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@@fishman-qu7dp I don't know what recording software you use, but I usually just record at 1080p and it is in 1080p

Oh, I just checked your vid, it is 720p, it just takes a few mins for YT to compress it correctly

@@linuslucke3838 oh

@@linuslucke3838 i have obs studio, i assumed you used it too

You saw my Community post? Got a mobile BS EF DF

@@linuslucke3838 nice, feel like everyone's getting big combos again (someone got f 2 bs ef a few days ago)

@@user-qn3kk6jg6d I actually saw that (Had to do a small amount of research on some strats, but most stuff is just learning mobile GS mechanics and rest is just intuition and a few strats are described in the dictionary) You said under that it was biggest multiplyer WR, so is that mine now? F BS is usually worse then DF(though I think they had quite good BSs and I had JSC so it's close, also I think they had wrinklers on a pure CpS buff combo so if you count that that's way better)

@@linuslucke3838 guess it is now

@@user-qn3kk6jg6d what's CBAT WR?

There's alr glovemorel on f2? Or is it last row 2nd collum? I always just copied dvbtv's 2nd grail setup Well with the current combo I'm doing I'm going full whiskers because time(might switch to easy glov replant)

Oh, just checked the guide, it's f5(atleast I would count from top down, although bottom up is probably more correct from a code perspective) L exec by me then Good to know, if I go back to this replant strat I'll probably have a hard time to change that because I've done this setup forever now, muscle memory will probably screw me 0.01% is also how much easy glov replant is worse then hyperoptimized so I could have just done the easy setup the whole time

@@linuslucke3838 the garden puzzles community uses chess notation

@@truffflzz Now that I think about it, I assume the setup is maxed for 100% achivements, but considering I'm missing 17(18 at the time), one of which (L10WT) I'll probably never get unless there's a change to how WT work, a setup with a few extra glovemorel is probably better considering the really small diffrence beetween them

It's actually 3GC for WR, which is only possible with fortune after GCs(Or I guess nat+fortune/deorl BS CF) Or DF BS 2GC And that also assumes no lag

@@cookiemains Just did another combo, unrecorded(only took ~250GCs this time) No lag whatsoever, got CF first fthof, gambled the other 2 fthofs for BS, but didn't get it, so F 2BS(mines+alchemy labs) CF EF. Didn't use SF because not enough for it to be worth, 25.053 QaVgt. With flight I'd have had 2GC onscreen and SF, which would be 228.553 QiVgt(+probably a bit more from more EB rebuy)

@@linuslucke3838 so 200 quinvig is extremely possible

@@cookiemains 500 if +3GC, SxVgt if +4GC, but that requires deorl and fortune so you're more likely to get another BS instead Also you saw I got gen WR?

@@linuslucke3838 yeah, i messed it up the first time

​@@difrractsliver1031 Hey silver, I have replied to this comment with something What was the point here, testing YT hiding comments?

@@linuslucke3838 Can you please put the following text into the CCCEM's new Import Settings button? (it's in batch settings) v2.048/R/i:dtttb

@@linuslucke3838 Can you check out the comments section on this video for any potentially automatically hidden comments?

@@johnnycena1234 Yeah, I should really edit some out to make it look laggy

@@cookiemains This was quite rare but a few weeks ago I got a Deorl DH+Sweet on this save being 1 in 7m nat GCs which are way slower then scries

@@linuslucke3838 bruh

@@cookiemains also lately got setup from deorl BS DF (DF aura only being slotted after getting BS), and there was the clip of DH>deorl BS+CF for execution. Also have 7 sweet scries(just had one today) in my 80k casts and over 10 nat sweets in only 22.5k GCs In other words this save is RNG carried in any way other then how long Grail Combo took(then I got it twice in 3 attempts though)

@@linuslucke3838 i have nothing to say

@@cookiemains Just calced that my EF scry luck(70 or more in 80741 casts, consitantly 500 scries under average, and I honestly lost count how many it actually is, might be more then 70) is at top 1.1% aswell, and that's not including exec casts or scry mess ups

​@@truffflzz 2 GFD fthofs for octcast Although looking again, one of the GCs, the first GFD, died like right as I started clicking, so more like 5GC, though Grail-DF+6GC is what the combo should have been This exec didn't even feel that slow, don't know why that happend.

