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Interesting question and a fun discussion. Unfortunately one that probably can't ever be answered definitively because cohesive shield and spear weilding formations can be found among MANY Indo-European peoples, not just Greeks and Romans.

Short answer: No Longer answer: Still no. This has been debunked and so has all the other variations including that of Greek-Bactrians being mercenaries in a region far away from a rump state. The most likely answer is that it describes a local type of infantry that locked shields. In such an environment a Persian style "spara" pavise would have made more sense. In fact, a fresco from Noyon Ula shows infantry combat between a Tocharian and a Sogdian with exactly such a shield. No need to ignore what's available for some far-fetched and impossible hypothesis of supposed Westerners in a make-believe brawl between Romans and Chinese.

BC not BCE

This is what actually looks like China to me. I hope I can visit someday!!!!

Long way of saying, we don’t know.

(𝗣𝗶𝗻 𝗺𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗼𝗿𝘆, 𝗜 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵𝗹𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗴𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗺𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿-𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁𝘀) Nearing the end of Alexander the Great's reign, it should be noted that the Macedonian king organized an army of Asians called the "𝙀𝙥𝙞𝙜𝙤𝙣𝙞" meaning "imitation". They were armed and fought in the Hellenic art of war. These soldiers would range from a lightly 𝘗𝘦𝘭𝘵𝘢𝘴𝘵 to an armored 𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘦 and a sarissa-armed 𝘗𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘵𝘦 as similar as they are to their Macedonian counterparts. They would be used throughout the Eastern wars of the Diadochi (Successors), particularly paving way for the rise of Eastern Hellenistic Kingdoms such as the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and the Indo-Greek Kingdom. Point is, these soldiers probably weren't purely the soldiers or descendants of the Macedonian army of Alexander. The Agyraspides (the original Macedonian soldiers of Alexander the Great) retired someplace else in the mountains of Afghanistan. These soldiers were probably descendants of the Epigoni armies of the Eastern Hellenistic kingdoms who have retained the way of Hellenic fighting over the centuries that passed. Geographically speaking, the Indo-Greek Kingdom (the last Hellenistic kingdom that would last until 10 A.D) was the only closest Western influenced kingdom at the time, the kingdom of Bactria was destroyed in 130 B.C by the invading Yuezhi tribes after they were displaced by the Xiongnu. I think the Xiongnu King must've brought these soldiers from the Indo-Greek kingdom to fight as Hoplite mercenaries. And from the way they fought, they used a interlocking fish-scale formation. That to us, would be a Greek Phalanx formation.

My ancestor used to enroll people from all Empire provinces, from Briton Island to North Africa. Legionaries can have all type of hair, eyes color, nose size......

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Xiongnu are Mongolia tribe. Not han chinese

During that period Romans were still in the Italian peninsula... Its obvious that they were Greek decedents of Alexander's army..

constantinople is more comparable to xiangyang, which i often compared to budapest. used to be two cities on opposite sides of the yangtze river, both heavily fortified, and with their conquest by the mongols came the downfall of the song empire. now the two cities have joined, but the walls remain.

Chinese history is underestimated.

But u have to learn to pronounce the Chinese name more times before making a video. If not, I will not see it as a work well done because you didn’t do your ‘ pronunciation’ homework with effort.

Quite interesting theory, prefer the roman legionaire ones. Despite all comments make this theory more intriguing

Gaozu or Taizu is always the title of fist emperor in any Chinese empire. It simply means (great ancestor) the founder of empire.

I seem to favor the Greek/Macedonian version more than the Roman one. It could have been amazing if either Greece, Macedonia, or Roma had expanded all the way to connect with China and Asian Civilizations.

为什么没有中文字幕？

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Instead of focusing on layering defences and obstacles strategically like Constantinople's walls, the walls of Xi'an are used in defence with their sheer thickness. Xi'an's walls have almost the same thickness as it's height, making it more like a series of connected hills with cliff-faces surrounding the city, therefore it is near impossible to take the city by attempts of destroying the walls or attempting to blast through it. Even in the age of guns and cannons, the ancient walls of Xi'an still stands as effective defensive structure against ground invasions or attacks.

