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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 33 - The 2nd Spangler Lecture
A First Impression of the First Dialogue of Pacheco's Compendio (or, I Sure Hope You Know Your Aristotle)
Lois Spangler started learning swordsmanship through iaido, found HEMA once she moved to Australia, and joined the Brisbane School of Iberian Swordsmanship in its founding year. With six years of European fencing, nearly five of those in Destreza, she considers herself fairly new to the scene but as a professional bilingual writer and editor with over twenty-five years of experience, she uses her professional expertise to bring Destreza primary sources to English-speaking audiences. Her original research, sharp eye for author's voice, and her collaborative work on Figueredo, Pacheco, and Carranza texts have made her a rising star as she joins a growing community of Destreza researchers and martial artists.
Lois Spangler started learning swordsmanship through iaido, found HEMA once she moved to Australia, and joined the Brisbane School of Iberian Swordsmanship in its founding year. With six years of European fencing, nearly five of those in Destreza, she considers herself fairly new to the scene but as a professional bilingual writer and editor with over twenty-five years of experience, she uses her professional expertise to bring Destreza primary sources to English-speaking audiences. Her original research, sharp eye for author's voice, and her collaborative work on Figueredo, Pacheco, and Carranza texts have made her a rising star as she joins a growing community of Destreza researchers and martial artists.
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 32 - The 2nd Heveran Lecture
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Michael Heveran has been a student of swordsmanship for twenty years, training primarily in pre-modern Italian, Spanish, and Japanese traditions. For the past five years, he has been coaching practice groups for Fabrisian and Bolognese swordsmanship in Seattle. Michael has lectured on the intersection of history and martial arts for the Vancouver International Swordplay Symposium, for which he ...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 31 - The Heveran Lecture
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Michael Heveran has been a student of swordsmanship for twenty years, training primarily in pre-modern Italian, Spanish, and Japanese traditions. For the past five years, he has been coaching practice groups for Fabrisian and Bolognese swordsmanship in Seattle. Michael has lectured on the intersection of history and martial arts for the Vancouver International Swordplay Symposium, for which he ...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 30 - The 2nd Rivera Lecture
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Tim Rivera is the author of the Godinho translation, the Viedma translation, gifted instructor of historical sword arts, and an advocate for all forms of Destreza. Since his last work Mr. Rivera has been on a journey reading Carranza, Pacheco, Mendoza, Thibault, Figueiredo, and more. This lecture will about a talk about what he has found by reading through Pacheco.
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 29 - The Runacres Lecture
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Rob is the founder of the Renaissance Sword Club, and his main passions are for sword disciplines, with an emphasis on forms found mainly in Early Modern France. The main historical masters he studies are Pedro De Heredia; Girolamo Cavalcabo; and François Dancie. He has translated a number of French treatises, including Livre des Leçons (attrib. Pedro De Heredia, early to mid seventeenth centur...
Destreza Dialogue Series - Episode 5
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NOTE: There is no Episode 4 due to technical issues with the recording. Informal Destreza discussion
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 28 - The Bermudez Mestizo Lecture
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Ash Bermudez discovered the SCA and Northern Shaolin Kung-Fu at the same time, and has pursued a lifelong love affair with martial arts since then. He has been fighting in SCA heavy combat for 22 years, specializing in spear/polearm and two-handed sword, and has competed in SCA rapier for 17 or so years, exclusively in LVD. He has enjoyed success in applying LVD theory to the use of Longsword, ...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 27 - The Sanchez Garcia Lecture
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Darío was born in Ávila, Spain, in 1991. In his childhood he did not train much in the martial arts, but he practiced karate for a couple of years. In 2009 he moved to Salamanca to study Mathematics and he became interested in both reenactment and historical fencing. But, it was not until 2011 when he was to start practicing HEMA. When he started, he was influenced by both AGEA and AEEA as some...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 26 - The 2nd Howden Lecture
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Mr. Howden runs HistoricCombat.com, where he heads the Visual Thibault and Visual Frias projects. He has been researching, practicing, and teaching Historical European Martial Arts for over two decades and has taught Destreza material in the United States and Canada. He will be speaking about Girard Thibault's Destreza method.
