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@@JT-nf9tk Thanks Joe. I don’t usually pursue ornate type shave pieces, but the cost was low enough to bring this one home.

@@SeanG8282 I do like the couple that I have.

@@BigEShaves I’d like to see her on Oprah again. 🤣

@@Martins-Shaves123 Thanks Martin. I did work on peening these pins to the safe extent of my skill set. The pivot pin and center pin are the washerless type and have been mushroomed into the scales from some time ago. They currently have very little protruding stock left. I am not sure the last time I saw a non-plastic toothpaste tube here in Murica. I had totally forgotten about those lead tubes until I started looking into the genuine Burma-Shave. For centuries in my trade, lead alloys were used for type in print production. I saw on a documentary on Linotype machines where it was common to use an allow ‘cast type slug’ to stir one’s coffee in the optional cup holder built into of that world changing invention. When I was in the ink business, I remember in the 80’s seeing a Linotype machine on display at the Smithsonian Museum and commenting to my wife that I had customers who still used this type of equipment then. One of these businesses that I know of still uses it today.

@billm.2677 good technology never dies . Computer chips and modern stuff is junk when barely a generation old .

@@Martins-Shaves123 I was involved in the acquisition of a new piece of nice printing equipment. Older similar equipment could take a 2 man crew a full shift to put in a complex changeover. The new gizmo (without a single gear) would allow me to single-handedly put in a more complex change in less than 1/2 shift and run at 3-4x speed. While the Confusah Computah had a self diagnostic mode, the replacable electronics had market cycles were way too short. It really sucked to find that a component is no longer made and out of stock. Then you need the engineer, the electrician, and the programmer to work together and do the impossible. Glad to be out of that hot box. 😃

@@seanstapelfeld It was pretty nice. It was done on 2 curves, when I redo, I will deepen the hollow in the back of the bevel a bit. Great steel.

@@borbelyhaz321 I always say I am a fan of super thin grinds, but come to thing of it I don’t think I have used anything heavier than a half-hollow

@@horizondrive2039 Verbiage totally worth of a steward to the Nuclear Codes. 😮

@@horizondrive2039 Thanks for tuning in again. I do not have a long storage differentiated from general storage. After a razor dries I do apply a thin coat of renaissance wax and buff off. Some go in a silicone impregnated Sackups style pouch, some into the coffin box or leather case they came in. All go into a plastic bin that contains desiccant pouches. If I did not have more aftershaves and soaps than I will ever use, I might get some of that Hotel Cecil. Thanks for sharing that information.

You can also use a good heavy spoon, I'm willing to bet he's already aware of this though.

@@horizondrive2039 that spoon trick is a good tip, thanks for sharing.

@@michaelshults7675 Hi Mike. Unfortunately this one has been peened almost flush to the scale

They also sell talc powder.

@@horizondrive2039 Hello there, thanks for tuning in. I do have inventory of Et Tu soap, aftershave and Star Jelly. Great stuff, I love them. No current Et Tu inventory though. Thanks for sharing on the powder, unfortunately I think the PAA stuff is a talc free product. If Et Tu comes around again, I might get some anyhow.

@@billm.2677 gladly, I enjoy watching your videos. You're correct, it is talc free, I wasn't aware. I've only tried the aftershave splash, it takes me back to when I was a kid, watching my dad shave. Do you know of any English leather dupes that closely mimic the older formula?

I am glad you enjoyed the soap and thanks for your honest feedback. I get so sick of the flock of sheep honers. They chastise us because we refuse to fall in line. Group think is boring, stale and lazy. I need to challenge himself to feel alive.

I am a victim of your sarcasm, I require compensation for it

​@@seanstapelfeld😂🎉

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Okay then, I’ll send over some plastic animals to harvest brush hair from. 😎

@@billm.2677 🤣😅

@@BigEShaves 3 passes, face, arms, chest…25 min ? 🤨🤔 Seems you could fit the back in too. 🤣🤣

@@JT-nf9tk Thanks for bringing up the movie name for those interested in watching it

@@dnamol Thanks Johan. I gotta do the lapping film on a stick thing too. If Jarrod decides to market his current invention, I think you can be sure that one of these “Jarrod ProCurve Back-beveling Devices” will be on my shopping list.

@billm.2677 2 months after finally getting my own Jarrod-plate 🤣. Well, it's good to have, and if I can sponsor him by buying one, so be it..

