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Timber BoatWorks
Canada
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2022
Designers, manufacturers, and builders of wooden boat kits. Timber BoatWorks specializes in Stitch and Glue construction, and cedar strip construction of wooden boats, kayaks, canoes and paddle boards.
We offer instructional videos on how to build using wood, composites, fibreglass using basic and advanced techniques. We also offer advice, services and products for repair, custom building and refinishing.
Based out of Edmonton, Canada, we continue the lineage of stitch and glue, cedar strip and skin on frame kits that we began manufacturing in 1955. The boats were adapted and designed through the mid 1980's into the stitch and glue constructions you see in the videos. This year we have designed three new kayaks, which include the Orca 16, the Anuri 16, the Trillium Expedition and the Quick Build 16.
Our company is in a constant pursuit of high performance, durable, unique and iconic kayak, canoe and paddle board design for you to build your own.
Handmade. Adventure Ready.
We offer instructional videos on how to build using wood, composites, fibreglass using basic and advanced techniques. We also offer advice, services and products for repair, custom building and refinishing.
Based out of Edmonton, Canada, we continue the lineage of stitch and glue, cedar strip and skin on frame kits that we began manufacturing in 1955. The boats were adapted and designed through the mid 1980's into the stitch and glue constructions you see in the videos. This year we have designed three new kayaks, which include the Orca 16, the Anuri 16, the Trillium Expedition and the Quick Build 16.
Our company is in a constant pursuit of high performance, durable, unique and iconic kayak, canoe and paddle board design for you to build your own.
Handmade. Adventure Ready.
Fiberglass Y-stern Repair: Hull Exterior FIberglass and Paint
This is the final video on the rebuilding of the y-stern fiberglass canoe. This video has guidance on fiberglassing the hull exterior with epoxy and 6 ounce e-glass. The hull has to be sanded, faired and primed before paint. Since there was no structure to the hull originally we will add two new layers of 6 ounce fiberglass. Fairing and body filling is done with epoxy and glass bubbles and sanded smooth before the primer is applied. Two coats of Interlux Prekote Primer were applied to the hull with an HVLP sprayer.
0:00 - Introduction
0:16- Sanding and Vacuum Hull
0:32 - Adding 6 ounce e-glass to hull
0:44 - Removing Amine Blush
0:48 - Adding the Keel Fiberglass
1:37 - First coat of Primer
2:14 - The hull is block sanded smooth
2:20 - The second coat of Primer
2:38 - The interior is primed
2:51 - Beginning of Project
3:12 - End of Project Result
#diy #fiberglass #repair #boating #canoe #boatlife #painting #spraypaint @WestSystemEpoxy @interluxpaints
0:00 - Introduction
0:16- Sanding and Vacuum Hull
0:32 - Adding 6 ounce e-glass to hull
0:44 - Removing Amine Blush
0:48 - Adding the Keel Fiberglass
1:37 - First coat of Primer
2:14 - The hull is block sanded smooth
2:20 - The second coat of Primer
2:38 - The interior is primed
2:51 - Beginning of Project
3:12 - End of Project Result
#diy #fiberglass #repair #boating #canoe #boatlife #painting #spraypaint @WestSystemEpoxy @interluxpaints
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Lightning 17 Build: Deck Hardware and Finish
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In this video we are finishing off the Lightning 17 kayak build with the deck hardware and hatches. For a full tutorial on how to install the seat and deck hardware they are available under the Solace 16 build playlist. This kayak too about 3 weeks to complete and weighed 43.7 pounds at 17 feet long. Thanks for watching. Handmade. Adventure Ready. www.timberboatworks.com/collections/touring/pro...