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 25 - The Maldonado Lecture
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Ernesto Maldonado began studying historical fencing in 1988 within the SCA, beginning with a study of the few Italian sources available in English at the time. His first contact with Destreza was researching Grandezas in 1996 for an introductory class. Shortly afterwards, he moved into theatrical fencing at multiple Renaissance Festivals and returned to the SCA in 2005 after its rapier fencing ...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 24 - The Romagnan Lecture
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Sébastien Romagnan is a laureate of the Philippe Errard’s award 2013 for his work on Nobleza de la espada from Rada. He is one of the few French specialists of Destreza. He has taught Destreza for many years in Annemasse, France and is the author of several books about the tradition. His lecture will discuss the theoretical aspect of the Destreza which is little studied. This talk will try to s...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 23 - The 2nd Curtis Lecture
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Puck Curtis has been practicing Destreza for over 25 years contributing research, teaching seminars, and fencing in public exhibition bouts against other notable figures in the western martial arts community. He has traveled and fenced with his friends in Spain and maintains good relationships with other leading researchers around the world. His wife and research partner, Dr. Mary Curtis, recei...
Destreza Dialogue Series - Ep. 03
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This video is a dialogue about Destreza in which the hosts, Eric Myers and Puck Curtis, ask questions to the community to promote discussion.
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 22 - The Pacheco Lecture
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Jorge Luis Pacheco began studying fencing in early 2010 and was one of the original members of the "Brotherhood of Warriors (Hegue)" and served as an instructor for the Elite Fencing Club in Mexico City. His interests are primarily related to the use and study of historical weapons ranging from the 16th century rapier to the 20th century fightings canes of Bartitsu. He has also studied with pio...
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 21 - The Wildwind Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 21 - The Wildwind Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 20 - The Salazar Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 20 - The Salazar Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 19 - The Hickey Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 19 - The Hickey Lecture
Destreza Round Table Series - Episode 01 - Rivera, Myers, and Curtis
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Destreza Round Table Series - Episode 01 - Rivera, Myers, and Curtis
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 18 - The Hajjar Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 18 - The Hajjar Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 17 - The Neale Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 17 - The Neale Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 16 - The Hambraeus Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 16 - The Hambraeus Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 15 - The Myers Lecture`
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 15 - The Myers Lecture`
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 14 - The Curtis Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 14 - The Curtis Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 12 - The Zacharopoulos Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 12 - The Zacharopoulos Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 13 - The Wang Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 13 - The Wang Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 11 - The Lai Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 11 - The Lai Lecture
Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 10 - The Kozlowski Lecture
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Destreza Lecture Series: Episode 10 - The Kozlowski Lecture
Este deporte es una verdadera obra de arte❤❤❤❤
I could tell that was Ton Puey just by his body language. I'm not big into Rapier, but i love watching his work.
Masters of the sword. Impressive to watch.
Is there a specific exercise you do to keep your arm high up the whole time like that?
Ive always wanted to know where the name Heveran comes from? Is that Irish or Spanish ? Or Viking. Apparently Heveran was originally Evaronne fron Norman Origin but there is more to this name.
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No llevan protección en las manos ni en ante brazo no llevan daga o capa de protección si hacen círculos pero no es la auténtica destraza
Thank you for the comment. Using the sword alone is the most common weapon style described in the books written by the original authors. Some authors do describe a sword and dagger style but if you have an example of sword and cape techniques written within the Spanish True School, I would love to read that. The original books show some counters to fencers who wear armor on their hands and forearms but that's also not typical of the school but something which outsiders do. Also, the most common spelling in Spanish is 'destreza' and not 'destraza' and we would most correctly say, 'la verdadera destreza' to make it clear that we are referring to the Spanish True school and not the common (or vulgar) school of Spanish fencing. If you have additional books written by the Destreza masters which support your statements and you can share the titles and authors, I would consider that an act of kindness from you.
Spanish Empire!!!
Very nice, just one comment. That guard does not seem a viable steady starting position. Not with that kind of hilts. Just a slight movement and you find your hand impaled
So just a question, from what I've read in Godinho, he says you should parry with estocs (either nails up or down and at the level of the incoming strike) but here the Godinho user seems to use moe standard beating or hanging parries. Is it just that they estocs weren't appropriate at those situations or is there something else I missed here about how you're supposed to parry in Godinho?
