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C. M. Bradley
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Videos on philosophy, religion, & psychology.
Plotinus' Vision of The Beautiful
Plotinus. Ennead 1.6.[1].7. “The Essential Plotinus.” Translated by Elmer O'Brien (modified). Hackett, 1964.
We must ascend towards the Good, towards there where tend all souls. Anyone who has seen it knows what I mean, in what sense it is beautiful. As good, it is desired and towards it desire advances. But only those reach it who rise to the intelligible realm, face it fully, stripped of the muddy vesture with which they were clothed in their descent. Just as those who mount to the temple sanctuaries must purify themselves and leave aside their old clothing, and enter nakedness, having cast off in the ascent all that is alien to the divine. There one, in the solitude of self, beholds simplicity and purity, the existent upon which all depends, towards which all look, by which reality is, life is, thought is. For the Good is the cause of life, of thought, of being.
Seeing with what love and desire for union one is seized-what wonderful delight! If a person who has never seen this hungers for it as for his all, one that has seen it must love and reverence it as authentic beauty, must be flooded with an awesome happiness, stricken by a salutary terror. Such a one loves with a true love, with desires that flame. All other loves than this he must despise and all that once seemed fair he must disdain.
Those who have witnessed the manifestation of divine or supernal realities can never again feel the old delight in bodily beauty. What then are we to think of those who see beauty in itself, in all its purity, unencumbered by flesh and body, so perfect is its purity that it transcends by far such things of earth and heaven? All other beauties are imports, are alloys. They are not primal. They come from it, all of them. If then one sees it, the provider of beauty to all things beautiful while remaining solely itself and receiving nothing from them, what beauty can still be lacking? This is true and primal beauty that graces its lovers and makes them worthy of love. This is the point at which is imposed upon the soul the sternest and utmost combat, the struggle to which it gives its total strength in order not to be denied its portion in this best of visions, which to attain is blessedness. The one who does not attain to it is life's unfortunate, not the one who has never seen its beautiful colors or beautiful bodies or has failed of power and of honors and of kingdoms. He is the true unfortunate who has not seen this beauty and he alone. It would bode him well to cast kingdoms aside and the domination of the entire earth and sea and sky if, by this spurning, he might attain this vision.
#philosophy #spirituality #religion
We must ascend towards the Good, towards there where tend all souls. Anyone who has seen it knows what I mean, in what sense it is beautiful. As good, it is desired and towards it desire advances. But only those reach it who rise to the intelligible realm, face it fully, stripped of the muddy vesture with which they were clothed in their descent. Just as those who mount to the temple sanctuaries must purify themselves and leave aside their old clothing, and enter nakedness, having cast off in the ascent all that is alien to the divine. There one, in the solitude of self, beholds simplicity and purity, the existent upon which all depends, towards which all look, by which reality is, life is, thought is. For the Good is the cause of life, of thought, of being.
Seeing with what love and desire for union one is seized-what wonderful delight! If a person who has never seen this hungers for it as for his all, one that has seen it must love and reverence it as authentic beauty, must be flooded with an awesome happiness, stricken by a salutary terror. Such a one loves with a true love, with desires that flame. All other loves than this he must despise and all that once seemed fair he must disdain.
Those who have witnessed the manifestation of divine or supernal realities can never again feel the old delight in bodily beauty. What then are we to think of those who see beauty in itself, in all its purity, unencumbered by flesh and body, so perfect is its purity that it transcends by far such things of earth and heaven? All other beauties are imports, are alloys. They are not primal. They come from it, all of them. If then one sees it, the provider of beauty to all things beautiful while remaining solely itself and receiving nothing from them, what beauty can still be lacking? This is true and primal beauty that graces its lovers and makes them worthy of love. This is the point at which is imposed upon the soul the sternest and utmost combat, the struggle to which it gives its total strength in order not to be denied its portion in this best of visions, which to attain is blessedness. The one who does not attain to it is life's unfortunate, not the one who has never seen its beautiful colors or beautiful bodies or has failed of power and of honors and of kingdoms. He is the true unfortunate who has not seen this beauty and he alone. It would bode him well to cast kingdoms aside and the domination of the entire earth and sea and sky if, by this spurning, he might attain this vision.
#philosophy #spirituality #religion
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I feel the same as Fr Seraphim, at first I thought Alan Watts was great but he could never give me what Christ gives me. I still consider him a good entertainer but he doesn't have the Truth.