Lightning 17 Build: Graphite Coating and Varnish
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In this video we graphite in epoxy coat the hull and varnish the craft. Polyurethane marine z-spar varnish is applied with a sprayer for the smoothest application. Tips and guidelines are given for the application of the graphite coating and the varnish. Handmade. Adventure Ready. www.timberboatworks.com/collections/touring/products/lightning-17
Lightning 17 Build: Deck Stain and Fiberglass
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This is the third video in the Lightning 17 build series. In this video we stain the deck with aniline dye and fiberglass the deck to the hull. It is best to add water to the aniline dye stain so that we can build the desired tint and opacity of stain. Stain right out of the container is often too dark for the desired design since epoxy will also increase its depth. Clear laminating epoxy is ap...
Boreal Designs ABS repair #diy #kayak #repair #professional
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This kayak was damaged at the rear cockpit from a heavy impact. There are large cracks and micro cracks through out the damaged area, so fiberglass with Structural Acrylic Adhesive is applied to the underside of the deck and filling the cracks. ABS and HDPE plastic are resistant to adhesives, not all adhesives are compatible with plastic so we must use a structural acrylic adhesive or formulate...
Lightning 17 Build: Fiberglassing the Hull
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In this video the hull is fiberglassed and the deck is laminated to the hull. The second video of the Lightning 17 build series. This video has tips and advice on fiberglassing with epoxy for a clear finish. The footbraces, bulkheads and hull reinforcements have been done before the hull and deck are laminated. Additional videos on how to install the footbraces, bulkheads and seat can be found ...
Lightning 17 Build: Assessment of Repair
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Anuri 16 Carbon Fibre Kayak Kit Stability Test
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Welcome our New Kayak Design #diy #boatbuilding #epoxy #boat
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Anuri 16 Carbon Fibre Build Your Own Kit
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Cedar Canoe Yoke Thwart and Seat Install
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Cedar Canoe Refinish: Spraying Marine Varnish
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Quick Build Spraying Polyurethane Varnish
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Sanding, Staining and Barrier Coating a Wood Kayak
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Quick Build Stitching the Hull and Bulkheads
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Quick Build Stitching the Hull and Bulkheads
Quick Build Fiberglassing the Underside of the Deck
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Quick Build Fiberglassing the Underside of the Deck
Soo, are these thermoform kayaks strong enough to use on low rivers and creeks? Im thinking about one for camping. most of the streams are pretty calm but have low sections with rocks and gravel you have to slide over. I have a poly boat for the severe rock drag trips. But could i get away with a thermoformed boat for camping trips where there might be some dragging and minor rock bumps? Or are they strictly for deeper water and soft sandy shores?
ABS boats are more durable than HDPE (polyethylene) boats because they are flexible and way lighter. ABS has more flexibility than HDPE so impacts do not shatter the surface. You can see in the video how much the ABS bent before failure. This boat was in a roof rack and hit a concrete parking structure, this is not a regular situation or use for this boat. Deltas specifically are build very well, durable, UV stable, ultra light and high performance. This is not the case for all ABS boats. boatcraft.com/collections/delta-kayaks
Paint the inside with what?
Interlux Interdeck Grey boatcraft.com/products/interdeck-non-skid-paint?_pos=1&_psq=interdeck&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Any chance you can leave a list of the products you used?
West Systems Epoxy. 1708 Biaxial Fiberglass. White Gel Coat.
Great vid! Used it to get comfortable with the process and was able to perform a tricky repair on my Eddyline where the coaming was splitting from the hull. However now I'm looking at picking up a Hurricane that was previously repaired with fiberglass patches and one of them is on the outside and ugly. Can you clarify what kind of paint you used to pretty up the hull? Is there anything available in cans that would give similar results? I don't need it gorgeous, just not a huge yellow patch. Thanks!
The paint used in the video is for commercial use, it cannot be retailed. The issue for rattle can paints in general is preparing the plastic to receive paint, since plastics are non porous and non sticking by nature. It would depend on what fiberglass and resin was used as well, automotive polyester like bondo will not adhere to plastics long term. Be cautious when buying boats that have not been professionally repaired. I am using a specific acrylic adhesive from the manufacturer that is formulated to bond to plastic, not polyester resin or epoxy for instance.