Would require good BS RNG and +3GC(so instant DF CF with deorl/fortune) for me. 6.5x seems a little high though, not every BS is x110. Also a problem is getting the nat spawns(It's like 1/600 and takes like 3 tulips sets each time), aswell as setup is F BS DF/CF instead of F DH/BS DF/CF.

@@cookiemains Might have just messed up a WR combo using this strat. Didn't get a DF, but got CF with two more success fthofs left. Normally I just click the others here hoping for extra BSs because I need them for a good combo but I click enter and confirm Dragons Fortune, and since I don't have much time to change it to Radiant Apitide, I just use SF and get EF for F 2BS CF EF 2GC. What do you know one of the GCs is a extra BS, which is enough for WR. Well I lagged out during rebuy anyway got like 3 clicks in time so that also ruins it. Probably because this was like the 3rd tulip set today and my laptop doesn't like me playing that much. (Took 1.2k GCs for the nat spawn, streak prevented BSs are rare)

@@linuslucke3838 rip, i should get finnless/gen wr soon so i can get wr all categories

strong grail

@@truffflzz I guess that works(That would make F 3BS CF EF a week strong grail though which is a bit wierd) As a L10 player, how do you feel about the fact you'll never be able to do this without losing a fthof

@@linuslucke3838 just waiting for cursed to finish the metascrying graphic

@@truffflzz That still won't get you this combo. Only viable with 3+ST. Isn't metascrying estimated to still be worse for CF odds then L2 GFD cancel?

@@linuslucke3838 whatever i can get ig, not starting a l2 save

where are you getting a full bs and another nat from

where are you getting a full bs and another nat from

You aren't doing that, you are getting a BS, then another one ~40 seconds later from the next GC. The half duration BS is then extended to ~83% duration by casting ST 3 times, which should be good enough to execute the rest of the combo with the DH you would normally have replaced by a BS. If you can get DH -> BS -> BS or DH -> x -> BS -> BS, you would have an extra BS compared to normal, so you would have a ~3% chance of grail+BS here, although it would still take around 2k hours on average for this since 2 consecutive BS while DH is active takes so long.

@@user-qn3kk6jg6d CCCEM always spawns extra BS with atleast 100% duration, so it looks wierd, but I would get 2 nat BS in a row, with maxed frequency they spawn ~40s apart

​@@josephradecki1414It would probably take even longer for grail+BS since every ~2h of GC clicks you have to regrow a garden of tulips, taking 2h, although this is idle. Also you probably want atleast 180% garden GC frequency instead of 150% for regular grail attempts. And you would likely also need F DH BS DF/CF setup combo if you want to replant(if you don't the execution would be alot easier though) For F 2BS setup is atleast F BS DF/CF, DH isn't enough

also casting fthof 14 times while costing no magic how convenient what upgrade does that?😯😯😯😯

This is the route video(as said in the title). I did this combo without cheating, it's the last video of my finnless playlist. The 3GCs from console are 2 naturally spawning GCs and 1 from the news ticker fortune and can spawn at these times, I used the console to simulate this.

​​@@chrisschultz7443 It's "only" 11 fthofs, and as said in the title I use a trick called GFD offset abuse. By casting GFD fthof alot of times at low mana, you can make the casts really cheap(espacially with Supreme Intelect and Reality Bending dragon auras). The problem is that you don't have enough mana and some of the GFDs fail. To get around this I quickly buy alot of Wizard Towers and refill my magic in the 1sec time frame beetween casting GFD and it actually casting the spell. That way the casts are still cheap and I have enough for them to go though. They also all cast at the same cast count, meaning they all give the same result(Building Special) To refill my magic twice, I use a carmalized sugar lump to clear the cooldown. Finnless rules ban using more then 2 refills, so they need to be used well

yup seems legit🙄

@@chrisschultz7443 I mean the real combo is verified as WR on the official finnless Cookie Clicker leaderboard, so yes, it's legit. You thinking it's not just because you don't know some strats isn't going to change that

I got a F DH BS CF setup on a regular grail attempt I did today(got nothing but also messed up and let a SE resolves so I lost a cast). For the setup I was missing the last Cookie upgrade and a few fortunes, but still wasn't even a TreVgt. So even with mokal swap, I'd still need 2 of those to get 1050(which would also allow triplecasting without natural mana regen) I don't think that less then 3ST is a good Idea though, as that means less time for the fortune to spawn. But I might start going for this now. I'll definetly also use this whenever a update comes out. Even without fortune, this would give alot of prestige just from Grail-DF.