The "3 rules" seem to be aimed at getting someone able to defend themselves with a sword as quickly as possible, rather than fencing with experienced swordsmen.
Hmmm Heveran? Arent they from the norman invasion of Ireland. My great great grandmother was a Heveran . Mary Heveran. Known as Evaronne. Predating back to Viking. My grandfather was Irish and married my grandmother here in New Zealand.
Pacheco style I thing is more precise , concise and superior than Rada style
I like the Spanish style.
I knew the other one had to be Ton Puey because of the way he moves. It's unmistakable. Now I understand... Wow to both.
I’ve seen a couple videos of men dueling in this event and had a few questions: First is where is this? This is easily one of the prettiest venues I’ve seen HEMA done. Second, what is the event? I love the idea of duels before a dining crowd of spectators. Third, is this a regular event or just a one time thing because I would love to attend even if I couldn’t partake in the fighting.
Where does La Vedadera Destreza meet Russell's Paradox?
My head hurts just THINKING about it.
Thanks to Puck and Mary Curtis.
Awesome to say the least. Thank you Lois.
This should have been the first lecture.
My opinion is that atajo should be used as a transition to attack and therefore is an offensive movement with an intent to conclude.
Does Debrea have an English translation? This seems to go well with Kalis illustrisimo.
I'm sold now on Goldinho. Thanks 👍
so so
2:18:00 The four qualities could be the four types of Aristotelian motion: pulling, pushing, carrying, and twirling (Physics VII-2, section 243a10-244a6 in Barnes translation) - touch does indeed give you information about those, and the following sections do talk about how information about the motion is transferred from the sword to the holder. One thing I found really helpful in trying to understand the giant mess of lines, angles, motions and whatever else in Destreza is, ironically enough, not what the science of the time was, but rather what wasn't invented yet. Because once you know what sort of tools they didn't have, you start to see what they had to bend their model backwards to include, and why the seams are where they are.And two things that weren't invented yet that are critical for fencing: biomechanics and vectors. Biomechanics are roughly contemporary with destreza, Da Vinci has some of the first detailed models but the first proper work on this is Borelli's De Motum Animallium from mid-17th century, and neither of these are part of trivium or quadrivium. Vectors, on the other hand, are not invented until 19th century (well, the euclidean space equipolence, vectors proper are early 20th century). And you really need those to combine motions with any sort of ease. These two gaps in knowledge combined mean we need to resort to natural properties of lines and natural movement of elements to explain why some movements are stronger than others. Once you know that, a lot of the text goes from "why the hell would you make this so complicated" to "oh, I see, they had subpar tools for analyzing how compound movements interact with gravity".
Thanks for this! I'll definitely read up on this part of Physics. I've been playing catch-up with Aristotle for the past couple of years. (Incognitiously = Lois)
Is this style pre or post Filipino conquest. I’m seeing an awful lot of escrima in here
This Spanish style of fencing was prevalent from the late 1500s through the late 1800s. While we know there is some shared technique and jargon between Destreza and the Filipino traditions I think the evidence suggests they were created independently and then interacted in interesting ways after they encountered each other.
Very interesting stuff
how much would the iron mask cost?