Thanks so much for the video! I am going to attempt to repair two minor cracks on my Delta... a small crack in the deck behind the cockpit which the above technique should work well for, but the 2nd crack is on the cockpit coaming and I'm unsure of how much fibreglass cloth to use here... should I just use a little on the underside of the coaming ridge to strengthen the spot, or wrap it around the side of the coaming so it is on both sides of the crack?
If you are injecting the acrylic adhesive into the crack from the underside and filling the joint completely you do not require fibreglass on the outside. If you are not able to adhere the internal crack surfaces we do want fiberglass on the top and bottom of the crack. Generally we do not want to have a visible repair, which leads to painting if you are having adhesive exposed to UV.
Nice. The patch you put inside, is that with epoxy too or polyester resin?
Epoxy through 1708 biaxial fiberglass.
Absolutely gorgeous. Bravo! 👍👍👍
Thank you. A different look at customizing a mahogany kayak.
How many hours into the project?
This one was 60 hours. The extra carbon fibre took time to get right.
Thanks for the info. Would it be sensible to coat the whole hull with this? I am building something quick and dirty now, and this looks good.
The graphite coating is not structural, its only to reduce deep impacts and scratches. The graphite isnt a filler so it just duplicates the fiberglass surface and texture below. It could be used as a water proof barrier.
@@timberboatworks I think adding scilla to the graphite and epoxy mix increases strength as well. But my goal here is to coat a already fiberglassed hull with three layers of epoxy. So I can get away with paint or varnish for uv protection. I happen to live in a place where epoxy is much easier to get than marine paint.
Thanks
Which gauge stitching wire did you use?
0.032" stainless wire. Copper wire has become too expensive to be used in repairs and constructions. This wire is sourced from the concrete and cribbing industry. Its cheap and easily sourced.
0.032" stainless wire. Copper wire has become to expensive for constructions and repairs.
Thank you. Very informative. One question still remains. Exactly how do you determine the location of the bow and stern seats? How far from the bow and stern are the seats located? I also noticed that your seats are fairly low in the canoe, I know that the low center of gravity will increase stability but as a senior paddler I can't help think that a higher mount would be more comfortable. Your input please. Once again thank you
The hull design will dictate the location of the seat, if you are unsure of the location a 1/3 and 2/3 method can be used for approximate positioning and then small adjustments can be made off this concept. We do not want to move the paddlers too far to the rear of the canoe because this will shift the weight of the load in the canoe which can affect performance. The paddlers should be kneeling when paddling for the most stability and power, seating that is too high will make the boat unstable unless there is enough weight in the boat (gear, people, etc.) to compensate for a top heavy load. It is paddler position vs. draft of the hull that calculates stability of any craft.
Can a roller be used for gel coat if sprayer not available
Gel coat contains styrene which dissolves foam. If you purchase solvent resistant rollers they can be used but will leave significant texture that would have to be sanded and cut/polished away after. Bristle brushes will also leave some texture. You can spread gel coat with a squeegee or trowel if the surface is relatively smooth, if not a bristle brush has to be used.
How long between coats were you spraying?
A picture is worth a thousand words! Thanks!
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What are advantages other than looking great?
Graphite undercoating is an hard slippery surface, so rocks and other sharp impacts do not penetrate deeply and potentially damage the fiberglass hull and it also reduced resistance in the water making the craft more efficient. The cost of doing the coating is about $15 and it greatly increases the lifespan of the hull.
Why didnt you use fine line tape? The demarcation line would be a lot thinner where it meets the varnish.
I haven't worked with line tape in the past but I am certainly willing to give new techniques a try. The electricians tape has a higher edge and can handle the heat of the epoxy as it cures without bleed through. The three coats of graphite powder in epoxy are about 1mm thick, the three coats of varnish are also about 1mm thick. I think its a good idea and I will give it a try. Thank you for the idea.
