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I think the Kinu grinders are all excellent. I’ve tried the espresso burrs and they were a pleasure to use. I’ve tried the pour over burrs and they were some of the cleanest brews I’ve had although they did take a very long time to grind. I’d say the distinct characteristic of C40 is that sparkling acidity plus good sweetness which puts in such a great position as an allrounder. If it’s clarity (tea like brews) you’re after get the Kinu POB. If it’s just espresso, I think the Kinu espresso is pretty on par with the C40 except the C40 has a bit more in acidity. The Kinu does have better adjustment though unless you get the Red Clix for C40. If you’re doing both then the C40 could be the one grinder that does both. Espresso and filter call for two very different things which is why I just swap out between a filter grinder and an espresso grinder. :-)

@@madkatcoffee thanks :) but where would be the c60 in this comparison?

Oh of course! Ha! When it comes to espresso, C60 is in my books very hard to beat period, mainly because sweetness is so important in espresso. With filter, it’s a bit like different camera lenses for different things. I often find high clarity burrs to have more abundant acidity than sweetness so the C60 makes things a lot easier to get to a balanced cup without muddiness. But if it’s just clarity you’re after, Kinu POB and ZP6 are still probably the ones to get (I haven’t tested Pietro yet but I hear good things!), it’ll just take you a few attempts before you have a recipe/grind setting you’re happy with. I found myself switching between the ZP6 and the C60 because sometimes I wanted a clean lens to “see” the coffee but other times I just wanted a nice balanced cup. :-)

@@madkatcoffee sounds like the c60 is similar to lab sweet? And I already have lab sweet and kinu :)

@@johannesscheiber3193 Eyyy! Good for you man! You're pretty well set then I'd say! :-D Yes, closer to Lab sweet. A Weber Key is probably the closest thing to it. You'll notice a lab sweet in the background in the photos in the video. Yianni has run a bunch of comparisons with the lab sweet and the crazy thing about conicals at very low RPMs is how close you can get to flat burr profiles (think around 60RPM or even less) especially with something like a lab sweet that's trying to go for more sweetness. If you have the time, I'd try very slow grinding with the Kinu (maybe espresso burrs because the pour over burrs are a bit too slow i think :-D) and see how they compare with the lab sweet. Lab sweet will still present softer and more lingering acidity but you might be surprised at how much of a clarity boost you get just by slowing down the grind!

Yes it is :-) We’ll also share 3D print files for the lock collar adapters so you can print your own if you’re able to!

Slow feeding is totally the way to go! In fact working on something along these lines! :-D The 45 degree is interesting in that it slows down feedrate but also creates a misaligned load on the burrs causing inconsistent grind size (this is from tests performed at Comandante). This is the main reason why we’ve kept the motorizer orientation vertical. The Skope X works with Kinu M47! We have an adapter for it that allows for quick swaps between grinder types including Kinu and 1ZPresso.

@@madkatcoffee Hmm... Interesting! I was wondering if there were a downside to angling the grinder. It's crazy how I've only gotten into coffee around January and I'm still seeing new data by the day.

@@GaMEChld Wowsa. You got in pretty deep for such a short time! Welcome to the rabbit hole! Yes, there are a number of good peeps running heaps of experiments and putting out great content and information like @LanceHedrick. Great time to be brewing coffee!

@@madkatcoffee Yeah I've been binging Hoffman and Hedrick, addictive videos heheh

Hi there, you can purchase from our website www.madkatcoffee.com ! We’re sold out right now but you can join our waitlist for the next batch! :-)

@justanerd414 yikes thanks for letting me know! Will make sure to check for next time!

@tomsgrinderlab thanks for lending the C60 so we could test! Completely agree with you that it’s an awesome grinder. Benchmarked with a Ditting lab sweet and it did absolutely fantastic. Very hard to get deep bold flavours without adding muddiness and somehow the C60 manages to deliver! Looking forward to getting ours soon!

Hey @Anonymou5No1! We've had decent number of people ask about the J-Max so we'll definitely get a waitlist going for it! We've tested with the JX-Pro so shouldn't be an issue. Do you have access to a 3D printer?

❤️ Love this!

Coming soon!

Yea! Maybe a V.2 of this model? The other one is a little bit over the top. But maybe that part could be added...

Hi Tiyatat and alemholas! Thank you for your thoughts and feedback! While we enjoyed designing and using the knockers on the 1st version of the motorizer, we found that there was no better substitute for properly cleaning and maintaining the bottom of the grinder than with a brush. With the new Skope design we’ve emphasised quick and easy removal for servicing and maintenance so you can continue to use the Comandante C40 in the way it was intended, but with the addition of a motor for additional functionality. We will continue to explore and are open to new knocker concepts but for the moment we have no plans to include it in the design.

@@madkatcoffee that is a very good reason! Thank you!

Hey there! It sure does. :-) The included power adapter is both 110V and 240V compatible.

Hi Edward. Current pricing is AUD 399. Feel free to check out more product info on our website at madkatcoffee.com!

@@madkatcoffee Hello! When will it be back in stock? Thanks!

Hi Jo Yuan Hsieh, Thanks for your interest! The Skope motorizer can grind down to 1 click setting. Eight clicks on the C40 won’t be a problem. Incidentally this video is a demo of grinding at eight clicks for both the regular clix on the Wenge Comandante and red clix on the Ironheart. Eight clicks on the red clix is the same as 4 clicks on the regular clix. We’ve sold out the initial limited quantity pre order. We’re getting things in place for the next pre-order sale and will announce the release date very soon. Feel free to sign up on our website to receive notification once the sale goes live. Cheers, Madkat Coffee

Hi Khang Dang! Thanks for your query. We found that users could achieve a similar effect by tapping the side of the Comandante with their fingers. Please feel free to reach out for any further info. Madkat Coffee

@@madkatcoffee I saw that your pre-order sold out any idea when you might restock? Hoping to see some reviews coming soon.

here: www.madkatcoffee.com/ But it's sold out.

Can you ship to Korea?

Hi Fai Ca! We have a limited presale release with special pricing of USD$299 (ex shipping & taxes). Further discounts are available to our subscribers. Here’s a link to our product info page with further details. www.madkatcoffee.com/product/skope-motorizer-pre-order/

@@Dangkles think you mean the knocker.

wow, that's steep! You could import a Niche Zero for that money.

@@m.s.g1890 Niche Zero is many classes below Comandante.

@@JulienGaudfroy from my experience the difference is super miniscule i was baaaaarely able to tell apart that was a just guessing at that point

@@rajrishiparmar1362 with very good light roasts on V60 type pourover, with very good water, impossible. Now if your method and other parameters are not that refined, I believe you.

Hey could you tell me where you got that glass from, Put a link on it so I can get one too