You can buy masks using these patterns here: www.horsebows.com/fencing-masks.php
@@Dickeyj2010 Yes it does
Where can I get such nice looking weapons? :)
The those look like the Destreza blades from Darkwood Armory in the USA
01:49 Start of talk (recommends watching his 1st talk and Howden'a 2nd talk) 03:53 Chapter 33 Thibault vs Fabris 09:40 How to read the chapter and plates 11:15 Starting with the 2nd play (Circles 1 & 2) 13:30 Subjection and understanding the play 20:42 The Fabrisian understanding of the play 21:50 1st Play 23:47 Why the play works (strategic breakdown) 29:06 The Fabrisian understanding of the play - What else could Zachary do? 32:22 3rd & 4th Plays 33:54 Thrust to the center - The Fabrisian response 35:25 4th play in detail - Alexander's response 36:01 Thibault's Grip 40:13 Fabrisian perspective
01:19 Context of Talk - Understanding Thibault through the lens of Salvator Fabris' Tactics 10:30 Two Modes of Fighting - Firm Footed and Passing 12:16 Thibault: The Guard of the Right Angle 16:02 In Motion 19:10 Inquirtada Type Footwork 22:43 Moving like a Dancer 23:41 Weight Management (balance) 24:50 Distinctive way(s) of Pausing: Floating foot, switching balance and/or feet 25:36 Ways of striking 29:00 How do you bail out in gyrata? (spelling?) 30:31 Fabris: His Guards/Stances 34:50 Degrees of profile in relations to opponent and diameter 36:54 Fabris' Two Footwork Modes: Pie Fermo & Passata 39:22 Footwork, structure, and strategy are considerations for before, during and after the strike 42:51 Applying the two modes: before engagement/the strike 44:35 Applying the two modess: during engagement/the strike 47:12 Fabris and Capo Fero Comparison 51:06 Applying the two modess: after engagement/the strike 53:25 Fabrizian footwork 54:22 Third Mode of Footwork: Proceeding with Resolution (Fabris' 2nd book) 55:42 Thibaults Single Mode 57:33 Tactics - Not just footwork & positions 58:55 1st Mover & 2nd Mover 1:02:04 2nd Mover Advantage 1:04:36 1st Mover Advantage
Here is the video on Aristotle's Four Causes to which Maestro Curtis refers: th-cam.com/video/Y2E94M_Rmfc/w-d-xo.html
04:19 Girard Thibault D'Anvers 12:12 The Academy of the Sword 21:50 Specifics of the system/book 26:51 Basic Approach 31:34 How to study HEMA sources 35:32 The Weapon 42:14 Holding the Sword (grips) a 45:06 Guard & Posture 49:10 The Mysterious Circle - Lol, "The greatest thing since sliced opponents" :) 56:33 Divisions of Time 1:03:28 Divisions of Space (3 Instances of measure) 1:07:20 Thibault Finish (with extreme discourtesy) 1:08:45 Controlling the blade 1:13:44 Controlling without blade contact 1:19:03 Basic Rules 1:23:51 Five Responses to Engagement 1:28:35 Spinning Actions 1:30:00 Four Categories of Spinning Actions 1:35:47 Questions 1:41:50 Question 2
04:37 Howden's Fencing background 06:45 Looking at text for what they are 08:49 Bringing a system out of a book - The good and the bad 12:12 Getting started with saber - making stuff up vs finding sources 15:23 Don Simon de Frias 17:08 Tratado elemental de la destreza del sable 24:25 Historical Context 28:21 Frias' Destreza 33:52 The saber specifications of Frias 38:42 Modern training blades for Frias 39:42 Differences between small sword and saber 44:10 Measurements of the body
Dam my testosterone levels dropped trying to watch this. Get someone with some fucking balls to render such important información I will suffer through eventually for the data but fucck godmother and faries and shit about toxic masculinity get to the fucking point
I would love to hear a discussion between Mr. Garcia and Mr. Howden. In his second lecture Mr. Howden says that analysis of Thibault’s “circle” reveals that the proportions are particularly precise, but Mr. Garcia’s analysis of the circle used by the Spanish school proper indicates that it is an idealization at best, at least when applied to the system presented in I.33. This is obviously not an irreconcilable contradiction as the geometrical figures and systems are all different, but I would be interesting in hearing these two compare notes on combat geometry.
Thank you so much to Lois Spangler and the Sacramento Sword School for this. 😊
Are there any English translations of Carranza's work?
Lois Spangler has a patreon which is translating an edited reprint of Carranza's book. Fair warning, the book is a meta-text on fencing and not a handbook. It's mostly about how to be a good fencing teacher and fencer without much in the way of specific technique. Search Patreon for 'Lois Spangler' and it should pop right up.
It could be nice to talk about the "verdadera destreza" in Spanish, right? ,😉😁
My friend and colleague, Ton Puey, hosts a channel with lectures in Spanish. See the Academia de Espada channel: th-cam.com/channels/dj30kuba2Ol8fIbPpl2PdQ.htmlvideos
Pero si estoy viendo al capitan alatriste!!