Both theories are plausible: Either the mystery infantrymen were captured Roman legionaries, or else they were native troops fighting in the classical Greek style handed down over many generations. But there can be no question that the tactics are of Greek or Roman origin, whoever was practicing them.Also, I wouldn't hang too much on the Han description of the shield formation as being like fishscales. It was a strange tactic they had never seen before, so to them either the testudo or the hoplite wall could look like the scales of a fish.

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in short No china and Rome Never actually met face to face. The only chance these two peoples ever met might of been threw Trade routes never in armed combat however. It is far more likely that the Alexanders successor kingdoms might of had more meetings with them.

I would love to hear how the walls withstood modern artillery. No other walls or fortifications in the history of warfare have managed to do that. Light artillery maybe, but the monster cannons that took out Constantinople would have breached them.

Rome came from the eastern dynasties originally. They were a defeated dynasty later established a foothold in the west for easier pasteurs to conquer. It's in the journals. They were the weaker of all the dynasties at that time. But powerful and not seen as barbarians in the west. They brought slavery, formations, yearn for gold, government and currency to the barbaric west.

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its impossible to know how people fought in that era there were no camera's maybe its was the romans maybe it were the greeks from alexander or maybe it was ERWIN FUCKING ROMMEL WITH A TIGER TANK who knows

it was the german army i dont have evidence dont bother to convince me otherwise i dont have common sense so you will waste your time by telling me that it is impossible to be nazis in that era

www.purplemotes.net/2013/01/01/gog-and-magog-alexander-wall-china/ The Ellines the Greeks were theere. Alexander the Great made it all the way to the Taklamakan desert where he closed the nefelim back in side the Tartarus Check remakes paintings and writings of the Arabs to this effect

Xi'an and constantinople is great city of history in the world

Never trust mongolian..

In 1998, historian Michael Wood reported locating descendants of Alexander's army in an isolated valley in northern Iran or Afghanistan. Based on Wood's reporting, my sense is that the troops in question were probably descendants of Alexanders men but the absence of hard data leaves this an open question. Interesting video! I would think DNA or mDNa testing would verify that the usual looking people in China are southern European rather than Chinese.

A simply DNA test of a large sample of the locals should determine Greek or Roman.

The later Hun armies were said to have the been armed with something akin to ancient grenades. The capabilities and the technological prowess of the Romans may have been underestimated by modern historians. It seems unlikely China would have allowed that technology to fall into the hands of the Huns so perhaps they obtained it from the Romans? The idea of buffer states/empires seems to have always been practiced in central Asia.

short answer: NO

that is why i love total war games

I literally Ould not hear the 4 minute or from 5:07 onwards

music too loud

Is that true that the Romans held the control of one port (I don't know the name) from India? If anyone knows the answer, tell me, please

Nazi Army was there with General Rommel.

Too far east for the Romans, too early. More likely they met a small Force of one of the Successors of Alexander the Great. Or Folks who had adapted Alexanders military Concepts. Like Bactrians for Example.

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So basically, we know nothing. Nothing new there...

Wudi fought and won in battle against Huns but never expanded their border to the north. It's Gobi desert. They just expanded little on the east and long road way to the west but did not maintain for long.

BCE is now so poorly accepted it is in fact pointless.It lacks any useful change, from the original, but simply change for insignificant reasons. If we are going to change really lets get something that’s generally new and servers a enhanced purpose;.

The Chinese was thousands of years ahead of the west, in man-power, in technology, in weaponry, in military tactics, in ingenuity, in ship building--- You name it, the East was superior.. The stupid clumsy Romans would not last 1 day against the Han Chinese

Your story is nothing more than a story with no facts what so ever of the Romans. Your telling half truths. You should be ashamed...

Han Dynasty? Roman Empire? Whose dick was bigger folks? Duke it out on the battlefield of a shitty comments section to decide once and for all exactly how puny & dumb the one you don't like was!