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Cheers mate!

Couldn't agree more!

It really is! It's possible to complete the mission without tricking the Gunboat, but it's quite tedious and just takes even more time... With the airstrikes coming in, I'd rather get a move on!

Each to their own, I find it quite nostalgic as it's very similar to the old C&C music - same composer did both I believe.

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Touche! It's crazy how often the AI does something really strange and then other's when it seems like the AI is purposefully messing with you!

You should definitely boot it up again. I used to be useless at the game, I don't even think I finished the campaign when I first had the game back in the 90s and definitely struggled through all of the Covert Ops missions! It was good to play again 20 years later and realised I could actually work out how to complete the missions (not always in the perfect way!).

Got to love a bit of LotR!

Good spot, yes I remember being confused as too what they were doing at the time but you are right the nuke must have caught the helipads!

Hence they're best used in a player v. player format.

Yeah it's not really a fair trade.. There's no point using them in campaign against the AI but they're annoying for you playing against it!

Thank you! Cheers!

This is definitely the case, you don't even need that many really - they just deal so much damage!

Thanks mate!

Hello again!

Oh yeah! This mission is a real pain in the backside if you try to do it the proper way - I finally managed it after a 90 minute slog I think... it doesn't make for great viewing though xD

Yes indeed - grey warthogs!!!

Allows them to pack the water with destroyers and cruisers making it pretty irritating to get to them!

@@SavantApathy Yes, that's yet another benefit of stationing their important military experiments on an island!

Yeah it looks as if he had already landed when the tesla coil went off which confused me but you're right, he must still have been on his way donw!

Sometime repairing makes sense but other times I find it's quite boring and would rather just build a load more!!

Thanks dude!

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Well I don't seem to be the only one at least!

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He took a hell of a beating from those tanks 🤣

Hahaha good point... one is enough, a spare would be helpful!

And you my friend, hope you are well.

I did mission 13 here : th-cam.com/video/rCf8ZaJ3XhU/w-d-xo.html - if you follow the playthrough, you can complete the mission. It is definitely a painful one and you have to be quite methodical if you are playing on Hard. I don't remember even coming across any buggies in that mission? At what point do you have them?

@SavantApathy I deffo gonna check out. I'm sorry for the confusion, I mean THIS mission you did just now, had buggies in a village where engineers are. And they fuck up my commando untill I realised I had to take them out with rocket soldiers I'm stupid lol 🤣

Oh sorry, yes I understand you now! Yes the Humvee's can take out the commando, but the rockets are very effective against the Humvee!

Yes I see the silos now, it's good to know as you can time capturing them if it's money you're after! In some ways, it's good to know the little flaws in the game and how the scripts are working, but I do feel like it take a little bit of the magic away from the game... Some of the nostalgia comes from the constant frustration.

This reminds me so much of when I got the original game on PlayStation back in the day. The only way my friends and I could win was by doing exactly what you said. Sandbag our way up to the enemy base and use guard towers to take down the obelisk long enough to get an APC into the base and take over that way. We never understood the point of the helicopter and the "proper" way to beat the mission! I'm pretty sure you're correct with regards to the nuke, Nod would always hit the advanced guard towers, assuming you'd built one.

Why is it old things feel so much better?!

Apologies, I'll improve the mic volume - thanks for the feedback!

Thanks for you comment! I actually had no idea that's how the AI finance system worked... I knew it didn't work the way it's supposed to but I just assumed there harvesters just carried more or their building was heavily discounted. Topping off the refineries and silo is totally OP! Definitely makes sense as to why taking out the harvesters is the only method to cripple them! Great tip about the A-10s!! That would be a sweet sight to wipe the CY off the map quickly. I do love a good engineer rush; plus it feels like the easiest way to deal with some of the more defended nod bases!

@@SavantApathy It *would* be OP for the AI to have essentially unlimited money *if* it was free to build whatever it wishes, as the player is. Instead it can mostly only rebuild buildings and units that have been lost, with potential exceptions scripted in for buildings or units that do not exist at mission start (e.g. that Chinook with engineers) or things that cannot be rebuilt (e.g. those two Obelisks alongside the path your MCV comes in along). The point is that most things destroyed *can* be replaced, and so long as their Harvesters are not stopped, they will be replaced indefinitely. That's why my trick to outright destroy one of the two Construction Yards ended up not doing me any good. But interrupt the Tiberium flow, fight off the counterattack triggered by destroying a Harvester, and you'll find they can replace it once, maybe twice, but then the money has already run out, troops are not replaced, and buildings get sold instead of repaired, a sure sign that you have them on their knees. Just don't allow a new Harvester to be built and finish a run with the money the sales bring in, or the cycle repeats. :)

Yeah they really have a gift, it's always at the least opportune moment and always takes out something really damn useful! I'm glad it wasn't just me that forgot about the Power Plant!! I think you're right regarding the boats, no need to take them out. They seem to have some glitch where they lock on to something and if you take that unit out of range, they can't lock on to anything else - very helpful for me!

I think, if they hadn't of positioned it at the end of a large field of ore and gems, it's likely it would go unnoticed for longer.. I don't even know what happens if you leave them to build up; are they troublesome?

​@@SavantApathy Oh yeah, you should give it a shot sometime.

@@RickAndMorty-n8y Sounds like my weekend is sorted!

Haha yeah, cut it pretty close on this one! 1 more enemy unit and I'd probably have lost it.

Seth really doesn't like us... but I have a feeling we'll be alright ;)

@@SavantApathy *gasp*Like Kane, you can see the future;)!

@@solan7978 Kane LIVES!

acceptable is all dependant on who's accepting right... ;)

I got a little lucky with the barrels but yes, it definitely worked well!

You are completely right, it was the command post!!

Stick the spy back into the transport? Only way I can think of immediately failing.

@@SavantApathy Exactly! Someone posted a pic of the Spy reboarding the transport right before it sailed away. It was as if the Spy got out, saw the two dogs, and said "Oh, Hell no," and left!

@@solan7978 Hahaha yeah, and to be honest, I wouldn't blame the spy.. Those damn dogs!

Always known for their bed side manner 🤣

@@SavantApathy And their sense of humor, don't forget that!

I couldn't afford to promote him, so he was awarded a warriors death!

@@SavantApathy With that kind of attitude, I'm beginning to understand how Seth was able to work his way so high into Nod's leadership ranks . . .

@@solan7978 It's the Nod way apparently...

Haha yeah, it's setup that Kane has saved us from Seth trying to send us on a death mission but this is no easier!