@@dnamol I do think the Jarrod Plate is the most wonderful tool to have. Even though I have manually shaped stones using a flexible diamond plate I would never give mine up.

@@Martins-Shaves123 I actually ordered mine because I loved yours so much. I was going to call it the Martin 14. 😀 In a discussion the other day, Leon said had he not chosen the profession in ministry, he might have opted to be a lawyer. I said, with your height and eloquence you would have done well.

@billm.2677 your so right ! Leon is just to honest to be a lawyer 😆

@@seanstapelfeld Tried to warn ya. 🤣

@@samlincicome4904 Thanks tor tuning in. I have been known to use sarcasm, satire, and wit in some of my presentations. I’m assuming I lost you early rather than later. If there is confusion in your mind, I can attempt to clear things up. Either way, be well.

@@longhaultanker How ya doin Driver! You did send a text. I’m playing catch up on vids. Be safe.

@@James-wg8qk HI James. Thanks for tuning in and offering everyone your opinion. I am quite experienced in the understanding of the points you make, I regret that you have not progressed from where you are. All shave forum Honemaster Superiors and Drone Doners who have NEVER tried a convexed hone have regurgitated those exact points for years. I can even list the names for you. You are probably not aware that these “warps down the edge” you speak of likely come from the ONLY existing Solingen Forge in which ALL Solingen razor makers must use to market a protected “Solingen” trademark. These crappy warped Solingen razor blanks are also sold outside Germany. You will hear the most whining about Dovo only because they represent many times the volumes of other makers. As for my lackings, I am well aware of every one of them, and this is not one. Looking forward to actually help others, can you please come out of your parents basement and make us some honing videos on the topic to prove you are not just another expert level keyboard krusader that has only mastered BS. Tag me in on your vid so I will be sure to catch it.

@billm.2677 I don't know how, from any of my comment, you gathered that I have never tried either a convex stone or a blade that had been honed by one. I am also not certain how you think a convex stone will change the surface area of contact, when the whole purpose of a convex stone is to change the angle and profile of the bevel to the apex. When you make videos, you open yourself up to criticism and discourse. If that is something your ego can't handle, maybe consider not making them. For your own mental and emotional health. These QC issues with Dovo are so widely known and have played their fair part in the company failing. Personally, I hope they pull it together, cause when a Dovo is good, it's good. Otherwise, why pay a premium price for a crap shoot on quality? Especially when there are so many other makers out there that can produce consistent quality. Take Ralf Aust, for example. Solingen based, one man operation, and never sends out the garbage Dovo has. Honestly, Bill, if you can't hold a conversation without making wild and unfounded personal attacks, I would prefer you just not reply.

@@James-wg8qk I still doubt you ever honed off a convex hone, convince me. Do you understand an elliptically crowned hone? If so, you could understand how contact surfaces change so a blade and spine contact with varies. I and others have presented it many times here on TH-cam. Most users of convex hones have this elliptically crowned surface, even though the 1840s German grinders handbook cataloging the techniques does not specify a cross crowning nor curvature specifications. Let’s understand, this is my channel, where I talk about what I want, and I control the content. If you are looking a safe haven for the bloviating open criticism and discourse that is your exemplified style, start your own channel. And you are completely free to not watch my stuff or comment. I really hope you don’t think that anything you can say damages my ego or mental and emotional health. What Shave Forum did you say you were affiliated with again? I’d guess the Bludgeon & Beatdown or the Squatters Razor Palace based on your typical parroting of the typical Dovo QC whine. And if you have to blame Dovo because you can’t hone their stuff without starting by bread-knifing 1/16 off on a diamond plate, it is not them, it is you. Oh and let’s take Ralf Aust who generallyhas a fine reputation for razor making, but has sent out his fair share of poorly QC’d bent/warped razors. Probably because like every other production razor maker, he is too cheap or lazy to forge his own stuff and uses the same crappy bent up stuff from Hugo-Herkenrath forge that everyone else use. I applaud that he did make good on some very sloppy scale trimming a well known collector caught him trying to pass off as good QC. The QC manager probably missed something when he hit it with his white stick. One good thing about Ralf is that he had Brad Maggard go over there and teach him how to hone right. “So many others”? Give me a break, Straight razors are almost universally dying. When Ralf hangs up his apron, there will be not apprentice who will pick it up. I’m not really here to hold conversations. Like I said, it is MY Channel where I talk about what I want and try to entertain those who wish to take the time to watch. And, if you come on MY channel to deliver me a scolding that ends with “This speaks to a lacking on your part”, then expect me to not to discuss it on a later vid your are kidding yourself. Somehow when I do this and invite those who are offended to Smash that Unlike and Unsubscribe button, I always wind up with more subscribers from around the world. If you want a place that hates convex honers and is sensitive to your needs, head on over to the B&B. I do thank you for the future content though.

