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The Neuroscience of Improvisation
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2023
This channel explores the neurobiology of improvisation and related topics, such as music, meditation, dreaming, psychedelics, consciousness, and behavior change, with science-based insights into deepening your practice of improvisation.
The host, Dr. Bradley Vines, Ph.D., M.B.A., is a neuroscientist specializing in music and a baritone saxophonist.
The host, Dr. Bradley Vines, Ph.D., M.B.A., is a neuroscientist specializing in music and a baritone saxophonist.
Improvisation and Dreaming: Comparing These Intriguing States of Mind and Brain
In this program, we compare dreaming and improvisation focusing on creative synergies, experiential similarities, and the underlying neurophysiology. These states of mind are mutually illuminating. That is, learning about one provides insights into the other. A key insight here is that we can deepen our understanding of improvisation by exploring other states of mind that have overlapping experiential qualities or brain states. In his book Dreams of Awakening, Charlie Morley writes that “…there are many different ways to tell the difference between [different states of experience], but the easiest way to get to grips with these differences is to spend as much time as we can in these states.” I propose that this is the case for improvisation, as well. By paying more attention to our dreaming experiences, we may deepen our knowledge of the experience of improvisation.
References:
The Case of the Three-Sided Dream: tv.apple.com/us/movie/the-case-of-the-three-sided-dream/umc.cmc.2no74bniyii0qtz63oc0wrmih
Bashwiner, D. (2018). The neuroscience of musical creativity. The Cambridge Handbook of the neuroscience of creativity, 51, 495-516.
Link to Albert Ayler’s New Grass liner notes: lavelleporter.com/2010/08/22/message-from-albert-ayler/
I Called Him Morgan documentary: tv.apple.com/us/movie/i-called-him-morgan/umc.cmc.4cip1f47gqxk6qigg0mb1hiny
Arrows to Infinity documentary: tv.apple.com/us/movie/charles-lloyd-arrows-into-infinity/umc.cmc.3ldicyne96kj1hrewd9w3dmvj
Kansas City PBS documentary Bird: Not Out Of Nowhere | Charlie Parker's Kansas City Legacy: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkx9Z02xiRacQxWEtx5eSmeucx-t6lB5kYZ
Zadra, A., & Stickgold, R. (2021). When brains dream: Understanding the science and mystery of our dreaming minds. WW Norton & Company.
Oliver Sach’s article about the jazz drummer with Tourette’s Syndrome: medhum.med.nyu.edu/view/12034
Hank Green of the SciShow Psych: th-cam.com/video/KwOhfmygHyM/w-d-xo.html
Braun, A. R., Balkin, T. J., Wesenten, N. J., Carson, R. E., Varga, M., Baldwin, P., ... & Herscovitch, P. (1997). Regional cerebral blood flow throughout the sleep-wake cycle. An H2 (15) O PET study. Brain: a journal of neurology, 120(7), 1173-1197.
Kraehenmann, R. (2017). Dreams and psychedelics: neurophenomenological comparison and therapeutic implications. Current neuropharmacology, 15(7), 1032-1042.
Limb, C. J., & Braun, A. R. (2008). Neural substrates of spontaneous musical performance: An fMRI study of jazz improvisation. PLoS one, 3(2), e1679.
Liu, S., Chow, H. M., Xu, Y., Erkkinen, M. G., Swett, K. E., Eagle, M. W., ... & Braun, A. R. (2012). Neural correlates of lyrical improvisation: an fMRI study of freestyle rap. Scientific reports, 2(1), 834.
Rosen, D. S., Oh, Y., Erickson, B., Zhang, F. Z., Kim, Y. E., & Kounios, J. (2020). Dual-process contributions to creativity in jazz improvisations: An SPM-EEG study. NeuroImage, 213, 116632.
Walker, M. P., & van Der Helm, E. (2009). Overnight therapy? The role of sleep in emotional brain processing. Psychological bulletin, 135(5), 731.
Trehub, S. E., Ghazban, N., & Corbeil, M. (2015). Musical affect regulation in infancy. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 1337(1), 186-192.
Shenfield, T., Trehub, S. E., & Nakata, T. (2003). Maternal singing modulates infant arousal. Psychology of music, 31(4), 365-375.
Terry, P. C., Karageorghis, C. I., Curran, M. L., Martin, O. V., & Parsons-Smith, R. L. (2020). Effects of music in exercise and sport: A meta-analytic review. Psychological bulletin, 146(2), 91.
Seppälä, E., Bradley, C., & Goldstein, M. R. (2020). Research: Why breathing is so effective at reducing stress. Harvard Business Review. Diakses dari hbr. org/2020/09/research-why-breathing-is-so-effective-at-reducing-stress. hbr.org/2020/09/research-why-breathing-is-so-effective-at-reducing-stress
References:
The Case of the Three-Sided Dream: tv.apple.com/us/movie/the-case-of-the-three-sided-dream/umc.cmc.2no74bniyii0qtz63oc0wrmih
Bashwiner, D. (2018). The neuroscience of musical creativity. The Cambridge Handbook of the neuroscience of creativity, 51, 495-516.
