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i would buy one time the VM740ML and then replace the needle with an VMN20EB so i have the superb cartridge but use a needle i can buy on regular bases.

Very interesting. The spec sheet says the Xmr has laminated coils, but I've always read that it didn't because Shure was economizing on that cart.

They both have their individual merits, but I think the Shure just sounds more fun! Really brings out the tonality of the winds and brass. Love your classical selections. I try to listen to cart comparisons on other channels, but I can't tell anything listening to rock music. Classical music is so much a part of me that I can't imagine life without it.

I vote Ortofon. Sounds more like live orchestral music. Jico is more treble oriented, like some AT's.

The vlm sounds more refined, almost as if it had a line contact diamond. The xlm (I have both styli) is more robust but with a smaller dynamic range. I love this Sibelius work, by the way. Very moving. I believe it was written as an elegy to the dead of WW1?

Shure is so far away from Ortofon. The Bronze is not the best Cart against Shure, you should have choose the 2M Black LvB. Possible, that the differences would be not so big.

Which eqipment do you use, TT, Tonearm, Phonocable, Phonopre, Amp, connections cables, Speakers, speaker cables, powee cables, power distributors, Fuses etc? Without those infos there is no serious no audible judgement, sorry...

Well, actually no... 0.0001 inches = 2.54 microns, which in fact is less then a thickness of a shaving blade. The edge of Gillette shaving blade is 7 microns. The actual thickness of Microline/SAS (the same Namiki producer) is 75 microns. You are welcome.

I like the Shure with the Jico. It sounds more dynamic to me. I have one myself plus an At14sa with Jico and Stanton 681 with Jico and love them all. I have never been a big ORTIFON fan.

Sin haber dedicado más de 15 minutos a la escucha 540 seguro las otras dos no existe tanta diferencia a a 95 se le apelotonan las notas en pasajes complicados donde la la 540 sale con más aire 😊😊 ya tienes otro suscrito.

moi je possede une shure vn15mr mais pas de diamant !!!

This is a terrible record. In addition to the warp I see on every phonograph record played on the internet this one has the spindle hole off centered. The wow and flutter was more audible with the Shure cartridge than the ortophon. Warpage is probably due to the universal practice of stacking records vertically where they lean in each other. You can usually see the warp as the record rotates but if you can't watch the reflections. With a flat dosc they will not change as the record rotates.

V15/Jico by a mile! Sounds far more like real music and being there hearing it being performed. I'm curious how the combination would stack up against an Audio Technica ART9XI (which I prefer of three ART9 variants based on transfers I've heard).

Rapá... shure soa mais musical. Bom de ouvir com um bom fone planar magnético. 🇧🇷

Got a Shure V-14 mk4 , no stylus so got from LP Gear Jico SAS , like it. Wish I had NOS original. Have on old Pioneer V-15 mk5 with original stylus, low hours😊

I like sound of SAS more on this record. Unfortunately disc is offcentered

IMHO The 2M Bronze is a rock carriage. For classic stuff I'd prefer the 740 from AT. Anyway, even on this track I prefer the 2M bronze to the Jico.

Nice! Just the note: Bronze is not the top model of the 2M line, actually its rigjt in the middle, 3rd in both direction

In my opinion Jico is much better. Clear sound, deeper bass and trebles are not distorted.

Of course, I guess I’m a little biased towards Shure’s V-15 line….. I owned a few of them back in the 80’s. I now own all the V-15’s from 4 to the last model the Vx MR. Of course I’m running Jico stylus on them. I wish I had NOS Shure stylus’s to compare.

I appreciate your time in making these videos. They are interesting. Thanks!

IMHO…. I Feel the Shure V-15 is more musical and a wider soundstage as well as more neutral and uncolored. At times the 2M sounds too harsh and strident in the high end frequencies.

Empire is the best phono cartridge of the last century.

The red and blue sound pretty much the same to my old ears. Is this a case of the emperors new clothes ?

Both are made by the same company. Pickering being the name chosen for the UK market. Many of the styli are interchangeable between the Stanton and Pickering, as the bodies are the same. I agree, original stylus are REALLY hard to find now . Sadly that's the reason I have changed to a GOLDRING ELITE MC CARTRIDGE on my Pro Ject RPM6.1 SB TURNTABLE.

These both are with a long gone nude styluses, so this is just a nostalgia. I have one Pickering and a spare not used 625e stylus still, but originals are hard to find, with whatever-styluses it is not Pickering, it is whatever. Tried jicos and zafiras, tonars(=jico) etc but always disappointment. Even retip is not sounding the same.

Vi um outro comparativo em um outro video, onde uma OM5E soou melhor que a 2M Bronze. Mas neste video, me pareceu melhor a 2M. Estranho isso.

I still have my Stanton. Now being used with a Technics SL1200II.

No telling which stylus is more worn and how old the suspension is. I had a Stanton like that once but it was back in the late 70s some time. Pickering? Don't recall having one. I ended up using the Shure V15 series after that. For the most part. Loading has an impact on the Shure. Maybe on all those 47k cartridges but most consumer gear had no way to control the loading beyond the standard resistive value. Which could have impacted the response for the worse in some cases.

The 3000 certainly has a more refined sound. I find putting a Jico stylus on these old babies works wonders.

I have both cartridges and they still give me much pleasure. My turntables with this setup are the Thorens td160, 165 and 166 (an excellent match).

I preferred the Stanton. Both had a warm lush midrange but I think the Stanton had better treble. Sometimes the Oickering sounded slightly harsh in the upper registers of the flute. Both had excellent overall tonal balance.

The Stanton has more separation, but both have a nearly identical tone.

I am always amazed how such small things can bring us beautiful sounds. I liked the Pickering better.

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Where do u get nos vintage styli for the cartridges. I want a nos micro ridge for my v15 type 4 but I don’t want to spend 500

We need to get something going to let shure know we want more from them

While I really hate the mounting design of both of these cartridges, the Empire wins by a hair. BTW, I own an Empire 1000 ZE/X with the original stylus and it's one of my personal favorites from that same era.

I would like to thank-you for the extraordinary effort you put into this channel. It must take a lot of time and effort, let alone the expense of owning all these cartridges. It gives us all an unparalled insight into all these gems, old and new, without any personal bias and some great snap shots of the styli themselves. Bravo! 🙂

All three are excellent and still better than any of the modern crop. I still can't believe that Shure abandoned phono cartridges after spending decades perfecting them. Insane.

Que agudos dios mío!!! Sublime

To me the type V MR(the middle one) sounded the best.

95 has a lower compliance out of the three. 540 and 740 work best with low mass tonearms like sme mkiii. The loud horn parts sound louder with the 95, so my guess would be the tonearm is more than 10g?

Empire é a melhor

The v-mr micro ridge version from 1983 has the best resolution and the lowest distortion of all, the red v-xmr version sounds hollow.

The VM740 brings refinement in sound quality, enhancement in instrument separation and improvement in sound stage.

What turntable was used?

The 150SA is a bit lively and sonorous while the 150MLX is more refined and well composed. The choice greatly depends on the sound preference of the user. For me, I have the AT-VM740ML cartridge + stylus and the AT-150SA extra/reserve stylus for future use. Thanks for the comparison. All the best. Cheers!

The Type V's final version does sound warmer but less transparent than the middle version with the same stylus. Both MRs retrieve more detail than the hyper-elliptical version.

Was put on my Pioneer 518 when I bought it so long ago,lol