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for single vdj and for dual imo bmj & vdj

@@yuuga2169 if i'm using bmj+ddj it's good?

@@muchaffandy427 its doable but ds main dmg came from vdj so its either you choose bmj+vdj or ddj+vdj for max output dmg

DS can use both fan and chakram, so it wont be a problem

Yes, ds now is around tier A dps

Hello, in this video im using vdj ddj but in nests and raids im using vdj bmj.

oh yeaa i didnt notice the debuff expired haha, i tried again and the timing decrease to 3:14 😅

Overall rampage claw still better

For runes rampage claw and for skill jades VDJ & BMJ

Imo based on your criteria, i can reccomend ds to you. DS is an agile class with good aoe for farming in dungeon and nest, have self recovery buff( you need to keep hitting the monster to heal urself), and have good super armor break skills in pvp. And also ds will get a boost this june on SEA that will boost her dps a lot in pve.

@@yuuga2169 thanks a lot, Sir really appreciate your response and insights, looking forward to more videos of your DS.

@@yuuga2169 Hi, Good day. Just a follow question, is Dark Summoner a type of DPS with the gameplay of Debuff then DPS, or is it a setup-type DPS class like his sister Soul Eater or gameplay like Stingbreezer which cast/setup skills and then triggers its damage at once?

@@johnpetersongeronimo8468 DS only have 2 debuffs from puppet and revenge hand, just place puppet 1st before dps. A bit diff from her sister SE that need lot of setup before dps. And yes ds is more like a burst type dps and the rotation depends on the gathering bubbles that will reset her main skills cd everytime your main skills hit the enemies.

@@yuuga2169 Thanks again for the response, I really appreciate it as I was learning things for DS class.

before buff, the ds boost will come to SEA around june

I have same question too.just cc to ds today

Hi, base on ranks are, 1. revenge hand, 2. Rampage claw (normal and instant combined), 3. Chain claw

Thank you, i'll try if im not busy 😅

yes with current rotation, rampage claw runes is more suitable and the dmg increase a lot from it.

@@yuuga2169 so chaos formation is no longer useable ?

@@majnocillado6523 its still usable but if u want to incrase your dps, you have to switch to rampage claw runes since u gonna cast rampage claw a lot with the new rotation after 3rd awakened

Oryt thank youuu!!

Hahah i know right 🤣

the dps is 4.45T, if with the skill rank % i forgot to include it in the video haha, maybe i'll make another video with the skill rank in it.

This S1 boss has 35 quadrillion hp, so yes its really thick 😅

Thank you 😁

Imo spirit twinge after 3rd awaken is really slow casting and distrupt the rotation. I think u better reroll for chaos formation or rampage claw on your lunar jades. I'll make video comparison later between rampage claw and chaos formation runes after 3rd to see wich one is more good 😁

@@yuuga2169 thank you for the info! After watching DS 3rd awakening in speedcolie i also realized it is now good, very slow casting. I guess I'll have to reroll them 😭 my luck is so bad with lunar jades huhuhuhhuuh. Currently using chaos formation runes. I'll aim for that then. Thanks again rorooo

@@roebuerom5317 np, you are not the only one that have bad rng on rerolling lunar jades, me oso 🥲

@@yuuga2169 and stigmata is so limited now 🥲

I'm using chaos formation runes

For enhancing balkov frozen jades

@@yuuga2169 thanks

Base on board dmg, ddj is more stronger than bmj

@@yuuga2169 you think its good to switch se just because i got 200vdj plate? I need advice^_^`

@@cloyedcruz7756 wahh nice u got se 200% vdj plate. Yesh its good to change if u got 200% plate.

@@yuuga2169 i see, T.T

@@cloyedcruz7756 if u like ds gameplay more than se u can just stay as ds. But since se is better than ds after the prev boost patch and most ppl prefer se in raid party cause of their curse debuff and high dmg is also a nice option to change job. 200% plate can make a big dps gap when u use it.

ddj for damage, bmj for usabilty. imo bmj gameplay is more comfortable with the whole rotation.

The saint want to do the best play achievment, so we let him do the final blow.

@@yuuga2169 ah i see. Was thought its the stage mechanics. Tq 👌

Ddj is better for dmg wise, my current rank on stg 20 is 3:53 when using vdj & ddj. But when using vdj & bmj the timing is around 4:08 with gap 15 sec diff. Yes ddj depend on crit for the first 2 claws while bmj can deliver all the hits in instant.