@@RealSweetTom Hope you like it. I do like my own honing better. Most accomplished honers feel the same way.

@@pikaporeon Thanks for watching. I like how these shave and the tightness of the plastic scales over wood. I’ll probably buy another one. I have friends who have expectations about new shave pieces that easily exceed my own even on low cost stuff. For them, I say it may not be perfect.

@@dr.killjoy29 Thanks for tuning in. IMO, you are having a very common experience. I use all this older stuff mostly for the challenge. At one time, I THOUGHT I had way too large of a DE blade inventory….🤣 🤣 🤣. Can you say New Old Stock?

@@JT-nf9tk Thanks Joe. This exercise reminded of the good old days before GSsixgun, DaltonGang, and Steve56 helped take The Shave Den forward…AND protect all the newbies from those like me who believed people should be able do what they want with their own stuff.

@@billm.2677 It's a shame that decent people such as yourself were banned from The Shave Den. Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? You definitely are missed on the 30DC thread. In any event, I think that events in our lives happen for a reason. Again, have a safe Labor Day my friend.

@@JT-nf9tk I appreciate it Joe. I did kind of get a chance for a ban reversal from PLANofMAN…if I could behave. 🤣 Sorry, but a proper and public apology from the forum owner was called for. I wish I would have taken screen shots of the DM’s from Chris when he was a forum Moderator discussing his opposition to the behind the scenes pressure he was getting to have me banned for posting videos of my honing. Without having chosen a side, he said he viewed my stuff, found NO violation of terms and a sense of a sincerity in my presentations. If he did not oppose my ejection, it would have happened far sooner than it did. Once the Big Bore Earring guy(Jody or something) took over things changed. I’m not sure if he is related to Joanna or what, but she should have made better choices. I have great respect for PLANofMAN for how he ultimately handled that razor sharpening topic amongst his other great contributions over the years, but I don’t see him being able to generate a TSD come back any more than SRP had or B&B will. Kind of foolish for these “for profit” business to so poison their key asset, the interest of participants. Take care Joe. Time to get another vid from the “Teacher on the Big Island”.

@@billm.2677 I definitely understand your position. It was definitely egregious that you were banned. As the current moderator of the 30 DC thread, I would welcome you back with open arms. In the meantime, keep doing what you are doing.

@@JT-nf9tk Thanks for the offer Joe.

@@RealSweetTom Hello my friend, thanks for tuning in. It is a great straight razor, I love mine and considered it to have been delivered with one of the better “factory edges”, but would I still recommend a starter to look for a vendor willing to re-hone the factory edge. For a someone without a financial barrier, it is great. Stainless construction, superb grinding and individual numbering present an added long term value. For those with cost limits that may be just “Straight Razor Curious” I like to suggest any of the lower cost Thiers Issard products best, if going new. Reputable sources on previously owned razors can help you through your learning process. Also it is not bad to think about more that one razor to have a balanced benchmark on the hardware you use while developing your skills and preferences. Good Luck.

@@billm.2677 Hey Bill, thanks for your reply, and great advice. I'll look into Theirs Issard ✊

@@greggallant5058 thank you Greg

@@Bamaboyshaving Thank you Michael

@@Martins-Shaves123 Thanks Martin. No shame to be had at all in choosing to only shave with the open edge. 150 years ago it was the only choice.

@@billm.2677 and still the best choice 😁

@@dnamol My fave DE of all time was a custom machined brass gizmo without guards. Frightening to look at but it shave very well. The retired guy that built this kind of stuff always gave them away to one of those on the pass around tests. I wish I got that one.

@@BigEShaves Big E wins with the first In. 👍 Where the hell is Daisy in this thing? 😎

@@billm.2677Sean will be in shortly 😂

@@BigEShaves Daisy sliding in 2nd today!

