
    @cr8114 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    susan you also started vlogging

  • @SuperLuckao
    @SuperLuckao 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You sound a bit s african. Are you?

  • @denisefearon767
    @denisefearon767 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful spot 👌

  • @nganyaemmanuel6353
    @nganyaemmanuel6353 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you very much my friend for showing us the video of Burns Beach suburb in Perth. Perth houses are really very beautiful,modern and bigger than the rest of Australia.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Our building standards are higher here as double-brick construction is standard which isn't the same in the other states. Our land here is also relatively cheaper than other states so people can spend more on the build.

    • @ramshoja1455
      @ramshoja1455 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vloggersontheloose seems to be better than here in uk .high quality house in Perth .as you know all land are sandy any subsidence problem over there?! In uk a lot because of water a lot of rainfall season.thanks

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't have a subsidence problem here. We also don't get the rainfall that the UK gets.

    • @ramshoja1455
      @ramshoja1455 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vloggersontheloose ✌️

  • @marilynfanning5137
    @marilynfanning5137 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh look a trolley tipped over lol😂

  • @MrRichardhood
    @MrRichardhood 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great spot in Perth

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes - people that have their beach shacks there are laughing all the way to the bank 😎

  • @elmerfudd6305
    @elmerfudd6305 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Total population of a suburb per Total crimes theft.. as some suburbs Have a huge population and some Have small population.. Thats what counts..to get an accruate figure..

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not always residents of the suburb that are involved in the criminal activity.

  • @orionfrost
    @orionfrost 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I spent the entire video repeatedly saying "Not mine" in my head hoping my suberb wasn't on the list

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hopefully it wasn't 🙂

    • @orionfrost
      @orionfrost 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @vloggersontheloose Thankfully not but there's still a high level of theft in my area

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately crime is everywhere.

  • @bobhayes3550
    @bobhayes3550 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks so much Ivor for a informative and interesting journey I have to admit I lived in Queensland for quite a few years and the coastal beaches in Western Australia leave many beaches in Queensland second rate beautiful white sand crystal clear water.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, we are very lucky over here with our beaches. 😎

  • @stevendoust6658
    @stevendoust6658 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tip look over your shoulder wherever you go these days

  • @simchenaumoski
    @simchenaumoski 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Besides butler every suburb is south side. Do you do any videos around the Stirling / balcatta area. I’m Perth based definitely wanna keep updated with your videos 👏

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We have done both Stirling and Balcatta in our earlier videos. We have also done a lot on the northern suburbs. Check out our back catalogue.

  • @cozdm7264
    @cozdm7264 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you need to do a story on Clayton farm 1100 acres. Then all the paddocks from Bellevue to Boya/Helena Valley and the Helena river will all come together.

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. We'll look into doing that.

  • @daze134
    @daze134 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lots of houses having solar power...

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seems to be the trend in Perth. We also have solar panels 😎

  • @daze134
    @daze134 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, beautiful suburb. Old world charm

    • @vloggersontheloose
      @vloggersontheloose 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We were surprised by how nice it was. We hadn't been there before.

  • @Surroundx
    @Surroundx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The shopping centre with Coles was built years after the one with Woolworths in it. Hence the different names.