@@timberboatworksFine line tape is a plastic strecthy tape used in automotive painting to demarcate lines, pin stripping etc. I used it in the past on waterline separation, boot stripping and when i epoxied the upper hulls on small boats. It is not a cheap tape but boy it is effective......good luck....by the way the black bottom paint looks great with the upper hull natural. I may try this on my S&G build this spring. How much graphite powder(% to epoxy) did you use for coating the bottom...my boat is 16ft, 25" wide.
@timberboatworks what's the purpose of the graphite? Is that the same stuff that people use to lubricate locks?
She held up pretty well. Does the epoxy soak through the paper and cause a problem if you spill?
Yes. Regular paper will allow some epoxy to transfer. Wax paper or butcher paper (as seen in the video) has a wax coating that resists epoxy. Its always best to wipe up epoxy drips with acetone even on the paper.
Can full boats be painted with epoxy?
Yes. Epoxy will offer water proofing depending on the quality and type of plywood. Fiberglass with epoxy will add strength and durability. Epoxy still needs varnish or paint to protect from UV damage.
@@timberboatworks awesome, thanks so much! Did you have to thicken this epoxy at all so it didn't run/sag?
Total weight?
36 pounds. 16 feet in length, 22 inch beam, 275 pound carry capacity. www.timberboatworks.com/collections/touring/products/solace-16ex
The varnish really made the carbon fiber pop!
Absolutely, any excuse to use carbon fibre is worth it. Its just thin application of polyurethane varnish for UV stability. Thank you for the comment.
This has got to be the best kayak repair video I have seen yet.
Thank you. I hope that it has been helpful, there will be more repair and build videos in the future.
Decent. Nice lines.
Yes, this model is far more aggressive than our other kayaks. We are looking into a skin on frame conversion for this kit as well.
First rock on that canoe would have me bawling lol. Nice application.
Sadly this canoe was lost on the highway on its way back to the client. The stem on the bow was crushed. The client has since fibreglassed and varnished the damage. Thank you.
Not long enough video guys.
I promise there is more to come for this Quick Build 14 as we get set to release this new design. Thank you.
@@timberboatworks I'm suggesting a showcase trip up to the canoe circuit in Lac La Biche featuring your products and builds. Lovely scenery, great fishing, and epic wilderness. I'll chat more in person in a few weeks, got some ideas to run by you. Love your builds so far.
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So does the final layer of gelcoat need the wax additive or can you simply put paste wax on top of non-wax gelcoat?
If you are looking for a smoother application of gelcoat with less refinishing then air dry is added to the gelcoat mixture during application. If you are creating a air tight barrier other materials like wax, plastic, tape, acetate, pva or wax paper can be placed on the surface after application. This will leave far more texture and will require more sanding instead of just polishing the surface.
@@timberboatworks I am looking to refinish/refurbish a kayak which has scratches down to the fiberglass but I don't know if I need to buy both gelcoats (with and without wax).
Waxed Gelcoat will cure hard every time you add the catalyst. This means that every layer that is applied must be scuff sanded and sovent wiped to remove the wax on the surface. Unwaxed Gelcoat can be applied in multiple coats and on larger surface areas because each layer remains tacky until the final air tight barrier (as mentioned in the previous comment) is added to force all the lower layers to cure (this is called "kicking down.") If you are new to applying gel coat purchasing a waxed gelcoat will generally be easier to use but will require the sanding and de-waxing step every coat.
@@timberboatworks Okay, thanks!
Firstly I know virtually nothing about fiberglassing. A boatbuilder who builds kayaks as well, was complaining to me when I asked about that sort of thing, about people coming in for him to refurbish their skis who have done DIY repairs on their skis hull outside who used the flowcoats that have the wax. He said they go yellow over time and it gives more work to fix.
Great video. After being impaled by a submerged root I'm faced with a similar repair. Are the stitching wires composed of the same plastic material?
No they are a thin gauge steel wire so that the adhesive doesn't glue them into the plastic permanently. Zip ties and other things can be used, but they are difficult to retrieve once the inside is fiberglassed.
@@timberboatworks Thank you for clarifying that! I wasn't sure whether or not the ties stayed in or not after the gluing. I assume you pull them out with pliers?
