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@CLWill Is a PIP appropriate for what does not seem to be performance issues and are actually instances you were seeking answers and clarity your boss was not able to provide? Can one be delegated excess unreasonable duties not with in their job scope?

Amazing how 10 hour a week jobs become 40 hours a week with all the senseless meetings. The 30 hour workweek is much more possible when pointless meetings are cut.

Moral of the story: Fuck HR!

I have faced counteroffers several times in my career and debated it at length. The likelihood of taking a compensation bump now to stay and later face a scenario of little to no comp increases because you have put yourself in a situation where you reach the top of your pay band or they just skip the next cycle because of your last pay increase is real. They also know that you caved and would prefer to stay when given a competing offer and after meeting your demands, they'll look to restore the balance.

I would say being a part of a protected class can at least mitigate the motivation for retaliation in this process. Lousy excuses can do for at-will, but once you have a protected characteristic, it becomes a lot easier to correlate any write-ups with discrimination. That being said, I don't ever employ this strategy. It is unwise. Just take a new job, leave, and thank them for your time.

I was put on notice to improve or whatever they called it. It was basically a formality after I'd put in a grievance for bullying, to get me back on track again. The MD needed to keep staff; otherwise he didn't make any money. Companies don't need this bullshit; it costs them money. Be a huge pain in the arse for them; it's not worth it for them.

Never thought I wanted to lead... managed a team for five years... never wanted to learn to code... did coding and machine learning... life is weird and you follow weird paths throughout life. Cool channel. Glad to have found it! In my 30's and glad to learn some more from your experience!

Chris! I just found your channel and your youtube setup is killer! Hey I just scaled a channel to 29k subscribers and 4 million long form views, and I had some ideas on how you can grow this channel even more. Would love to share my ideas with you. Is that something you would be interested in hearing?

I tried to tell this to someone. She tried to start a war on our supervisor who had been with the company 25 years. She asked me would I make a statement supporting her issues with our supervisor. I told her absolutely not while our supervisor sucks you are going to have a target on your back HR does not care. Six months later she was pretty much forced to quit and the supervisor is still there.

My current manager has all of these faults.

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I am tempted to share this with my bad managers! Very well explained, thank you.

I’ve been on the receiving end of this as an employee. I ended up getting scouted at my last job. Definitely left on good terms and still feel nostalgic for it.

What do we do about them? How do we prevent them from enduring? We identified a bad manager. How do we now fix the problem?

Omg I’m glad I watched this video and there are sensible people out there and that you’re preaching this… fucking death by meetings….

As a professional I find the vdo lecture vry.effective.ln my opinion In PIP T&D play's important role through Various training Methodologies as per need.R&D also plays important role in boosting skill nd there by increasing efficiency and productivity in brief.Nice nd Informative Lecture in nutshell.Thanx.

...stuck at it for 17 years, because i kept getting the repeated business ...but it's been a decade since I left and they never found a replacement.

I will absolutely never give up our weekly catch-up. 10 people shooting the shit, connecting, sharing, debating. Money well spent. You’re just a bad leader if you can’t get value out of getting people together.

I have never seen a PIP get used on actual incompetent unprofessional people. From my experience a PIP is mostly used to start a paper trail & get rid of someone they don’t like.

Solid advice!

I have someone that I work with in a senior role (that I don't role up to) that embodies every trait you described and has constantly hurt our team morale because of this over the few years I've worked with them. I've felt no way out because of it and feel as though there's no where to turn for help. Also on a side note, have you ever done audiobooks? You have a phenomenal voice for narration!

HR employees are grifter hacks. Anyone who has worked at a Fortune 500 company for longer than a week knows this.

Fantastic video😊

Dear Chris, you have an amazing channel 👍👍👍

Vry effective vdo lecture. Top level executives or managers r the backbone of any Sector or organization etc.They should understand the problems of the employees nd need to b humble.They should avoid self centred approach nd egoism as by doing this they affects the organization in negative way.Manager should be matured in my opinion as a professional in brief.Vry.nice tips nd inspiring too.