@@davec1768 Hi Dave. Hope you are well. There is one thing I can ‘guarantee’ to be true…If you do not believe that there are any benefits of using a crowned surface hone to sharpen a razor, you will NEVER be able to get satisfactory results attempting to use this method. For me, even though I keep trying, I was never able to properly learn to hone razors on flat stones, maybe I just never flattened them enough or one must possess exceptional skills or every user must have exceptional skills, reasoning and understanding of the process. I did have my most successful attempt on a really crappy Gold Dollar recently on an ILR hone. If you ever get around to making a YT video that can help me with my honing pursuits with flat stones, make sure to tag me in so I don’t miss it. We could discuss actual dates on when the use of convex hones was further, but I do have an antique commercial convex hone and strop from before 1870 as well as the US patent documentation dated 1843. I think you can find my video where I showcase that item.

@@billm.2677 Bill, I know you had problems honing with flat stones and I can understand you doing something you are confident with and it works for you. However, science doesn't back up what you believe in my opinion. I have played around with convex honing on different styles of razors. I even bought a digital scope which links to my laptop so that I could see the bevel profile. I found it difficult getting the final bevel truly parallel with the undercut, and I did notice an improvement when shaving with a wedge razor. However, the amount of time, trouble and effort wasn't worth the improvement. I recently bought a NOS 13/16" Henckels Friodur 72. It's an early 70s razor, the design, shape and grind is excellent and the edge is sublime. Honing took a little longer than a standard carbon steel, but definitely worth it. I've had Henckels carbon steel razors in the past and found them to be an average German razor, the stainless steel version is far better. Hope you are well. All the best for the future.

@@davec1768 Not being an engineer or scientist in honing method discussions, I mostly come from an artisan or craftsman like perspective. There IS an engineer in Norway who generally can be found using the screen name of his initials JPO. He is and engineer by education and profession as well as an experienced construction craftsman. He was the first person that I had ever seen shaping hones using a flexible diamond plate. His work inspired me to expand my work to similar pursuits, which I have been successful at. If you wish to discuss the mathematical and scientific aspects of why the use of a crowned surface hone works I would encourage you to look for some of his writings that can be found on a number of shaving related forums. He is far kinder and more eloquent than I could ever be, and even convinced one of the greatest Jarrod haters and anti-convex Honemaster Superiors to actually try it. As it turns out he equaled his current honing result on the first try. FWIW, JPO was the individual who published the German Grinders Handbook after he had gotten it translated to English. It is what he has based most of his successful convex honing practices upon. He is also an accomplished practitioner in the use of other honing tools and styles. For me, when it comes to the topic of precision and science in the Kingdom of Straight Razor Manufacturing, I have absolutely NO respect or admiration for ANY of them especially since modern measurement technology could be so easily applied but is NEVER used. Now, if you ask me for my evaluations based on skills and craftsmanship, that WOULD be a different story. Good luck with your Henckels Friodur 72, hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine. A personal friend gifted me his Friodur 72 1/2 some time back which he expertly honed up on JNat stones. It is a wonderful razor. I have plenty of razors that I think shave in the same class if not a bit better. Even though there is no doubt in my mind that I would have no trouble matching shave performance on a re-hone using my very own method when it comes time to see the stones again, I’ll probably send it his way and pay him for re-honing. That way when I shave with it, I can always be reminded of his skill levels and our bond of friendship. Take care.

@@JD_Str8RZR Thanks Joe. A very nice compliment to Eric coming from another soap maker with a great reputation.

@@dnamol Thank you Johan.

@@JT-nf9tk Thanks Joe. It is a nice pine scent for sure.

@@longhaultanker Thanks Leon.

@@tathra1156 Thanks Mick.

@@Martins-Shaves123 As always thanks for the kind words.

@@borbelyhaz321 Bar soap…hmm. 🤔

@@BigEShaves Little dude? That is like taking the Corolla when you coulda drove the truck.

@@billm.2677 Yeah, the shipping is so much cheaper with a little helper.

@@BigEShaves You just need to order enough helper to qualify for “free shipping”. 🤣

@@seanstapelfeld I try not to get shave lubes too much like food anymore. Here is one where I used bacon grease. th-cam.com/video/paQ8ow8u51M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=A8w-2acSh1VCyLcm

@@RoninVancamp Thanks for tuning in Ronin. Happy shaves