Very nice overview of quadrivium (pure number, number in space, number in time, number in space & time) at +9:20
the Spanish were the largest empire that has ever existed for their courage and determination. No one will ever match us. No one.
Asi es 😎
el imperio mas grande en tamaño fue el mongol, y el mas extendido en tiempos modernos fue el britanico, el imperio español fue grande y duro su tiempo pero no fue el mas extenso
Tremendous! Pity Seattle is 8 time zones away.
Me wo korose, kore koso Iberia no Destreza!!!
Hello Thorns
Accidental from a classical philosophical standpoint basically means a trait that is not essential to a thing. Meaning if it was removed, it will continue being what it is. An essential trait will change the essence of the thing if removed...... this probably doesn’t help lol.
Oh but it does! You never want to move directly forward in LVD. That gets you killed. You always want a nice mixed movement of forward/accidental and offline. So in a fundamental way, you're right!
@@incognitiously great! I actually exaggerated a bit- this really resonated with me the first time I made the connection reading Pacheco. The word itself was a lesson. I just never had luck describing this to others such that it clicked. Thanks for the work you all do!
I went down a rabbit hole with the question of movimiento accidental. Real Academia Española indicates that accidental comes from late Latin “accidentalis” which does have the connotation of falling or unintentional. However, in Latin there were two very similar intransitive verbs, accido and accĭdo. The latter is actually the origin of the late Latin “Accidentalis”. The former is PERHAPS where we get the terminology for distreza, I assume, as it means to hack, cut, hew, overthrow, destroy, etc. This is a pretty curious innovation linguistically. If the author who coined this in Spanish was aware of the two intransitive verbs in classical Latin, this could be an interesting example of bivalency or double meaning.
On second thought, in the context of the other related movimientos terminology, the musical reference makes sense.
"Accidental movement" ... lol, because you don't ever intentionally step directly forward toward the opponent from the medio de proportion....
Just to be clear 'accidental' movement is the original Spanish term for moving the weapon towards the opponent. In English we typically translate it as "forward" movement.
Another great talk! Bookmarking for further review... +8:05. Why Pacheco wrote his book. ~700 pages, written at age 30 after 10 years study +11:35. Five Parts 1) Foundational elements +14:10 2) Technical fundamentals +25:51 3) Defeating ordinary destreza +36:39 4) Particulars of true destreza +1:14:54 5) The universal +1:55:01 End of the book Questions +2:08:55 -Do the 'three considerations' come into discussion for Pacheco? +2:12:14 ... ~This book serves as cornerstone of what Destreza becomes subsequently. Hard to overstate its importance. +2:23:15 technical question: once you gain distance with weak under strong, what next?
This is Destreza, how could anyone get bored discussing the math?! Ha ha.
This is really fascinating.
This lecture really, really, makes my mouth water for an English translation of Carranza. Ha ha.
What a compelling bio of Carranza! I can only imagine the time and effort that went into the research here. One minor nit-pick (which I make only in the name of science (!)) is that 1/2mv^2 is the formula for kinetic energy, not force (f=ma). Regardless, the effect is much the same (due to the relationship between velocity and acceleration).
Why is it "diestrix" rather than the more Spanish "diestra"? Why the reversion to a Latin suffix rather than a Spanish suffix?
The suffix 'x' is becoming a more common way of de-gendering Spanish. This is an evolving topic and for more information you can listen to an NPR story here: www.npr.org/2019/12/08/786135746/a-new-effort-in-argentina-seeks-to-make-spanish-nouns-gender-neutral
@@PuckCurtis Oh! I see, I thought it was just referring to a female diestro and got confused. Thank you for educating me. I'm not a native speaker so I was groping with what little etymology I have stocked away in my brain, ha ha. Btw, I really appreciate and admire your work. Just bought "Page to Practice" and I'm enjoying it a lot. Thank you so much for all that you and your colleagues are doing.
@@deforeestwright2469 - Glad to help and if you haven't joined the Destreza in the SCA facebook group it is a great place to ask questions and talk with other enthusiasts. It's probably the most popular English-speaking group right now.
@@PuckCurtis OMG, thank you. I didn't know there was a specific SCA Destreza FB page. Just signed up for it. Hope to see you there. :)