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I agree with everything Marty says about Agile (with a capital "A"). However, I think he over-indexes on the "Product Owner" bit. It is just a role. Is it because it has the word "Product" in it? 🤔 Also, I don't think process can be always thrown away in favor of speed/innovation. Just like CI/CD is a process (which Marty seems to approve of), testing and verification is a process, code review is a process, blue/green deployment is a process. Yes, they slow things down. But for many products, you just can't fix it after release with any repercussions - so the extra time and effort for these processes is justified. Not every process is as stupidly evil as "putting coversheets on the TPS Reports". After a company grows to a certain size, policy and process play an important role - the leadership cannot be in the room every time a decision is made. Of course, process is often misused and overblown but so is product dogma. Building a product needs more than just sound product thinking or just good engineering - there are many different dimensions and viewing it from just one lens is a mistake.

There is a strong Dave Ramsey vibe coming through here. Saying "just make your teams able to release every two weeks" is as easy as telling someone that makes $300 a week to "save $1000 in a hurry". Disregards any regulations in the industry, ignores organizational silos, and relies on manufacturing boogeymen (SAFe, Agile, Europe, The US Government) to keep emotional binds tight. (shrug) Sadly, there ARE decent ideas embedded here; which I suppose is how book-selling consultants stay in business.

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How do you release once a day? You can't possibly be working on anything complex.

Amazing!!. Thank you so much!!.

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Bravo :) Merci pour le partage !

Product Owner part is pure manipulation. The fact is: 1. You can have a PO and an SM in your team and still deliver continuously 2. You can have a group of talented engineers that continuously deliver but the end result is not relevant to the market 3. Managing delivery is nowhere near to 10% for any role, it is more 4. Many big and successful companies in Valley have very well defined processes 5. The companies above have POs and PMs in their structure working very effectively 6. PO role was introduced with/by Agile and the role includes also Product Management responsibilities. It works the best for small teams, that's why PMs come into the play with the scale 7. PO is just a name, it is all about responsibilities. You can call it PM, or other names, however there are duties that should be covered by someone. In one of my previous companies (30K Valley company) PMs were acting more as Marketing Managers and POs were responsible for for customer relationship and defining features, as well as driving the delivery. At lastly, there is no universal recipe for success, you need to inspect and adapt.

The ten misconceptions outlined by Marty: 1. you need to solve a problem nobody has solved before 2. you need to spend as much time as possible understanding "the problem space" 3. you need to be an expert in the domain 4. you need to listen to your customers 5. you need to commit to your solution, and iterate until success 6. you need product owners 7. you need to come up with innovative product ideas 8. you need your engineers to focus on coding 9. you need to focus on creating a product your customers love 10. you need process people to grow your company

Great talk ❤ and many learnings

Too good, Thank you for sharing

I refer to that group of people that want to "productize" a process as the "methodology industrial complex". They can take something very useful and morph it into something that takes it completely away from its original intention and purpose. Every company and product team is different. Every set of customers is different. You have to be more in service to your team and customers and the problems you are solving than a slave to the process...

Marty you are the best! What happened with your voice???

Excellent keynote. Thank you for sharing.

Excellent .....as allways !

At what time did he hold this speach? (Year)

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This is Gold. Thank you.

Thank you for sharing! Very inspiring!

superbe, merci

Super présentation, très bon retour d'expérience.

Trop fière de vous ! Et tellement juste votre histoire, universelle des équipes qui marchent !

Bravo pour la présentation Léo et Martin, crystal clear ! 🙌 Et merci à la @School of Product pour l'invitation et la qualité de l'événement ! On remet ça bientôt ? 😉

@Pablo : tu cherchais un exemple mature et qui a résolu sa transfo et sa gestion de sa dette et de ses dépendances ? Il me semble que la SNCF est à un niveau de maturité assez élevée selon moi (tout comme ses filiales Kisio et oui) Comme toujours contenu passionnant. Merci pour le Meetup.

Great to learn about this!

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Oh non, le son c'est dommage

Vraiment excellent ce Oussama, super attitude :)

très bonne initiative😍😘