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The LEGO Keyboard is Back! | KBDCraft Israfel
KBDCraft has released another "LEGO" keyboard, this time in the form of an ergonomic keyboard. How does it fair? Let's find out...
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2:59 Sound Test
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4:12 Concluding Thoughts
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Hello. Is it via compatible? How do you put layers and remap keys on it? Thank you for your video 😊
Oops, forgot about that: It runs Vial natively and supports via 👍.
How do i learn which is the right finger to press each key? I can touch type (mostly) but i almost exclusively use my index finger, expecially with my right arm... I can type around 35wpm when touch typing. So, any advice
It changes by speed, and there are a few methods, but the ones I've used are: <50 WPM: - Finger-letter association: Pretty self explanatory; you try and link up letters with fingers. For example, I associate left pinky with A, thus whenever I see an A, I just press down my left pinky. To build on that, for the entire left middle column (ED primarily; I press C with index), I associate both E and D with the middle finger, and sort out which is which through memorizing their locations. I'd reccomend not learning relatives here (as in, oh it's above E, etc.) because it can hinder learning their locations independently. Instead, form mental locations like "top middle" or "top right corner" for P for example. The most common typing style reccomends 1 column per finger (two for each index). So, the left pinky would be QAZ, left ring WSX, etc. - Frequency/Region association: This is a bit more difficult on QWERTY. You associate the likelyhood of a letter being somewhere with which finger to press. So for simplicty sake, as an example, most alt layouts put more frequent letters on stronger fingers (index/middle) thus whenever I, say, see an A, theres a high likelihood of that being on my middle finger. For QWERTY, this is more difficult to apply, so I'd probably avoid it. If anyone reading this is on an alt layout, give the latter a try. It can be quicker/easier :). <120 WPM: There's a gap here as in 50-120 WPM is a mix of the previous and below. - Word-finger(s) association: Similar to former, you associate entire words with fingers. For example, if I wanted to type "the", I don't think "okay T l-index, H r-index, E l-middle" I just think "okay, it's two indexes and a middle". Like the ED middle part, I simply memorize to figure out what sequence to press. The change from the previous is that you should now know each letter's location almost involuntarily, meanwhile what sequence to press is the next learning step. (this is chording :D) >140 WPM: the final frontier/preview to advance guide - shape. Basically, with finger, location, and sequence mastered, there's no point in mentally thinking about them. Instead, you simply combine the former two into shape. What this means is you don't go "okay left index, top right corner, T" "right index, middle inner row, H" etc. If I wanted to type "the", I don't bother thinking which finger is which, I just position my hands in the correct shape, and perform the sequence. You don't move your fingers individually, the go together. 200+ theres premoving and stuff that I'm not good enough to theorize on :D Sorry for going on a tangent, just really provoked some thought. TL;DR 1) associate letters with fingers 2) associate letters with positions 3) figure out the sequence to press them done!
@@val0rance Thanks for taking the time to break it down in such detail! Keep making content, and doing what you love!
too much stagger propaganda! get split colstag (e.g., corne) and forget about this bullshit forever.
now this, this is cool
Since it's lego compatible you can upgrade the hinge and \ or hide the cable with bigger rotation piece. Or replace it with ball joint and angle the legs to make it tilted. Thought it's still an ortholinear board. Meaning it's a waste of time & resources that leads nowhere.
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@@ConsecDesign Ortholinear layout is an abomination.
if not applying PEQ, will the noise occur?
The audio artifacts will, but the tone will not.
@val0rance just received mine, and the artifact is audible :(
@@kimberly_lippington :(, I don't understand how this kind of thing gets past QC.
Voyager for me, and figured I would switch layouts at the same time to get the most benefit. It's been game changing. Layers for everything, I don't have to move my hands for anything anymore; nav keys, backspace, enter, modifiers, they're all on thumbs or the homerow. My chest is open, my wrists are facing the right way, and all my discomfort is gone including the savage rsi that was developing in my wrist
What other solutions would you recommend?
Setting up a proper QMK firmware for the keyboard is the best idea - th-cam.com/video/9bjp_LteX_Y/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=iNimbleSloth - I've found this person's video helpful in doing it. Good luck!
@@val0rance Thanks - looking to reprogram my custom macro pad.
unrealistic trash
Actually I have 5 keyboards: 3 splits, 1 Alice and right now a Planck. The motivation was because I wanted something easier to transport when I go to work to the office or a coffee shop, despite the Corne keyboard for example is a small keyboard, it is not comfortable to transport a split keyboard, specially when you don't have a travel kit. It's funny, but it uses more space than oneself expected. So the compact design of the Planck is perfect to move it.
when will you make a video regarding your Night layout? You reached your fastest with Night on rowstag with the angle mod? Your website shows a colstag layout... It would be good to have both shown.
I'm not entirely sure if I am going to make a dedicated video on Night. It's too niche to fit onto TH-cam without a good deep dive into alt layouts video available first. I might put an unlisted one on the website though 👍. I'll update the website soon.
@val0rance split ortho is pretty niche... And the layouts that support it.
