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Definitely not. Better ways to make a .22lr.

@@AlsAirguns maybe some advice what air gun shall i buy for making 22lr?Some model in sale,gamo maybe?

@@snakes111b one of the reasons it’s not feasible is a .22 Long Rifle bullet is a larger diameter than a .22 caliber pellet. The ..22lr bullet wound fit down the .22 pellet gun barrel. The bullet is too fat. People do use ram set blanks in .22lr from the hardware store to propel pellets out of single shot .22 cal firearms but that’s different. Gun calibers can be confusing. For instance a 44 magnum bullet is actually .429 caliber but that didn’t sound as cool. 😎

Thanks & welcome 🤗

I’m opening a small online store in the next two weeks. I’m going to carry them for $12.50 plus shipping $2.50 (CONUS). If you need one right away contact sales at TKO22.com. Tell Mike Al sent you and I believe he’ll honor that price through his eBay store.

I’m using the Feyatchi Dot sight. It’s detailed in my video “Most Popular Electronic Sight on the Internet. It’s a multi-reticle red/green electronic sight available on Amazon for less than $30.

@@AlsAirguns Thanks,👍🏼

Awesome contribution brother. That’s precisely the kind of background I enjoy. And it ties together the bit’s and pieces I’d picked up along the way. Thanks for sharing this! From the little I have seen the o-rings seem like a weak spot in the design. Fully exposed and easily damaged, potentially of poor quality to start. Would you happen to know Tim and Mac1s current status? I have had people asking but have no information. Nor did the site seem to be active anymore. Thanks again for sharing. Be well

@@AlsAirguns Thanks Al 👍🍻 The Airgun Digest I was referring to is the 3rd Edition from 1995...I used to own a copy but now can't find it..😅 Last I'd heard, Tim was attempting a convalescence following an automobile accident, but beyond that, I'm afraid I don't know anything further... The only outfit I know of that is still tuning the QB78 series is Mountain Air Custom Airguns... apparently Mike Mellick closed up shop a year or two ago now, and I have no idea what the current state of MAC1 is unfortunately.. Perhaps someone on the various airgun forums would know more? Take it easy Al 😁👍🍻

@@natesmith5393 Thanks, actually it was Roy from Mountain Air Custom that was asking me if I knew anything more about Tim. I owe Roy a call so I’ll pass this along. Btw, can I use your response in my follow up/Part 2 on the QB78E?

@@AlsAirguns Certainly Al...use whatever you think will be helpful 👍🍻 While l can't confirm the authenticity of what I'd heard, I do hope Tim is doing alright regardless - he's certainly no spring chicken anymore 👍 I do know that Mr. McMurray has long held a reputation for being gruff, terse, and sometimes impersonable,; he was also never shy about tooting his own horn based on what I've seen... Of course, capable, intelligent people who are hyper-focused on their passions don't often make the best socialites in my experience, and I suppose the man is due a bit of slack given all he's contributed to the American airgunning community over the years 🍻👍 If I hear anything further on the matter, I'll endeavor to let you know Al 👍 BTW, if you ever have any interest in (or questions about) spring/gas piston airguns, I'd recommend talking to Jon at Keystone Airguns; he's very friendly & knowledgeable on the subject 🍻👍 Additionally, he imports, sells, and tunes Cometa air rifles from Spain. Based on my experience, his tune work is quite good - I bought a pre-tuned Galaxy 220 in .22 caliber from him that I've been wringing out for several months now. I've posted about it over in the airguns group on the bushcraft usa forums, and have even managed to bag a few backyard pests with it 😁👍🍻 I've been trying to upload a review video to my channel on this platform as well, but so far, no joy... Thanks again for the replies Al - take it easy 👍👍🍻🍻

Thank you! Cheers!

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I bet it works!

This is really trippy as I’ve owned two versions of the 3622 and haven’t seen those issues with either of them. Have you asked for a refund?

@AlsAirguns no I haven't. Probably won't cause I think it been too long. Where I live I need my airgun to be as quiet as possible cause it's illegal to shot in my own backyard.

@@sirsmokinbud1332 Have you given them a chance to fix it?

@AlsAirguns no but my wife convinced me to try

I’m pretty certain that the owner will stand behind the product. I’m in agreement with your wife. Give Mike (the owner a call at the number on the website.) I think you’ll be pleased you did.