@@yuuga2169 In my opinion that i like BMJ style more with fast cast + fast gain bubble for burst dmg of VJ ( also chaos and ulti too) . DDJ decent dmg (with crit rng and need to cast 2 times) but just as along filler skill not affected any others and need to spam alot to get high dps which is hard in burst meta raid currently contents ( works in STG tho ). Its just a cancel animation skill for me :v And animation of BMJ coolers for sure.

@@EvilMonks yes agreed, ddj is good in stg but in actual raid if the boss run away before it can dealt all of the hits is gonna affect the dps. 😅

Imo for dmg wise ddj is better cause the last boost on ddj improve the dmg a lot, but for utility wise bmj is better, bmj has fast casting, easier to gather bubbles to decrease cd of main skills, and phantom avenger cd recovery is much faster when using bmj cause of awakened passive phantom claw.

The dmg gap between bmj and ddj is slightly lower around 10%-15%. Honestly i like vdj & bmj gameplay more because bubble is easier to gather, fast casting, and phantom avenger cd recovery is more faster. If ED gonna boost bmj dmg or increase the board dmg of phantom claw on the future, vdj & bmj choose is more better 😅

Ok nnti dibuat videonya, bmj nya udh ada 😀

@@yuuga2169 gela gela. Gimme sam gold pwease dadyy

DDJ dmg got boosted in previous patch so the dmg is quite decent now

@@yuuga2169 what would be the difference between ddj and bmj? Just asking because I know nothing about DS I'm SD xd

@@elaleX321 In term of dmg ds ddj is better than bmj and ds bmj oso has annoying bug that makes the dmg not dealt properly.

Only from dual jades. before without dual jades im stuck at stg 19 with 3:18. Now after using dual jades i can clear stg 20 with best timing around 4:09 and the dps went up from 880b to 1.2T 😀

@@yuuga2169 huge increased from dual jade. Nice But is it worth to craft in weapon +14 only?

@@EvilMonks imo with +14 or +15 ady good enough since no one selling ds weap with higher enhancement and sub stats that i need hahaha. Oso eod is out of my budget, cant afford it. Im just casual player 😔

@@yuuga2169 if im not wrong that i just saw Tough +15 cdm stat last 2 days from Exyl

@@EvilMonks yes i saw it oso but the stats is cdm, i need def stat 😔

Waw ty op phys

Sorry for the wait, just got the time to record it 😅

Thank you, will make a video of it soon when it come in SEA next month 😀

It is, but sadly DS boost still nothing compare to SE 😅

yeah...SE boost is big impact to her.

Can bmj also, but bmj kinda buggy to use 😅

The difference is big. As u can see on the video if using ddj the add dmg in on no 1 but if u using vdj the revenge hand will be on no 1 in skill list.

yes i think about that too cause the rotation its more smooth with bmj, but bmj is too buggy to use. before when i use bmj the cd sometimes got bugged like its keep decreasing after i entering portal (the cd with -20% reduction is around 5 sec, but sometimes its keep decreasing to 4 sec then 3 sec after i entering portal or moving town) and wont deal any dmg at all when i cast it. so after ED boosted DDJ on kr patch note before i think its better for using ddj than bmj and the ddj boost its really a lot from 180% to 300% compare to bmj than only increase from 200% to 250%. another reason is because the board dmg of chain claw is bigger around 4k% compare to phantom claw than only 2k% plus phantom claw and chain claw have similiar cd around 7 sec without using skill jade and when using skill jade it became around 5 sec. also i saw some DS user in china using vdj and ddj rather using vdj and bmj. but maybe im gonna test it also for using bmj later if i managed to find someone who selling +15 bmj.

@@yuuga2169 thanks. Btw se and ds which is stronger now? Ds can deal decent dps now?

@@EvilMonks in my opinion is SE because after the revampt ED boost most of the main skills board dmg of SE wich is really big compare to DS plus SE got curse debuff and 40% add dmg passive from their mastery wich is boosting their dps a lot. But SE set up is kinda troublesome that u need to set up puppet and totem before able to dps compare to DS than can throw any skills on their first hit. But i still prefer to play DS because the gameplay is more flexibel than SE and the dmg after revampt also more decent than before.

thank you XD

Yes i noticed ady about it and reported it to ED ady. They on work to fix it now 😀. Here the notice from ED that they ady aware of the bug sea.dragonnest.com/news/notice/all/774

hope so, since the AS buff from phantom avenger really affecting the whole rotation 😢