Link to Albert Ayler’s New Grass liner notes: lavelleporter.com/2010/08/22/message-from-albert-ayler/
I Called Him Morgan documentary: tv.apple.com/us/movie/i-called-him-morgan/umc.cmc.4cip1f47gqxk6qigg0mb1hiny
Arrows to Infinity documentary: tv.apple.com/us/movie/charles-lloyd-arrows-into-infinity/umc.cmc.3ldicyne96kj1hrewd9w3dmvj
Kansas City PBS documentary Bird: Not Out Of Nowhere | Charlie Parker's Kansas City Legacy: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkx9Z02xiRacQxWEtx5eSmeucx-t6lB5kYZ
Zadra, A., & Stickgold, R. (2021). When brains dream: Understanding the science and mystery of our dreaming minds. WW Norton & Company.
Oliver Sach’s article about the jazz drummer with Tourette’s Syndrome: medhum.med.nyu.edu/view/12034
Hank Green of the SciShow Psych: th-cam.com/video/KwOhfmygHyM/w-d-xo.html
Braun, A. R., Balkin, T. J., Wesenten, N. J., Carson, R. E., Varga, M., Baldwin, P., ... & Herscovitch, P. (1997). Regional cerebral blood flow throughout the sleep-wake cycle. An H2 (15) O PET study. Brain: a journal of neurology, 120(7), 1173-1197.
Kraehenmann, R. (2017). Dreams and psychedelics: neurophenomenological comparison and therapeutic implications. Current neuropharmacology, 15(7), 1032-1042.
Limb, C. J., & Braun, A. R. (2008). Neural substrates of spontaneous musical performance: An fMRI study of jazz improvisation. PLoS one, 3(2), e1679.
Liu, S., Chow, H. M., Xu, Y., Erkkinen, M. G., Swett, K. E., Eagle, M. W., ... & Braun, A. R. (2012). Neural correlates of lyrical improvisation: an fMRI study of freestyle rap. Scientific reports, 2(1), 834.
Rosen, D. S., Oh, Y., Erickson, B., Zhang, F. Z., Kim, Y. E., & Kounios, J. (2020). Dual-process contributions to creativity in jazz improvisations: An SPM-EEG study. NeuroImage, 213, 116632.
Walker, M. P., & van Der Helm, E. (2009). Overnight therapy? The role of sleep in emotional brain processing. Psychological bulletin, 135(5), 731.
Trehub, S. E., Ghazban, N., & Corbeil, M. (2015). Musical affect regulation in infancy. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 1337(1), 186-192.
Shenfield, T., Trehub, S. E., & Nakata, T. (2003). Maternal singing modulates infant arousal. Psychology of music, 31(4), 365-375.
Terry, P. C., Karageorghis, C. I., Curran, M. L., Martin, O. V., & Parsons-Smith, R. L. (2020). Effects of music in exercise and sport: A meta-analytic review. Psychological bulletin, 146(2), 91.
Seppälä, E., Bradley, C., & Goldstein, M. R. (2020). Research: Why breathing is so effective at reducing stress. Harvard Business Review. Diakses dari hbr. org/2020/09/research-why-breathing-is-so-effective-at-reducing-stress. hbr.org/2020/09/research-why-breathing-is-so-effective-at-reducing-stress
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How can you reach any level of excellence without questioning? How am I doing ? asking is for feedback in order to build upon it, surely?
As a 3 year mandolinist , 20 year meditator and Buddhist for 25, i find Kenny's teachings to be genius. I wanted to learn rhe mandolin, many, MANY years before i actually started. Thinking is what stopped me. The genius of Kenny's teachings is the fact he is teaching very ancient, tried and true techniques, but he has removed them from the realm of "spirituality." The fact that a career musician and educator can admit he doesn't know what the real theory of relativity is, tells you all you need to know about this mans ego.
Hi Tommy, Great interview. In 1975 I was your Arranging one teacher at Berklee. I know you remember me. I hope you are doing well. You look great! DV
So glad to find this channel! Instant sub!
Greetings and many thanks! :-) If you'd ever like to talk about musicals from the perspective of psychology and neuroscience, I'd love to have that conversation.
Dreams and jazz very thankful
Dreams are awesome
Really enjoyed this! Looking forward to more videos around this topic. Thanks for sharing!
Many thanks! I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Hey this is really good! Watched while playing guitar and internalising your knowledge hands on! 😂 btw, I just started my PhD on music listening for improving sleep. I also started a neuroscience of music therapy channel -> Manukapp Science. Could be fun to have a chat ?
Many thanks for your note. I'd love to chat, absolutely! That's great that you are pursuing a PhD! It would be great to hear about your project as it develops.