Sorry for the slow response. I’ve been away. I’m trying to remember where it goes, unfortunately Gamo does not publish diagrams. I believe you’re looking at a pies that goes towards the rear of the metal tube on the bottom between the metal assembly and the synthetic stock. Sorry I’m not more help.

If you can send it back, I would do that. It’s obviously not functioning properly. It you can’t let me know & we will trouble shoot. By the way, are you using a Dropbox of PellGun or other silicone or light oil on the tips of the co2 cartridges before inserting. Also, you’re using 12 gram co2 carts from a major manufacturer?

@@AlsAirguns I haven’t used anything to coat the tip of the co2 tank and I’m using 2 12gram daisy brand tanks can’t return sale was final

@@hectorcastellanosceja4614 okay, I’m running out for the night but will get to this in the morning. You’ve got a gas leak that we need to identify and stop.

@@AlsAirguns thank you

Sorry man, I forgot yesterday was Father’s Day. I was busy all day. I’ve been thinking about your gun. You obviously have a seal that is leaking. From the description you gave it sounds like you hear and or feel gas escaping from the breech area. Where you load the pellet. On your gun the entire tube is pressurized when the cartridges are popped. They often leak at the end where you load them. That can be fixed with a common o-ring. If it’s leaking at the breech it could be a couple of o-rings and gas seals around or in the valve. If you’re going to break the gun down that far you may as well replace them all. You can purchase replacement seals and rebuild kits online from Archerair.com Youcan watch a video on how to do so at Walnutandsteel channel on TH-cam. They have a QB78s seal replacement/rebuild video. It’s the same Gunn as yours with a different stock. Before you do any of that put a drop of light machine oil or 30wt motor oil on the top of each co2 capsule before installing them. This lubricates the seals & will sumetimes unstick stuck ones. Let me know what you find.

Pretty cool setup. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻

No it shoots salt.

That’s right, cowboy 🤠

Glad to help. Please let me know how it goes.

Wow, sounds like a cool build. 👍🏻

Maybe some day.

Really surprising, right?

Mine didn’t work long enough too.

Center Point Dot Sight & DpnnyFL Tanto moderator.

That’s why I can’t recommend it. The ones that used to come in from Russia were pretty good. They had some dried tannerite like compound inside a plastic tube. But the were surprisingly loud.

I agree with your position. I’m just concerned about the distribution aspect. Will the cartridges be readily available? I like the concept though.

That’s crazy fast. Capable of taking bison 🦬 no doubt.

The better effect for most hunters is the much flatter trajectory at those speeds.

@AlsAirguns ya they say it can Robin hood at 100yds and basically drop any wild game that you can possibly hunt so it definitely no joke in the power department. Only for the range or hunting that for sure with that kinda power.💯👍✌️

@@josephsaucedo8691 that things gotta be tough on backstops

I’m glad it helped. Thanks for commenting.

I totally know what you mean. As a testament to the design of those airguns both have improved variants still in production today. Great way to get started shooting.

The word from people I respect is the Beeman is an excellent gun and does come with a steel breech. It’s made of good old wood and blued steel and is available at a price which contradicts its cost of construction. The cost to make versus sales price is only accomplished by a state supported industrial complex. They are definitely an impressive value and have many great features. The Crosman on the other hand is much lighter and in my opinion better handling. If you’re looking to snap shoot small game it, leaps to the shoulder mounting and pointing naturally like it part of you. As you know you need to upgrade/replace the breech if you want to add an optic. Not to tough but not as easy as aging one to a 2240. Of course if you just want to add a dot sight and not change the breech you could add the small rear pic rail that replaces the rear sight. I have a video putting one on a 1377. I have one on my 3622 right now holding a Feyachi dot sight. They’re less $15 and you can switch back to the factory sight whenever you want. Also the Crosman comes with awesome factory and third party support. I think with the Beeman you’ll feel like you got more for your dollar. That being said personally I’d choose the Crosman.

Yes, I agree they’re much better moderated. Something we’ve only recently been able to do here in the US.

Yes, it’s a great spot. We just can’t get a break from the wind lately.

Thank you! 😊

I suspect you’re right about the long term failure of the product. I believe availability and price of the cartridges, particularly availability will be its undoing. You also brought up something I had not considered which is the break-barrel buyers moving to this. I would certainly be easier for them to learn to shoot well than some magnum springer.

Thanks!

I’m trying to remember what I paid years ago. I was thinking it was over $50 with shipping.