190 "words" per minute is not real. Do that while copying a text you have never read. Full sentences. Punctuation. And what was you 190 wpm accuracy rate?
I'm ~140-170 WPM on full sentences. Typists like Danie in this video, nothisisjohn mythicalrocket, shaz, chak, Sean Wrona, etc. are over to well over 200 WPM in full random sentences. My 190 WPM accuracy was 98%, 197 WPM raw, 88% consistency.
dactyls are super cheap if you're not dumb enough to pay 200 dollars for it and just learning how to solder and a bit of programming, like?????
cool video but just wanted to say that the "staggered" keyboard example is horrendous, it displays terrible taste, from the shitty coloured lights to the keycaps, its a huge eyesore and such a bizzarre choice for an example of a "normal' keyboard. 40%s are cool but that is just absolutely disgusting
Excellent.. Thank you! Exactly the kind of detailed information I needed to decide between split rowstag or colstag, or not split at all. This follows a lot of my own reasoning and now I know without a doubt that rowstag is better for qwerty. All I really need is more keys for these strong, but ruefully underutilized thumbs.
Awesome video! Thank you for the education!
There are fairly customizable pcbs for dactyl now as well - no need to wire them, thanks to BastardKB, on github now (not a single switch variants, but full flexible board for left/right hand respectively). It is 6x6 which breaks down to 5x3, so don't really see a reason to hand-wire it, unless you are doing extreme angle and it won't flex enough without breaking.
What's the point of the plate with all the holes in it can't I just plug or solder my keys to my PCB and bolt it into my case?
You definitely can! That's a style called plateless. The reason plates are usually used is to: 1) Add a bit of rigidity to the typing feel - plateless is one of the most bouncy/soft/flexible --> steel, one of the most solid (and eveything in between such as PTE etc. or gasket mount etc. being something in-between). 2) Durability - if you don't use a plate, you are relying entirely on the solder to keep the switches in place. A drop on a weaker solder can easily break off the switch while with a plate it's more likely to just have the keycap fall. The is especially apparent in hotswap where a plate is still heavily reccomended. But, as long as you do a good job soldering and aren't travelling with your keyboard, plateless should be perfectly acceptable.
Aside from the jaw dropping animation for its time, this anime really opened my ears to Yokko Kano
Are ideas on keyboards like Chara Chorder?
If I can get my hands on one 😅 - I've heard from some the durability of the switches they use are questionable, but I haven't tried one yet.
@@val0rance Also there is Azeron Cyborg keypad
Problem with alternative key layout is when you live in a place where English is not the main language.
Some other languages have custom layouts designed for them :D, search around you may find some (German has a few, Chinese lots, Japanese too, etc.) There are also quite a few designed ones (French I know of a few) that just aren't published so most people don't know about them.
Thanks.
Me no hit 100 in week now me big sad 😢😢
Very nice and informative video! I would recommend recording more down, the angle of the camrea means there is a lot of blur towards the end of the frame. Maybe you can close the aperture a bit too? Idk, maybe you are going for the macro/fuzzy look
Cidoo abm066 is an amazing Alice keyboard imo. Via compatible. Cheap.
I have the Reviung 41. It whas a long period of adaptation, but it's much more confortable than any other keyboard that I test. The only con that I can think it's that do not have the number line up. The next keyboard that I want to buy is the Lily58, split, numbers and full compatibility with VIA/QMK
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Some day kids will be asking why the icon for the messaging app with their brain integrated computer system is a grid of squares.
I made myself a custom col staggered keyboard with measurements from my fingers and good god is it comfortable to never worry about hitting the wrong key. On my normal qwerty non ergo i learned to contort my fingers in weird ways to hit the keys upper or lower of home, and i have been actively unlearning that. You move your fingers up, down or for the outers left or right and it just works. Like, no weird looking/feeling whether you are actually hitting your key or if you are above/below the mark because your finger is curled slightly differently than normal. You reach for a key, and it's there. Also i made a huge thumbfan to take almost all modifier keys away from the fingers, so my hand basically never moves, my fingers are always centred on home and i can just relax my hands because i took my unique hand as a mold to rotate the columns. It just lies as if on a table, and the fingers don't have to move left or right for the other keys because the rows are aligned with them. Heavenly. I am still experimenting with the layout and thumbfan though, but the letters are already really good. After making this (considering the effort, time and skill necessary) i was wondering if people would pay for a uniquely made keyboard, but since I haven't used any other ergo keebs, i was thinking that the benefits would probably outweigh the costs to completely customise it. Also it is 100% 3d printed, so the build quality is maybe a bit cheap, and the sound would probably not be enough for "thock" aficionados, i would guess a cnc machine would probably help with that though. Hardly worth investing in one for a keyboard though. I was working on a new version with hotswap capabilities but currently it is hard soldered, probably need a better 3d printer for that too. As before, hardly worth spending 500-600$ at the cheapest to build a single keyboard.
I had forearm pain and got a Moonlander it helped but was a bulky for traveling so I switched to the Voyager and I think it’s perfect.