I got an attempt after like 3h of GCs, didn't get fortune, and I also didn't get CF. But actually, I was on fertilizer the whole time lol, lost so much buff from the whiskerblooms. Lesson learned, atleast hopefully. The problem I have with this strat is the Setup Combo. I have to grow one set of tulips for gclovers, then another for whiskerblooms. Or get a setup without clovers aswell. Don't know what's better. Also not sure whether executing without a fortune is the right play.

@@linuslucke3838 probably could just use a full glover field

@@cookiemains that would be too early I guess. Maybe could do full keenmoss, get all seasonals, full gclovers, get setup, tulips with whiskerblooms

time for gcs (prob like 1-2h?)*chance for fortune (like 1/5) then the gc outcome stuff (too lazy)

​@@user-qn3kk6jg6dIn my experience from playing clickless F DH BS without gclovers takes more like 3-4h. Now whether it's worth executing without having a fortune yet and hoping it spawns, or ignoring it and waiting for another F DH BS, idk, but I guess it would take 10h for one attempt with fortune, excluding the time to set up. Then I guess it would be about 2% for grail. 500h of GC clicks and another 200h of setup time. More then double the time for a normal grail, but 5 times more cookies. This is a very rough estimate though

@@linuslucke3838 with dragon orbs or nah

@@user-qn3kk6jg6d with

idk since i migrated from website mobile to the official mobile port and since i left my laptop at home and I'm not at home rn

What do you mean? I couldn't rebuy because I had to click EF early because of the onscreen getting in the way of Dragons Fortune

@@linuslucke3838 as in selling yous and other expensive buildings to avoid getting a bad bs then getting them back later

Are you still going for WR?

@@linuslucke3838 you'll see

@@cookiemains That sounds like yes. I'm barely able to beat absol in 1 Combo(though not going for it atm), and since you're slightly behind after 2nd Finn you'd need 2 more atleast, but idk maybe you've already done one of them with the Speed of your Finn combos. Good luck on WR

​​@@cookiemainsAbsol said you got it? GG How much? Because I'm doing 3rd Finn currently expecting >100 UnQig

@@linuslucke3838 uh i got like 20 unquinquag because i messed up first attempt and just stacked way less gz

It's a very long process of scumming Carmalized Lumps every day, and using them to refill the cooldown of the grimore refill each day, and then spamming Stretch time or fthof when it's a buff I need, and then saving and waiting a day for another carm to grow, untill I have all of them for like 5h, stack goadzamok up for like 4h, then spawn as many GCs with Dragons Fortune (and Reality Bending) as possible and click the cookie. Absol(who has done 5 of these) has a tutorial on his channel(though it isn't all that optimised). This type of combo is only allowed on the general leaderboard, and not that intresting as all you do is wait for carms for a month, but it's technically the optimal way to play the game.

@@linuslucke3838 I might give this a go when I get stop playing as much because that’s not too much effort each day

@@s0lar1te Yeah, it's a really casual and not that skillinvolving(other then the execution) type of combo, but destroys anything else easily. That's why the finnless category exists, preventing more then 2 refills per combo. Good luck if you actually do finn combo, new competion is always good

Idk yet With another finn, same everything but prestige, I'd get to 17.7UnQig. I'd assume I'd make the missing 1.5 UnQig from higher BS buffs and building counts , but it would be close, alternativly, I find a Tredecacast and it's free WR. I'll definetly take a break from Gen for a bit. I'm a few lumps away from L20 Cursers on my comp save, might try some combos there to see the diffrence(If I grail that's also WR there, but that'll probably not happen). Also I'll grind the remaining possible non lump achivements on my clickless save (not the shadows though). Mainly a garden sac and a few hundred GC clicks.

Not as big as absol. Whether that'll change, idk yet.

@@linuslucke3838 very true, I think he stopped playing while ago

​​@@PsyclexionNah, he's going for anti finn(Clot+20Rusts+Loan intrests and stuff) He's not playing for progession though atm

@@linuslucke3838 anti Finn? Lol, on his main save?

