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what are you talking about!? if it was that ‘hip’ to be doing shitwork the magazine wouldn’t have shut down. the coordinators were overworked because there was a lack of support and resources, not more. surely it’s more hip to be involved in mrr in peak gilman times or the mid 90s. not 2016…. source: i was there between 2015-2021. no one destroyed the magazine.

@@samsicles_jr The coordinators were overworked? They certainly weren't doing more work than the founder and crew from decades ago. The contrast from the early years or the 90's compared to when the hipster posers ran it is astounding. They destroyed it by letting it die because the work was too hard for them and because they were clueless.

@@ChargerBullet presumably considerably more money in the 90s due to way higher readership / ad revenue. presumably a lot more shitworkers supporting coordinators. it’s not just the people in this video that work at mrr, there’s a host of people volunteering time that have been around since the 70, 80s, and 90s. the main coordinator in that video (effectively editor) worked hard and cared. source: i’ve worked for mrr for 10 years what killed the magazine is lack of funds, coordinators, house, changing times and tastes. there’s loads of magazines that were big in the 90s that aren’t here anymore. what would you like to have seen different in the latter years?

@@samsicles_jr That was my point. It was more work for them in the 90's because of the massive load of content coming in. I remember when they wrote that their printer said that they were at capacity and couldn't add more pages to the zine. And it was definitely harder to start the zine in the 80's and keep it afloat throughout that decade. Of course that was when they didn't have computers and the internet to make things easier. Just glancing through any issue of the 80's and comparing it to the later issues is astonishing how low it was allowed to get. Even worse, is letting it die because the work was too hard. And that was when they had two coordinators. But comparing it to other magazines of the past that have also ceased publication isn't really an excuse. For one, there is a difference between magazines and fanzines. The former are in business for profit while the latter never were. And other Punk zines that have went under were just ran by one person or a small number of people. Flipside was ended because of the owner's decision. MRR was always supposed to be ran by volunteers and to continue even after Tim's death. Face it, the younger blood were supposed to keep the torch alive but they failed miserably. There is no transparency or accountability from them. They never detailed what happened to the archival database they were supposed to do. I stumbled upon something from someone somewhere online that said that the work was outsourced to a company that then went under but kept the work and items. I don't know if that is true but with the silence and dismissal of the new people at MRR, who knows? They even kept quiet on the whereabouts of the new location of MRR house. They promised that shutting down the printed zine would mean that they would have more time and resources for much better things in the future, and that was a lie. What have they done? The thing is they didn't care to keep it in print and alive. I remember a few issues before they announced the shut-down reading a column from one of the older columnists (I forget which one) where he details some girl openly asking him why is it a benefit to have a printed zine in this day and age. I'd have to go back and hunt it down to give you the issue number.

@@ChargerBullet i don’t have a position i’m defending. i’m saying from experience that the coordinator in this video did work hard and did care. that is all. remember all shitworkers are volunteers. maximum still exists, if it wasn’t / isn’t meeting your standards, or you want to revive the print issues email mrr and offer your time to contribute.

I would say it is pro sex drugs and alcohol, definitely not the kind punks and hippies like. PUNK and HIPPY is over. It is too revolutionary and corporate. It is dead.

Punks and hippies bother people. They attack people who dont believe in God, they are sexist, extremist about race, it just isnt a popular label for bands anymore. They are all straight edge, on drugs or not.

Theyre extreme about government, voters, the overall feeling I get is that they are just trying to bust sex, drugs, and NEW WAVE as a corporation. NEW WAVE doesnt want to be corporate at all. SAME HERE.

Activism is not popular and PUNK and HIPPY is just extremely revolutionary and too macho to be rebellious. That is why its nonprofit.

Revolutionaries and rebels rarely mix. One group believes in God, the other doesnt and is into HARDCORE. It really depends on the hate group cult you are in.

Sorry, but its a cuckoo Nutzi hypocrite MAJOR LABEL hypocrite setup.

I sent you a letter. I'll continue to send you more ideas to improve your label and make it exclusive and p.c. and religious free hardcore and garage only. Punk and hippy is dead. Mentioning it is a nonprofit flop. Hippy is POST PUNK Alternative and over.

I posted the ideas. Focus on your label only, and design newsprints for hardcore and garage labels only to distribute. Dont reveal your distribution or booking info. to anyone but buying labels of exclusive newsprints or it wont sell.