I think the trouble with this is that you'd need a lifelong study of keyboard use, where a substantial number of people used ergonpmic split boards for the majority of that time, to have any chance of truly determing whether it matters. In the meantime, I just find it more comfortable.
Concave split is awesome. I was typing a lot and started to get wrist pain, switched to an ergo keyboard (Glove80) and pain disappeared in a week.
I love my Iris, I don't have the best posture at my desk when I'm just goofing off. Being able to move the halves around to keep my wrists straight even while not sitting properly is fantastic.
Is that Rofi?
I thought you weren't alting Night 🥲
I alt whenever I remember to 🤣 - colstag I usually don't but I started a bit on rowstag ever since I found out I could get SFSs down to ~0.5% - 2% depending on how many I implement for Eng-200.
Oh man. As a future industrial designer, I can see so many opportunities here. I can't wait to make some weird shit.
keep that mentality fresh young one. I used to think I could do a lot too..
no homo but your hands are too pretty 😂
Nice vid mate
Great video
Thank you for this, I fell for the hype a few years ago and got a 40% planck keyboard, this was just after learning how to touch type properly. And it just isn't that good, it's cramped and the linearity messed with my wrist position. The staggered layout accidentally really fits the right hand direction. I imagine that ortholinear is only useful if split, so both hands get an angled position.
Good video very informative!! Thank you for sharing!!
Built my own Dactyl Manuform a few years ago after using an Ergodox for years before that. Biggest upside to a keywell style to me is actually the angle of the thumb cluster. This is all for comfort, not speed. I'm never been a crazy fast typer but I'm ok at 100WPM on QWERTY. I've considered moving away from QWERTY but as a PC gamer it makes things WAY more complicated.
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Speedtyping is a different niche to what spawned ergo keyboards, they are not designed to give faster typing speed, they are designed for comfort and reducing strain when typing for long periods of time with potential long term health implications
This is certainly true, but some popular ergonomic keyboard manufacturers market their keyboards as having better "efficiency" or just straight up helping you type faster (see: OLKB, Dygma "Transitioning to Ortho..."). I have also seen this claim thrown around in a lot of older ergonomic keyboard reviews so I wanted to address this :)
Yes. You really don't need to type very fast as a programmer but if you get bad enough RSI it can be disastrous.
@@val0rance OLKB's claim to efficiency is keeping all keys closer to home row. This would primarily impact modifier and function keys, which would not have a significant impact on typing tests. OLKB also puts much more emphasis on comfort rather than efficiency. Dygma mentions typing speed on only a couple pages, literally every other page on their site emphasizes comfort. One of those pages tells you to learn how to touch type, which would obviously improve typing speed in the long run. The other page tells you to use custom layers for special shortcuts, something that also would not have a significant impact on typing tests. The focus on typing speed seems to really miss the point of ergonomic keyboards, which is ergonomics, not typing speed. Typing tests would not be affected by things like comfortable thumb clusters, comfortable spacing between arms, angling the wrists correctly via tenting, etc. And no, you don't need to be injured or unhealthy to appreciate a more comfortable keyboard. A comfortable keyboard would prevent injury from happening in the first place, that's literally their purpose.
It's remarkable how comfortable my Glove 80 is. I have other keyboards that are prettier and seem cooler, but I can't get the same level of comfort with anything else I've tried. Kinesis seems promising as well, same with DIY dactyl.
i don't use a split keyboard, i use 3 keyboards 1 for my left hand, 1 for my right hand, 1 in the middle if I want to type 'normally'
This all lines up pretty well with my experiences, though I haven't tried any well ones. As literally everyone else, started on a standard keyboard that everyone thinks of when they think keyboard, then I bought a planck and that really opened a whole new world for me. I still have extremely mixed feelings on ortholinear layouts, but I also found a lot of fun benefits with the tiny footprint and basically forcing me to rethink how I use a keyboard in the first place. So while I don't think I'd ever really recommend an ortholinear to anyone, if nothing else, it is what set me on my journey. Now I use a custom built Corne and I honestly love it. I have some frankly pretty minor nitpicks with it so I've been looking at the ZSA Voyager to replace it. That one would give me a dedicated number row back, and I only actually end up using 2 thumb keys so the removal of one isn't even a consideration, and all that while retaining everything that I enjoy this Corne for. Hopefully it's as good as I'm hoping it'll be lol
I've been on the fence on getting an Alice keyboard for the last couple of months.... this just solidified my decision and I'm getting one now :D any recommendations for a case?
Appreciate the video: history and interviews. One thing: the synthetic voice distracted me. Maybe just pitch it next time rather than reverb/or whatever processing was on it.
I been using a standard tkl/75%/60% for a while and never had improper wrist bending issues. I use proper touch typing techniques on a QWERTY layout and top 150wpm on a 30 sec typing test. I find it's fastest to type on tactile mechanical switches with a hard mounting system. Just sharing my experience. I guess not everyone can be comfortable with such a setup though.
I’ve been using split keyboards in my work as a software developer for over a decade. I do not care about speed, at all. I would rather type more comfortably and slower than aggregate RSI pain for speed. Split ergo keyboards are optimized for this comfort, not for speed.