@@Psyclexion yeah, that's where he has the most buildings so highest debuffs

iirc its not worth to tricast but i might be wrong

@@Nimbus_the_great I mean you're guarrented an extra GC, so how can that be bad? Maybe the overall CF chance is lower, because of the missing DI(I don't think it makes that big of a diffrence that it outweights an entire extra cast though), but if you do get a CF, you have 1 GC more then without triplecasting.

I've posted some math on this before in Discord. With the old route, you get 3 chances at a golden cookie, which have a 83.335%, 68.335%, and 53.335% chance of being a golden cookie. On average, that gives a total of 2.05005 golden cookies. With tricasting, the 4 cookies have a 68.35%, 53.35%, 53.335%, and 38.335% chance of being golden. That gives an average of 2.1337 golden cookies. This is where I stopped calculating last time, but now I also calculated the chances for CF in both cases. A normal quadcast gives a 43.495% chance of a CF, while a quincast gives a 44.073% chance of a CF. This is only a small difference, so I think the additional chance of a GFD FtHoF from the normal route would make up the difference.

@@josephradecki1414 But with a GFD, you don't get the extra chance at CF, unless you click it to check the outcome and change season, but then you don't have the extra onscreen again. Or you change the season anyway without checking, but then you don't have a chance at 2BS. Also, if you want to you can skip a DI entirely and use GFD for the 2nd bar, giving a 1/8 for a hexcast, and a decent chance to get a GFD preconfirm for the last fthof

To lategame, possible, to endgame, not possible Not gonna though

@@linuslucke3838 TIL that it's possible to idle to lategame. Also, how much do you think it would take?

@@fishman-qu7dp A year or so but people have done so already Lategame definied as all prestige upgrades The problem with reaching endgame idle now is that endgame gets pushed faster by Updates then you can reach it. And at this point even without updates it might take centuries.

That's boring though, all you do is change each Click Frenzy and Dragon Flight to a Building Special/Cookie storm (Garden combos are kinda useless since you would need multiple insane grimore spots on the same seed for them to be worth it)

The combo execution, or the time beetween the last 2 combos?

@@linuslucke3838 time between combos

@@user-qn3kk6jg6d Yeah, got lucky on scrying, and this was my 5th Nat F DO BS. Also the scry actually had another 2 fthofs right before it, if I were scumming I could have triple tapped GFD and get 4BS

Thank you. I definetly went crazy doing this, espacially during the 1 month of no F BS EF.

Thanks for giving me the idea to do this

Costs lumps that I could use for CpS. Using Loan 2 is -40% bank, which because I'm capped anyway, is a huge waste. If I got the F DH EF, I'd have used Loan 1, since that's only 20% bank, but since I got F BS EF, I muted banks instead and didn't use loans

@@linuslucke3838 Oh right i forgot about bank cap.

That is what I was trying to do here. Grew full dukes, then replaced some bad ones when most where at ~64 Ticks with QB, then with BB at 32 again, and the dukes that still grew bad I placed chocoroots. The result was way worse then just full QBs

Have you tried doing this on a save file that had already sacrificed the garden? Because the achievement for sacrificing makes plants mature 5% faster, but it doesn't make the lifespan shorter, so dukes are mature for a larger portion of time (age 91-99 instead of age 95-99).

@@josephradecki1414 Don't want to sac garden, just doing 2 combos with F DH EF Nat will be faster probably But I hadn't considered that. Might sac garden while waiting for update

Thanks, let's not go 4x over odds again

You could, but I won't. 1/14*1/10*1/16=1/2240. That's way to rare, not to mention each time you get Frenzy you have to wait for 3 min to do another attempt. Also for F BS EF you can abuse Lucky streak prevention to almost always get the Frenzy. Another problem is that you'd need Reaper of fields so no SI for GC spawnrate, so harder DO timing

Am i understanding correctly that you were unlucky on the F+BS+EF? Also, I'm planning to do some garden combos soon, should i use F+DH+EF?