Don't allow them to reveal the info. Everyone will be safer. PUNK and HIPPY is obviously dangerous p.c. and religiously activist straight edge shit that attacked NEW WAVE sellout groups in the past.

Cut off all media info. It's blowing all sales of NEW WAVE, and that's the direction HARDCORE and GARAGE has went.

Get a clue, government and religion is protest and activist crusades. It is STRAIGHT EDGE, the war on terror and a total occult.

They can't make anyone anymore Conservative, so the focus of NEO NAZIS and KKK is to just run big business to boot people into poverty so they aren't productive.

Wake up, they want to control women, make sex for free, and stop street drugs, everything else they failed at.

The goal is to make you addicted to meds. What better way than to force you into poverty and selective service?

Hey, everyone's been through it who is HARDCORE. Live with it fuckers!

Dude! Watch out, there is a real HOLY WAR, and KKK and NEO NAZIS are going as activists and protesters because they're hooked on an occult. They will kill you as a 501c3 punk and hippy band member or manager! DUDE! They run PUNK and HIPPY LABELS. They are FBI, CIA, and NSA agents too. I don't fucking care, it's just banned and totally dangerous and stupid. It's activism and religious protest governments, the Conservative Party in general. Dude, they are RACIST and genocidal ANTIRACISM, eventually they're going to kill you like they killed Hendrix and Marley for being corporate. Get a fucking life, you little terrorist and experimental, punk and hippy fags. They will kill all of you just for being Conservative threats.

Get a clue, PUNK and HIPPY is dead, it was a NEO NAZI KKK bipolar terrorist threat.

Anyways, dont worry about it, BIG BUSINESS is like that just to screw people up.

Everyone thought being Conservative was popular until they got date raped or lynched. Everyone tried out punk and hippy. Watch it, you will get there. It is a 501c3 terrorist occult.

It isnt popular, noise and ROCK N ROLL forms of HARDCORE XXX is.

Figure out why they are so MENTALLY ILL. PEACE PUNK. PUNK AND HIPPY is racist and antiracist pro government pro religion pro schizophrenic and bipolar corporate worthless garbage.

It is so racist, it causes antiracist genocide of the entire music business and attacks HARDCORE over and over again. It is a MAJOR LABEL in itself, a worthless one!

Look, its definitely causing terrorism, slightly. That's all Im saying. It is STRAIGHT EDGE, even the pistols and ramones started that way, on drugs or not, straight edge is uneducated people that wage war on drugs and terror. Final.

They are not only defamative, they are threatening domestic terrorism and affirmative action reactions from HARDCORE youth. Thats the way it is. I fought for HARDCORE too.

HARDCORE is powerviolence now, it is totally against punks and hippies. I agree. Even SPEED METAL is.

Look, I get what youre saying. MAJOR LABELS are NATIONALIST AND RELIGIOUS GOD BELIEVERS AND ACTIVIST TERROR. IT IS PUNK AND HIPPY, NOT HARDCORE. TRUST ME.

EMI CREATED REALITY ENTERTAINMENT, NOT ME. SEX PISTOLS WERENT REALLY RACIST OR ANTIRACIST. PUNK AND HIPPY IS GENOCIDAL MAJOR LABEL TERROR.

LOOK, NEW WAVE IS WHERE THE NEW HARDCORE IS. PUNK and HIPPY WONT GET A BREAK, TRUST ME.

SEX PISTOLS WERE JUST NEW WAVERS, (ACTORS) BUT WARNER BROTHERS BACKSTABBED THEM.

NEVER TRUST A PRO LIFER RELIGIOUS LABEL ON ANY SIDE. FIRST OF ALL, IT IS PUNK AND HIPPY FBI CIA AND NSA. THEY ARE STRAIGHT EDGERS. IT IS KKK and NEO NAZI because it is religious and activist political correctness, but white knights and black panthers quit all that, all ex-nationalist gangs did. They went into HARDCORE LIFESTYLE, not religions and activism. THAT IS WHY PUNK and HIPPY IS HARDLINE. It wont get released into a selling format, trust me. IT IS TOTALLY DEAD. NOTE: HARDLINE WENT MAINSTREAM ROCK. I'm not really into it. It is PCRM music, trust me.

To easily identify if it was stolen.

i get that but doesn't it damage the sleeve?

Yeah, it damages the sleeve. Tim wasn't concerned too much with the sleeves, obviously. The way I understand it, MRR headquarters were always open to punks coming in and perusing their collection so theft was always a concern. I remember reading years ago that some rare records were stolen by someone that visited.