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@e2kgnetwork701 always good talking points to discuss!

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So one thing is that that discussion and description only applies to the XCloud version, and is not necessarily representative of running your app in the Cloud on another service. Microsoft owns the same infrastructure that XCloud runs on top of, and so the ability of a multi-market, multi-domain trillion dollar company to add infrastructure level automations and enhancements is not necessarily the same thing a Boosteroid or even an nVidia can do, b/c they do not own the entire stack. Also, listen to later in the video when she talks about optimizations for running your game in XCloud via the access of additional APIs, which are XCloud specific and not part of the traditional development production. What she said is that they would bring a game in running on a phone. Not that the game was the equivalent of Steam Deck-verified, but that it ran. In order to provide users a Cloud experience that doesn't rub off on them as being non-complimentary to the brand, you'd want to optimize. Not saying that is a ton of work, just saying that it is not zero. The main thing is, we got hung up, myself included, on making the data-point from the survey about the associated engineering LOE. The survey question was just about what platforms a game is targeting; which means they have designated that target, have some Epics and user-stories associated with that topic, have intention to test a deployed executable in that environment or something that simulates it. It was just asking on a per project level, is the Cloud a deployment target, and the results were that it was not, at least in lesser numbers than years past. Meaning they had no intention for the game to be ready to run in the Cloud. Remember that XCloud, at the time this survey was written, only applied to games in Game Pass, as XCG is only available to GPU subscribers.

Thanks so much @warawana! Always glad to see you come through and watching the show regularly!!

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Thanks so much. I value our exchanges and voicing our differences of opinions and showing others that you can do so and still keep things respectful.

Our most sincere appreciation for your kind words.

Will def swing back to provide a more thorough answer, but my "getting ready for work time-compressed" answer is "not zero". In the great debate of what is going on at Microsoft versus what is going on at Sony, the SIE games that are the blueprint are incredibly beautiful and well-executed craft, but they are, in SW terms, a lower level of complexity than what MS has been doing with Halo Infinite, with fewer requirements, and a lesser overall yardstick to meet, and inherently drives a less complex code-base and SDLC. One can then argue whether it is better to do a simpler thing with perfection, or to do a thing of wide breadth of complexity so-so, or even, arguably, poorly WRT Halo Infinite.

@@e2kgnetwork701 My comment was directed to the couch co-op issue. Not impossible to implement but feature parity among the versions was something 343 had to give up at some point and co-op had to be removed from the project.

@@PurpleWarlock Absolutely. Implementing a feature across multiple operating environments, each with their own dynamics of software permissions, differences in hardware, abstraction layers, and delivery dynamics (how does couch co-op handle input latency in a Cloud-delivered medium vs on-prem? Do multiple controllers even connect to a single Cloud instance, etc.). The cost of the multiple implementations, cfg management, maintaining parity, addressing the bug-fixes...it all mounts up and at some point you have to decide to fish or cut bait.

Ton of insight here and a lot of things I was not aware of! Thanks so much for the feedback!!

The other stuff is good too, but I wanted to hear about the renewing Dark Matter stuff.

Sorry it took so long for us to respond. It's been a busy two weeks getting the network off the ground. It's an interesting theory, and would in some ways be akin to the relationship between Nintendo and nVidia with the Switch, although in that relationship, there is no branding participation by nVidia. But I think if there was any primary branding partner deal, the initial teaser would have indicated it? IDK; I'm sticking with the thought that this is a complete dive-in with Atari coming back to the console wars; otherwise it would seem they would not have made a big deal about it and would not have made the announcement in the midst of E3. If it is something less than that? Soooooooooo disappointing.

Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I've been thinking recently on how much negative opinions against trends in gaming seem lack historical context. Like I cannot imagine what people would have against an Atari comeback, given their history. Much like I do not understand how some gamers don't like PC's getting a game labelled as an XBox exclusive at the same time as the XBox launch, when the whole reason (originally) to fall in love with the XBox brand was because it was the console being made by the champions of PC gaming. But I've been trying to remember that a whole new generation of gamers have entered the culture in the last 16 years since the original XBox launched and they may only think of XBox consoles with no connection to the legacy of PC gaming. Point being, I have to realize that I guess there are a lot of gamers who did not directly experience the legacy of Atari unfold in real time, and may see this as a game publisher entering the hardware market, and have a fear that such a move could indicate a publisher trying to force its vision via a hardware platform on the rest of the industry. Seems unlikely, and a bit of FUD, but there it is (or might be). I grew up a Sega loyalist, and still gravitate towards hardware and content that mirrors what I perceived as the Sega approach to gaming. That being said, I'm actually ok if they do not rejoin the console market. That time was here once, and it was wondrous for what it was. But history and the world decided that there should be a change, and I do not want the Sega legacy sullied by a misbegotten attempt to re-enter the hardware space. I'd like their retirement to remain in place and for them to continue being a great publisher.

I will admit that my comment was meant as a characterization of how that game is popularly regarded, not my own direct experience. It's nice and interesting to hear that someone has a different opinion. Guilty pleasure?

Thanks so much. You've been a big motivator to us to keep going. Please feel free to let us know if you'd like to guest on an episode soon. We'd love to have you!