​@@fishman-qu7dpYeah it took >1500 nat GCs which is 3-4x over average. F DH EF is alot easier, as if you summon DO and get F, DO will then probably give Lucky, allowing for likely another F from next Nat. At that point if you keep on clicking the GCs your Frenzy will very slowly go down, if you keep getting F Lucky F Lucky..., so each time you have Lucky streak prevented use Epoch and with Frenzy streak prevented use Reaper of fields. Then if you get F DH turn on Gpoc and pray for EF. Of course you can also just get the DH from the DO, but unlike with BS it's not necessary.

Wouldn't using EM make getting the nats take longer because you need to wait more until the longer F dies to use DO

@@fishman-qu7dp But DO isn't needed, since DH lasts enough to get another nat spawn. Use it when you can, for manilulating streak prevention. For example, Nat F, DO Lucky, Nat F, DH EF works and doesn't have streak prevent issues. After the 2nd Nat F, you can also just keep getting Lucky Frenzy Lucky Frenzy for a while before the Frenzy is so low that you can't get DH and EF in time. If you get b2b frenzy, even better. If you get b2b lucky, or a BS, wait for F to die and go again

Ty!

200 QiVgt if I click it and get BS, but remember that fortunes are naturals and therefore not predictably seeded. Just because I got BS when I did click it, doesn't mean I would have gotten it there aswell(although it's technically ever so slightly more common to get BS after a CF then after a Ruin, since streak prevent on CF makes BS more common, where Ruin streak prevention does nothing for a nat GC, but the DF already lowers Nat CF chance so it really doesn't matter) After all I already had the grail, and one of my exec rules was that if I have more then 1 nat I stop clicking nats after DF, only going for them again if I don't get a fthof CF. Technically long term it's better to click it(~1/10 at 40x) but long term math kinda fails when you only get in that situation every few hundred hours. I might change to click all nats in the next update, depending on how big the CpS increase is from the update.

@@linuslucke3838 I thought that u would've given up on the game by now or found a new one, but nope. your still grinding and getting on top of every leaderboard. when is the next update? It's been so long since the last one I wanna see what orteil will add, but idk how much of a cps increase it'll be, especially with no new buildings.

@@Zubarsid I still love this game(Currently going for Quinquagintillon General since that's the category where I can improve the most, and still trying for Trevigintillon Clickless, it's just not happening so far) Been a year since last update, I think it could be soon. I'd say new minigames(which he said we'll get)could potentially be alot more powerful then just another building and the upgrades for it. Imagine we didn't have any minigames. That would mean no extra GC frequency, no fthof buffs, no goadzamok and mokal, no loans etc. All of these on there own are stronger then a building but synergizeing them is what makes the game fun. And adding to that could potentialy change the entire meta of the game for comp and finnless (General probably not as much, since we already get everything , maybe a few more onscreens though, or a new buff gets added)

Yeah this exec was actually insanely good, very satisfying. I have a Duodecacast(~310 casts to go)and will do a slightly different exec strat, and with about 3h of goadzamok and perfect execution I should barely be able to get Quinquagintillon, since I simulated the combo and got to 4.84NoQag with just 1min godz

Oh, by the way does this mean you're ahead of me in CBAT? If so I'll update my title on my Finn exec vid

@@linuslucke3838 Yeah, but you don't have to bother with that, because i cant go for the deorl for a few days

@@cookiemains Well, you're still ahead, doesn't matter whether you already executed. Also I've thought of a different exec strat that doesn't involve deorl, but focuses on the fortune GC, it's more consitent and better unless you do the deorl strat and get the ~15% Fortune. 1. Stack goadzamok untill cyclius Timing/lump about to fall 2. Unswitch, wait till GC is about to spawn, switch again 3. Replant tulips, swap patheons, Turn on veil(You're now on a 15min timer, but you'd have to get very unlucky to fail) 4. Wait untill a fortune GC spawns, unswitch, click the fortune and start grimore exec, when you notice nat spawn/are done with grimore(in this case the nat likely spawned but you missed it with all the other GCs, you can Check in Timer Widget if unsure, but you even if it didn't spawn untill now, it's probably too late) switch again. If you're really lucky this nat spawn is deorl, and you get the perfect combo 5. Rebuy Towers, swap SI to Dragons Fortune, click

Because time issue(need to cast 2nd to last fthof before nat) and too lazy to unlock glovemorel and it doesn't even Matter since I doubt that the .7% boost results in an extra building, that is then one of the buildings I get BS off first, and even then the diffrence would still be unnoticable in the end