We’ve had lots of rain or sunny days with 30 mile an hour winds. So shooting indoors has been a lifesaver. So yes, I’m a fan of indoor ranges. Good luck on yours.

Totally agree with your thoughts. I’ll probably get one myself for a multitude of reasons. I thought the reason the Fusion 2 was not as popular as it could have been if people had opted to use the 88 gram carts instead of that sketchy 12 gram adapter.

@AlsAirguns shot a fusion this weekend (not the 2 I don't think). Or at least I think it was one of the guns I shot... I at least held it because that triangle moderator 😂🤣 If I shot it, it was definitely with 2 co2 not an 88g. I have resisted getting any co2 up until now because I don't want to buy cartridges, but the Komplete will suck me in anyway. Plus there are still some Crosman guns that need to join my family. 😆 Anyway, we'll have to see in July+ when they reach us Gen poppers.

Plus (not saying airguns are a good investment) if it’s a great gun and things end up being cool as far as availability and cost of the N2 cartridges, then it’s a win. If it ends up being an obscure piece of airgun history like the CO2 powered Critter Gitter Pistol from Daisy/Umarex in the 70’s. That .357/9mm CO2 powered shot pistol (single projectile too) was short lived but ultra cool and equally rare, that I’d love to have today.

@@AlsAirguns exactly!

Finally got a chance to check out his videos. Super cool. Very knowledgeable person with a great way of explaining. Definitely top shelf. Thanks for sharing.

@AlsAirguns nice. His airguns are set up for hpa. If you notice he's using nitrogen. Co2 and helium can all be done the same exact way to refill. If changing to a different source just make sure it's completely empty before you filling a different type of air source. They don't and won't tell you this when selling and advertising a airgun. Probably because they want you to buy the disposable nitrogen tanks. With the right adapter the disposable nitrogen tank can actually be refilled to basically a check valve and foster fill adapters on top of a empty tank makes it refillable this also applies to the 88g co2 tanks Once empty you could refill it with any source you like to use. This goes for all hpa airguns they don't care what source you fill it with there design to use anything as a air source. It just not advertised . Hope this was a little easier to grasp and understand 💯👍✌️

Yes, much easier to understand. Thanks for the education. And thanks for sharing the resource.

I had no idea about the 760 barrel band. Good tips.

Yes, but it’s under the stock.

Swiped the fingernail polish from my wife. The glue is a decoy. 😁

They’re.22 caliber.

Yes, but only by taking the stock off or by modding the stock.

@@AlsAirgunsCool deal. Appreciate you taking the time to answer. I’ve been looking at this gun because of the price but wondered if it could be adjusted. At first I said no because of the open sights but learned that you could buy a breech block so I’m back looking at it. Lol.

There are things it doesn’t have or do. But what it does it does really well. Mine came adjusted to shoot a 14.3 grain Crosman or Benjamin pellet slightly over 700 FPS. That’s really all I need from it & exactly what I was looking for. Also, mine gets every bit of 25 shots per fill. Because I’m used to CO2 guns I’m often aware it’s getting low but just adjust my aim to compensate. When shooting for fun like that 30+ shots often happen. Good luck on your decision & purchase. Be well & thanks for commenting. 👍🏻

You’re right about those UTD low profile adapters.i had Roy at Mountain Air Custom Airguns make the bolt for me. I would like to try a well made hollow probe in the future but I’ll need a different supplier.Thanks for your thoughts.

Thanks, much appreciated.

They do off & on with a considerably higher price tag. Woodstocks are more common under their Benjamin brand but synthetic is still a huge percentage. Knowing what I do about Chinese firearm production where massive quantities are produced and inventoried for later distribution and sales decades later. I suspect something similar is at play. I don’t know where to look or how to interpret the production codes but I can’t help but wonder if we are seeing stocks and blued steel components produced in state factories decades ago. Perhaps the 80’s or 90’s. Then they update various components like sights for new models. I noticed even the Chinese have gone synthetic on newer models.

Yes, I thought the same thing. That’s why I was surprised to get it on a pump up pneumatic. I thought man this is perfect for a 12 gr CO2 gun.

Thanks, the factory shells can grow expensive. And sometimes they are out of stock. That makes reloading a good thing to know.

I put a bid in on a used Viper on EBay. I wonder if Gamo stopped making them?

No they are in production. You can get them from Pyramid Air for @ $220 shipped.