Here is the answer to everything.... The thing to remember is that "consciousness" isn't actually there. The mind IS the illusion. And its obvious if you think about it. It litterally doesn't exist in physical reality. Its a program running. It's data. It's a "pettern". Patterns are not real things. Without a mind viewing them, there IS no "pattern". The zebra does not have "stripes". It has some atoms here, some atoms there, some others over there...and so on. The mind is based on electrochemical patterns and patterns do not exist in the world outside the mind. Therefore, what ACTUALLY evolved here in earth is a pattern recognition device. Creating and recognising patterns inside itself and using that to make sense of patterns outside itself. (evolved eyes). So, there are patterns, and there is a divorce that checks them. And so, to make this work, the pattern that creates the illusions of awareness was born. The "self". It woukd have started with a single celled organism detecting sunlight or PH and actioning the movement to go there. And the awareness that evolved is a great pattern because it increases survival...amd now the DNA is leaving the planet lol. Ok, but what you see is a pattern and a checker OF the pattern. Amd nothing more. Its happening in the synapsi, it's happening when you check your bank account or if you put the cat out. Checking causes an event in the universe to take place. Like the scientists have theories about atoms baci ally being tiny little checking objects. It seems the whole universe actually operates on a checking system. Like a computer. Like us. And if course we made the computers, but the point it, the function of the brain of course works on checking, but that's because EVERYTHING does....thats the universe. And so wherever we go, we see checking and balancing. Put to volitile chemicals together and they "react". They are checking. And so....there is a meeting point where the science, the philosophy and spiritualism all seem to nicely intersect. Nobodies toes or stood on and they are all in agreement. From the quantum field to the idea that all is one. All wrapped up with a nice little bow. But yes....there is no mind...only the illusion of one due to the "patterns" that the physical brain is making. But those patterns themselves are not actually there. Not real. Now...we can go into the busy street...amd we can understand that it is NOT a "car" or a "bus" or a "tree" or a "building"....it is just atoms in a certain geometric shape. It is only in illusion of mind that it is a "car". In truth, the most accurate experience of reality would be that of a rock or pebble...as soon as we have an opinion on something, it's wrong because "opinions" do not exist. And are not valid. In fact, "valid" does not exist either. Neither does "wrong". You see? There are no "questions" and their are no "answers". There is no "meaning" either. That's a brains creation. The Buddhists were right... the ultimate meaning of the universe and everything is simply..... " ". And we shall not give it a name...
Many thanks for your comment! What you wrote reminded me of the paradoxes inherent in Zen koans. Henry Shukman has a meditation on this theme, entitled What Is This?, as part of Waking Up, available here: dynamic.wakingup.com/course/COA0FF7?code=SCE8C67C8&share_id=396F7301&source=content%20share
Please can you do a Jack Nicholson impersonation? Thanks in advance...
Amazing! Thank you for this masterpiece! ❤
This was fantastic! A real confluence of interests for me as a jazz musician with a cog-sci bent. I eagerly await more 👏👏 For another example, Harry Mack is a freestyle rapper (many say the best alive), who talks about his process and experience in a very similar way. Also, John Vervaeke is a cognitive scientist with some great content on TH-cam regarding the flow state and improvisation. Check out his Meaning Crisis lecture episode #2!
Thank you for the feedback and tips, Kaleb (if I may)!!! Great to hear from you.
Thanks again for your comments. I've been taking a peak at John Vervaeke's work. It's fascinating!
@@ImprovisingNow Awesome! Glad you're finding it interesting!
Here is the relearning of steering a bicycle with backward steering. Knowledge, Practice, fail, Knowledge, practice, fail, then it clicked. th-cam.com/video/MFzDaBzBlL0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oo43lJ7-tjqKOBap
You are brilliant sir.. waching all your videos on TH-cam.. greetings from India 🎉
This video is criminally underrated! Amazing life giving advice! My greatest thanks to both
I'm on the fourth read of Effortless Mastery. And I always play "better" the next day if I read and listen to one of his four meditations. The Third meditation is confronting but so raw it is brutally Honest in breaking down your own lies, bias and over rating yourself has helped me master Bach's 846 in C. Which was my first piece I learned. I apply his book and philosophy to guitar bass piano and even finger drumming hip hop grooves. He is the maestro of making maestros. The "Four step Square" made me see the weaknesses, I had in Bach's 846, and it is neurological as it is spiritual. My OS was broken, lazy, arrogant and ran on talent never real honest practice.
It's inspiring to hear about your own experience applying Kenny Werner's methods. Many thanks for sharing!
Simply 👏👏👏👏👏👏Excellent
Great interview
Many thanks for your feedback!
What a blessing to have found this channel! I’ve just left a lucrative career to return to school to pursue neuroscience +/or pharmacology +/or endocrinology. But ideally, focusing on neuro and pharma probably, and how they relate to each other. I also am a musician first and foremost. It’s my first love. But lately I have been really marveling at the almost “divine inspiration” that seems to come during improvisational times, or during unstoppable flows of writing. I guess all this to say, you can see how all of this highly relevant to me!
That's wonderful to hear! I am inspired by what you are doing. You are onto something amazing with your learning efforts. That's an exciting direction!
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