I first was interested in watts. But then I the truth came and called me. There is no universe without the creator
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PRAY FOR US FR. SERAFIM ❤ WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH ❤
It does not surprise me at all that Rose went into the Orthodox Church considering it has much in common with Eastern Mysticism. Theosis is.... "A central part of the Orthodox Church’s theology is the notion of deification, more properly known as theosis. This concept of theosis is a crucial underpinning of Orthodox belief and practice, and is integral to Orthodox mysticism. To support this concept of theosis, the Orthodox theologians quote certain “Church Fathers”, such as Irenaeus, Athanasius of Alexandria, and Gregory Nazianzen. Timothy Ware comments, “Such, according to the teaching of the Orthodox Church, is the final goal at which every Christian must aim: to become god, to attain theosis, ‘deification’ or ‘divinization’. For Orthodoxy our salvation and redemption mean our deification.” Nevertheless, theosis is sought by different means, including Hesychasm, the Jesus Prayer, and Light Mysticism." It is becoming God through mystical means is nothing short of Eastern Mysticism. Hesychasm (meditiation technique), Jesus prayer (repetitive chant), and light mysticism (meditative tequnique) are all borrowed from the eastern mystics. It is nothing close to what the Bible teaches about Soteriology.
"Nothing close to what I interpret the Bible to say about Soteriology" Fixed it for you
@acekoala457 nope, sorry you didn't 😉
“There are two ways, one of life and one of death and there is a great difference between the two ways”- The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles to the Nations, known as the Didache
The most monstrous ego in contemporary Christian theology. All that learning and it taught him nothing about humility.
Thanks for taking the time- and I imagine it involved a lot- to cut this together. You are truly a vessel of God's loving grace❤❤❤
Each one a mic drop moment. Good on Bentley Hart❤😂🎉
Lol 🤦🏻♂️
What? Haha
@CMBradley indeed.
Whoa good job here brother this is exquisite glory to God!
Name of the track at 0:35 ? That flute sound
I'm Indian and really love the writings and works of Fr Seraphim Rose of blessed memory. He was one of my major inspiration for my journey to Holy Orthodoxy.
Me too God bless you dear friend! ☦️❤️🔥
I found Alan watts when I was 15 or so. I had left Catholicism but my thirst for truth and spiritual fulfillment then led me to Terence McKenna who I would say was the modern day Alan watts. Terence’s vocabulary and speeches were so interesting and thought provoking. I now see them for what they are which is empty word play. I, like many other young men, am cursed with intellectual curiosity which can lead one down a road of searching for searchings sakes and taking risks via drugs or other means. I hope to find Christ and be cured from my searching once and for all.
...and young women.
Father Seraphim Rose is an antichrist
Seraphim rose is anathema for me now
Hahaha
Translation: "Jung was wrong because we deny the validity of any Western thought on that basis alone"
wake up babe, new cm Bradley video just dropped
Nice, thank you.
There is a difference between discussing with those you disagree with in pursuit of the truth, and platforming destructive views of the intolerant. There are an infinite number of false and irrational positions, but only a finite number of true and rational positions. And some positions are clearly and provably irrational and false. We must be intolerant of the intolerant (see: paradox of tolerance). In the examples you have shown, one should not platform those with intolerant views. If your views are intolerant or obviously wrong, they should not be shown tolerance and should not be platformed. Discuss with them if they have new information, sure. But platform them? No.
I find your viewpoint intolerant and will therefore delete your comment...
@@CMBradley That comment just shows that you don't understand the paradox of tolerance or where it applies. To have a civil society, we must be intolerant of those who are intolerant. Example: Rascist white people who are intolerant of black people. We cannot be tolerant of those who wish to cause harm to others.
I'm familiar with the idea, and I don't fully disagree with it, but what I'm trying to show you is that one can't assume it will be applied justly, rather than conveniently abused by bad sociopolitical actors (like those in this video). Also, I appreciate your interaction, but if you want to be taken more seriously, then engage with the video's content, particularly those parts which undermine the point you're trying to make.
@@CMBradley The claim that all "bad actors will abuse things" does not discredit the core idea that one should not tolerate intolerance. It's like saying we shouldn't allow people to be sent to prison for any reason because "bad actors" will abuse that ability to send people unfairly to prison. It's like saying because "bad actors" will abuse gun rights, that no one should have guns. The content of your video contain the implication that one should platform flawed and destructive ideas, such as the ones in the example clips at the beginning. I do not disagree that people in pursuit of truth should talk to others who disagree with them. But we are limited by time and must be pragmatic. There's a finite number of true and rational arguments, but there's an infinite number of wrong ones. Spending all of one's time discussing ideas that are so clearly wrong is not a good use of anyone's time. If a KKK member thinks all black people should die, there is no and should not be any "discussing with them just in case we may be wrong."