I was putting on pip because I said to my fu….ck manager : I don’t like the way that you talk to me

This video is misleading and does not reflect the reality of how PIPs are applied. The vast majority of companies that put people on PIPs simply using it as pretext to get rid of someone they dont like. Rare if at all do managment actually provide concrete evidence to supporty their accusations in the PIP - making it assuredly false and without merit. This speaker is a textbook corporate representative and should be ignored. If you are put on a Pip, ask for evidence that shows the accusations in a concrete way. 99% of the time they will fail to do so. Ignore the PIP, and if you get terminated without just cause, sue your employer if your country has laws that allow this. There is zero reason to stress about a PIP. In virtually all cases, management will terminate you even if you did succeed at the goals.

How do u build a relationship

In my experience, HR is the lawyer for bad managers

You are wrong and misleading the audience. HR is not there to keep the peace. They are a company instrument, there to collect data on you for when the employer wants to fire you. They collect that data so they have proof, to build a case against you for your termination, so they easily win the court case. Do not believe any other claims about HR working for you. They are false.

I recently had heat exhaustion from hogging mud for bricklayers and woke up the next day exactly were I parked my truck late for work thinking I left my wallet in my buddies car and got a message I was fired. I realized something wasn't right and went to the emergency room. Now I'm wearing a heart monitor without a job and don't know what to do since I haven't heard from the employer after contacting them and telling them what's going on.

A manager leaving glass on floor to see if staff is lifting it and if they don't spot it well they get reprimanded.

This is what I keep telling my boss on our all staff weekly team meeting, of which content can be easily shared via share drive. My boss said all staff meeting helps improve team building. It will not unless every member takes ownership on their job and gets it done correctly and timely with or without regular meeting. Some people like to call up others for meetings all the time without having specific agenda to make them look very busy so they can get good performance appraisal. They are stealing other people’s time to earn their own credit. I hate those selfish people.

These are pure golden nuggets here, William. You got a new suscriber!

This is the most on point video about bad managers. It deserves a lot more views.

Someone calling a meeting "tomorrow at 9am" sounds horrible too 🙂

I wholeheartedly agree. And I'd further add that when you're leaving a company (by your own decision or otherwise), always decline to do an exit interview. Be polite (or silent), but just don't do it. There is never an upside to the employee--HR is not going to give you your job back, and they're not going to give you a raise or remove your manager. At best, if you're lucky, HR will receive the exit interview neutrally. However, any information obtained can and may be used against you. It's not worth it. Just say thanks but no thanks, and move on.

I learned a lot in this job and genuinely like my sup. But body blow #1 was when their insurance no longer covered my area. Got to travel 2 hours round trip for medical care. Ah, well. Signed up for a virtual job fair for a nationwide employer that will cover my area. I still can telecommute, and the office is three blocks down from where my reporting office is now. As someone said PIP = paid interview period😂

In last March, I was placed on a PIP for the first time. I was very shaken by it and I tried to do better in my job. Unfortunately I lost the job a month later. I'm currently still struggling to get a job right now.

let them fire you then collect unemployment

This one I find interesting. You are a huge proponent of not having useless meetings. So if we know the outcome before the meeting begins, why are we meeting? I know I'm probably being too black and white here, so what am I missing?

HR's are good for nothing ...

When ur more talented then this situation arises their is never a performance issues it’s just making employees silently resign job😂😂

A PIP is your company giving you 30-60 days notice of your termination!

Yes because the people who already may be feeling betrayed or abandoned by the company and maybe doesn’t trust them is gonna wanna trust them or just trust someone else with their personal belongings…if I’m not coming back I’m not leaving them and if they’re mine then the company nor anyone at the company should be touching what’s personally mine…that to me is a violation…most people don’t like strangers or coworkers touching their personal belongings as far as I know

Just like a hoover vacuum cleaner

So true

Did you apply this on some company? I agree with the concept but thinking this "we are going to discuss this issue tomorrow at 9, be there if you care" demand a huge maturity from everybody

Hey Chris, quick question. I am in the United States. A couple months ago I ended up quitting my job while on a pip. If you could please answer whether my former employer would reveal to the new employer about the pip during background/reference check? I’m worried that a pip would hurt my chances of landing my next role.

Always perfect..thanks