Was wondering how I was going to finish mine. Thanks for the great idea.
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Is there anyway to repair a punctured hole? I have a 12.10 with a 3" to 5" hole and some cracks.
Yes, we sell a Delta Repair kit that has the glue that i've used in the video along with fiberglass. Its easiest to try and use the broken pieces of thermoform from when the hull was damaged. Molding new pieces is challenging. A pure fiberglass repair can also be done if the thermoform is prepped correctly and the correct adhesive is used.
How would ABS and Acetone applied perform compared to this method? Seems the fiberglass method won't hold up as well and even plastic welding is a better method, especially ironing in stainless steel screen over the breaks.
Looks great though, nice work!
Generally ABS is very flexible. Since the material is fractured and kinked the load has to be backed by another material internally. A layer of ABS behind the damage would work, but does need to be moulded to shape and will add weight. I saturate 6 ounce fiberglass with the Delta manufacturers adhesive so that it remains thin, light and smooth. We dont want any sharp edges inside the bulkheads that could damage gear. Thanks for your comment.
We are watching this video on repeat as we try to diy repair ours. Thank you for the clear video and instructions!
Thank you for watching. As long as you are using the correct adhesive for ABS plastic your repair will be a success.
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6" fiberglass tape would leave less rough edges
So nice, I can’t put it into words
Thank you, we are very invested in the quality of our kits. If you'd like to watch our other tutorials you can see they are easy to build and perform well.
Mad skill..
Thank you for your comment. All products are available through our site. Boat Kits are now on sale 20% off.
amazing.
That is an amzing look, with the carbon fiber resin. Is that do-able by the average home woodworker?
Yes absolutely. We sell the 3K carbon fibre twill through our online store, it can be added to any kit. The only word of caution is making certain that the carbon fibre is fully saturated, as mentioned in the video so that the epoxy can be sanded smooth for varnish. Kits are now on sale 20% off.
Well of course you can spray but marine varnish is usually flammable. So you know you need that precaution. I no longer brush the stuff. I roll it on then it self levels
Both roll and tip and spray applications work well with varnish. There is always some risk when it comes to chemicals and solvents in enclosed spaces. Protect yourself accordingly.
Just buy a fiberglass hull.
In a few days there will be a video published on how to repair fiberglass kayaks as well. Thank you for the comment.
Fiberglass is lighter & stiffer, but ABS boats are less expensive and more impact resistant (but obviously not impact-proof).
Junk thermoform.
After an auto collision...c'mon man, get real. In how many pieces would FG have been all over the ground? ABS is strong and flexible enough to have lived through this.
Excellent workmanship
Really nice job on this, I have a repaired a few cracks in deltas, but I am far from professional. They were plenty strong but not as pretty as this. Well done.
Great site ,have used these guys for many years ,great products and great service
howd it crack like that?
The boat was in strapped in a roof rack when the owner hit another vehicle with the boat. The boat was overhanging so it took all of the force. The boat creased before it cracked, so the tension on the stern was high. This situation definitely shows the strength of ABS and that it can be repaired easily.
good god, that backround music is just *absolutely* horrible, nearly painful 😅. Glad the video is as educatice muted ;)
Ohh ....Artistic work!!
In my country we would not cover up marine plywood with black carbon fiber cloth. Transparent fiberglass show the beauty and the natural wonder the nature provides for us the form of wood made into plywood. You should go go ahead and use carbon fiber looks good on mistakes.
Hi Robert, We do have 16 other builds with the full wood look to show the beauty of the wood grain. We also get lots of questions as to customizations from builders as to carbon fiber and wood in combination, so we are just showing what it would look like for those interested. There are many ways in which someone can cover mistakes and carbon, paint, pigments, stains could all be options. Glad to hear that you still have wooden craft being constructed in your country as so many items are now so highly manufactured.
Зачем вы их в глянце делаете, это не практично. Разве только чтоб их хранить в музее за стеклом.