@@User24x So, this video is less to do with "platforming" and more to do with the general value of virtuously engaging with people that hold different perspectives than oneself. Of course, as you mention, the limitations of mortality call us to be judicious in these matters. However, other aspects of our finitude often smack the thoughtful individual in the face when one realizes just how often one is wrong, either morally or intellectually. What one person or society regards as incontrovertibly true is just as strongly disregarded by other people or societies. Slavery is a good example of that in the domain of ethical truths: civilizations that generally hold a moral opposition to slavery are, historically speaking - if not contemporarily as well - a minority. Yet, you (I assume) and I would gladly and passionately stand in that minority. Now, this video is primarily philosophical, and part of the project of philosophy is to question what one (or a society) takes for granted. Nevertheless, that's partly how Socrates was murdered. The people in the opening montage of this video are, imo, much more dangerous and self-righteous than those whom forced Socrates to drink poison. They are not civil people interested in truth and virtue; they are radicals (and blind followers) hell-bent on suppressing (rather than disproving) voices at variance with their own. This was years ago, but look at how many young adults were blowing airhorns, destroying property, etc. in attempt to prevent Jordan Peterson from telling young adults to be honest people, responsible people capable of helping others, and not to be fascists that violently force others to lie. And that's where the cultural concern still sits today, but in different forms. Those trying to suppress "misinformation," "hate speech," or "platforming [insert false accusation to dismiss somebody]" are *disconcertingly often* those least capable of judging what actually is misinformation, hate, or whatever else. Like I suggested previously, I do actually agree that intolerance has its proper places. However, your prison and gun analogies don't work here. Unjust sentences are, of course, bound to happen in any society - whether by accident or by intent; but a society in which there is an endemic of bad judges putting innocent people behind bars completely destroys that society's proper functioning. Moving on, JS Mill's point about gaining a clearer and stronger apprehension of truth through its encounter with error is also a worth noting. That can apply to "platformed" discourse or to private conversation. Consider Michael Jones' (InspiringPhilosophy) debate against Daniel Haqiqatjou (MuslimSkeptic) in 2023 on whether or not child marriage is morally acceptable. Some might think that choosing to debate that topic gives it a certain degree of credibility of which it clearly isn't worthy. However, an alarming amount of people defend it! Moreover, some "Influencers" with large audiences have even softened to the practice! In fact, those who hold to marginal viewpoints often find its opposition's refusal to debate as an indicator of its strength. So, rather than lend the practice credibility, Jones utterly humiliated it with the hammer of truth. Again, rather than aiding the cause of child marriage, the debate - by all appearances of its reception - was a massive loss for the cause. Also, concerning private conversations, as alluded to at the end, Daryl Davis' choice to talk to Klan members has not only eventuated in dozens of those people deradicalizing and leaving the Klan, but led to deeply meaningful relationships. Not everyone has to (or ought) do that kind of thing, but it is an obvious good. There's more to say, but I'd just be repeating what I already said in the video. Cheers, mate. God bless you.
Seraphim Roses view of Watts resonates with my view of modern spirituality coming into adulthood having been brought up Catholic…a smorgasbord of choice to suit oneself. Ironically I fell into it myself keeping an open mind to the idea that our consciousness was evolving. However believing in anything led to believing in nothing concrete and a black hole. When faced with the prospect of that abyss I realised that the only option left was to turn back to God. Back to traditional Catholicism and the spiritual light that I have experienced is one that I never did as a younger person. But the path went through Orthodoxy because of its fearless adherence to tradition in the face of modernist seductions. I appreciate its role in reminding Catholics of our duty to tradition and the truth. Maybe one day the two paths may again become one in God again.
Like, Share, Subscribe, Pray, Give Thanks. Plato, Republic VI.490a-b
This is interesting. I myself am very thankful for Jung. If it weren’t for him, I don’t think I would have been humble enough to see my flaws and my errors. This beginning stages of humility is what got me to first accept Christ, and then Orthodoxy. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on Carl Jung.
There are lots of teachers. Nearly all of them fail "the test of the teacher". So far the only ones that haven't failed are Jesus Christ and the Saints. I've been in a similar path as Seraphim Rose, except I never had money for university. I arrived a little later to nearly the same place though, and here I am. Will I become an Orthodox monk at age 58? I don't know. Let me learn to pray first, and be baptized. I have lots of reading to do.
Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu
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Thnks bro ❤
I was a hardcore atheist most of my life. I hit the bottom of that empty pit when I was in my early twenties and, following its logical conclusion, wanted to end my life. I didn’t, and through the orchestration of my life events I opened up to eastern thought, taught by the minds of Alan Watts and Ram Dass. It was Watts who really resonated with me, and when I had a radical encounter with Jesus Christ that I wasn’t expecting or prepared for, I was able to experience Him for all He is. I still carry that undercurrent of mysticism that the structure of Christendom seems to have lost. Behold the Spirit still opens up Christ to me to this day. Alan Watts was a striking human being who rippled into my life through time in ways that God was able to use to bring me back home to Him.
Thank you. Now I can educate myself properly ❤
AMEN ❤❤❤
So what if Alan Watts was an alcoholic. All the great artists and entertainers were alcoholics and highly flawed humans. But because of their skill they were able to make us see and think in a different way to what is considered normal. He also never claimed to be enlightened. He's an entertainer and that's it. If you want something more than that then good luck to you.
Title should be: Alcoholic misanthrope on Alan Watts
What?
I think rose makes some intense claims. Calling people pauedo this and that. I see why he turned to christianity. I enjoy rose and the orthodox sentiment. This said. Christianity and orthodoxy included treats those on their way with such harsh tones. I hear those that speak like hindus speak so compassionately and lovingly of those who have not found light. Those of the world. Christians (understanding that Eugene wrote this before his conversion) are often so convicting of those who do not follow their path. Derogatory of them. I find it fitting that father rose did convert. I like rose. I also like watts. I also like ram dass. And though i still go down my path, never will i call a misguided soul a devil. Nor will i fear the everlasting unchanging god. Just seems so silly to.
Yes, his language could get rather harsh, but it makes sense when one considers his (presumed) religious exclusivism with his eschatology (i.e. traditional doctrine of heaven & hell). So, the stakes are high and the consequences are eternal, in that view. Christians do differ in their view of other religions (and religious teachers). Rose's student, Damascene, wrote a book called "Christ the Eternal Tao," in which he mentions St Justin Martyr's discussion of "holy pagans" such as Greek philosophers like Socrates, and applies it also to some Chinese sages like Laozi. You might enjoy it.
Watts started me into the path of eastern mysticism. Ultimately I still listen to his lectures because he has a brilliantly worded basis. But I always find myself accompanying him with other speakers and teachers like ram dass. I must agree that Watts was an armchair theologian. But bless him still for all that he has done. Had not been for him many might still be lost and seeking. I know I would.
I do not understand why this guy is considered some sort of great mind or writer. I'm just going to assume some of his other works are more impressive.
The video makes me like Buddhism more funnily enough
How do you spell the name of that Taoist scholar? I can't find anything online
Gi-Ming Shien
@@CMBradley thanks mate
For the record, Watts died in 1973, not 74.
Thanks for the correction!
I can't find a debate between Hart and any of the people he criticizes probably because their philosophical foundations are so different that a discussion would be next to impossible.
Hart doesn't really do debates. He may have done a quasi-debate on "Unbelievable?" once, but his polemics are more so done through writing.
Someone with clout send this to Jordan Peterson.
If this happens, Ativan sales will skyrocket 😂
ok.... and... what?
Hart is a pompous windbag.
@CMBradley - Hats off to you, Bradley. Would you be willing to produce a summary including illustrations from his 2017 lectures and accompanied by his supplemental quotes? Icing on the cake would be to replicate/impersonate JPs voice. Thank you for the consideration. Cheers, rp.
Thanks for your kind comment and interesting suggestion. I'll log that idea for something in the future.
Read the letter that Fr. Seraphim wrote to Merton. ☦️
GOD is our greatest helper, guide, friend and beyond :) ☮️✝️☸️💚🙏
“Stop thinking about it and just experience it” sounds like great advice if you want to become an empty vessel for demonic possession.
Lovely stuff! Did he write this before the death of Ivan Illivich ?
Yes, it seems so; this ("A Confession") was written from 1879-80, right after which he began writing "The Death of..."
The desert fathers are my favourite of all times! Especially my abba anthony the great, my patron saint. Truly wise words. Amen 🙏☦️
Yes, Barath, they have much spiritual wisdom. If they are your favorite, then you'll love the video I'm currently writing the script for.
@@CMBradley can't wait!
Saw a video recently of Watts just going off on Christianity. Yet not once have I heard him offer up anything negative about Buddhism or Hinduism. Used to be a big “fan” or whatever you want to call it, of him in my early 20’s. Pushing 40 now and my how my perspective has changed!
Creepy