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Your definition of Free Will, as put in your article in American Scientinst (2020) is in my opinion a dealbreaker; in the sense, that most modern philosophers, of the kind of Harris, Dennett and the lot, are either for or against free will. You head off by 90 degrees, and cast cosmos off from biology, and in my opinion, thereby uniting God and Cosmos.(- in my laymans terms.) Pro tem, you are my primary hero! (- which says a lot, me being an agnostic.)(By the way - you too - a little?)

Hey Bernardo! I like your way of thinking. An omniscient god? OK. But God is also all mightiy in the sense that he has all the power there is (omnipotent); and he is omnipresent to boot. What can the sum of those three attibutes mean? God is Cosmos. All is in him, by him and of him. Cosmos. That is the idea that came into my mind, listening to you. Tell me, is this just my crazy mind, or is it a reasonable perception?

He seems to say that dissociation starts already on the level of particles. But dissociation that defines an individual is on the level of a brain. Otherwise you must say particles are conscious. The field is plagued by theoretical dudes who don't know enough Neuroscience.

Comment from a mathematician friend of mine: "One of the weird things that has to be answered-so, included as a sort of correspondence principle in the next, (more) fundamental theory-is why the hell, for example, general relativity works *so well* and is so mathematically elegant while making fundamentally incorrect assumptions about spacetime."

The Bible gets it right again! Everthing detectable is made from that which is UNDETECTABLE! MARANATHA

True kentic force= m(v2 ),as E=m(c2 )❤ or f= m(a2)

his answer to this question alone is worth listening to the podcast...

Perhaps the self is ultimately like a strange attractor that organizes one's experiences in a certain way, that the attractor determines. Each strange attractor has a topological relationship with every other strange attractor. Meaning, we are each a homeomorphic space instantiated by a single topological invariance. Which is the ultimate reality.

I think most people project the complexity of the content of consciousness onto consciousness itself, whereas that may not be the case. Consciousness as the ground of being (Kastrup) might be something quite trivial in and of itself, whilst its content may be complex, emergent and subject to physical/information processing laws, perhaps along the lines of what Stephen Wolfram is proposing with perhaps the disassociated individual consciousnesses of Hoffmann making up the nodes of the hypergraph. The irriducible computation cellular automata of Wolfram under the rulian giving rise to the perceptual content of individual consciousnesses (Hoffmann's headset) but not the subjective aspect of it which is the province of the disassociated consciousness with all the qualia that goes with being a separate conscious entity. Time: The nodes do not necessarily spontaneously manifest within the hypergraph (birth) and spontaneously disappear (death) but rather shift location within the hypergraph, yielding a kind of random entropy, but not necessarily one from a quantum foam of the consciousness ground of being itself.

what happend to this channel? ( i guess it didnt die because it uploaded 720p in 2023 lmfao ) but srsly ?

'Consciousness is rooted in divinity" bullocks!!!😂 A being, not necessarily a biologic one, is conscious if it feels itself and it's souroundings, and interacts with itself and it souroundings. These are accomplished by having electronic and mechanical sensors. Sensors are the essential elements. A coke machine can sense a coin and drop a soda in response. It is conscious at a low degree. We are unconscious to X-rays. We go unconscious when a drug takes our sensors out. Consciousness has degrees. Without real proof, many contribute consciousness to quantum effects which are everywhere including processes in the mind. However that does not mean it is the only source of consciousness if at all.

Its bizarrely naive to consider the animal kingdom of die by eat alive that we primates emerged from as inspired by divinity. He had no real job in life. Protected by someone else his whole life.

You should vet these questions before you let people ask them

Just learned about this computer scientist. Interested in understanding his views. To me brains have neurons, we call the ability to process information a mind. That it simply arises from matter in reality, such as quantum. I have found that a species of worm is said to have the simplest brain with just 300 neurons. I wonder how few neurons are needed for awareness of self? I’d say these neurons are used for a function of sorts for sure, such as finding food for survival… but I’m just speculating on this

So much intellectual clarity, so little arrogance. Bernardo’s explanation of nominal subsets as opposed to dissociated boundaries of conscious entities is the clearest I’ve heard across many interviews ❤ Hoffman is also an extraordinary communicator of complex ideas

Qhat a really deep conversation even though Im not a matemathecian and a philosopher But at least I have an idea of what theyr talkin about Most briliant conversation Ive watch so far

Aeviternal

Donald was the first to make doubt as well

Physical beings arguing consciousness is fundametal (universally so) seems entirely counter intuitive. Its kind of like saying we as autonomous entities are discrete unitis, yet commensurate with the whole. But the whole is not the sum of it's parts. So Hoffman seems fundamentally wrong but i can't get what Katstrup is propising with this shut your eyes and tge world ceases to exist stuff, if i understand in ge least. All we seem to have access to is the material world. Thought is mysterious but seemingly emergent from wetwork. There are a million flights of fancy about whatever the hell consciousness is. None of them seem deserving to me of candidacy for real world modelling until theres sonething than conjecture. Until then I see meat that computes.

Non-human animals don't have 'mind'? Bold.

Jack I bet you could have a good conversation with Chris Langen

As a consciousness researcher, im building a model that almost similar like tom but im focusing on know all the attributes about ourself so we can make less damage to the world and people around us. When somebody like me build up a model, we keep switching left and right brain faculty. So its easy for us to make a presentation with less and less assumptions is needed. I can tell that donald theory of consciouss agent is very good and also with tom theory of LCS. It much be better that two theory became one overarching understanding. Its so hard first for living in paradoxical uncertainty idea. But we human are build in paradox within us so yeah. Why not

I repeat ;Wow😮.

Good to hear a vertical causality idea being proposed as a solution for measurement problem - and I wish Dr. Wolfgang Smith had also answered the question of where it comes from using quantum mechanics (as opposed to using “platonic cosmos” ) This brings us to our solution - Vertical causality comes from FSC(α) -- by it acting as the hidden variable/Maxwell daemon. In other words, it comes from our CPT function based mechanism (See below ) that limits/constrain the consciousness of infinite universe as a finite "Riemann sphere consciousness" Turns out, this measurement problem topic being one of the key research topics of our firm’s much larger “TOE driven Integrated problem solving approach called Sovereign Ocean of Everything" (covering 15+ disciplines), by framing FSC(α) as the hidden variable/Maxwell daemon - and do, I present our view, to see if it might open some collaboration possibilities.  Speaking of which, how about I start by answering the so called philosophical question of how classical reality emerges from quantum reality by "Gödel completing/proving" all $7MM prized Clay institute problems, including Perelman's already proven Poincare proof as one META-PROOF -using our “FSC(α)-HV-Maxwell’s entropic daemon embedded CPT function proof of Riemann hypothesis” -- in such a way to simul-solve 10+ more C-old problems as well (e.g. observable measurement problem as conscionable & 3+ bodies problem as 1 equiv. body etc )’ Sure enough, this meta-proof comes to life, first by augmenting Schrodinger’s WF as “Fourier-Poincaré-Hodge Duality & Riemann zeroed Schrodinger’s WF(see exhibit), using the following 5 Thought Experiment (TE) hypotheses and 5 preliminary predictions/implications 1. Our spherical universe is a "FSC-Maxwell’s entropic daemon embedded CPT function limited Riemann sphere", made up of 137 Frequency-Spin matched Riemann-zeroed dipoles(1/2+ti) 2. The imaginary part (t) of Riemann zeroed dipole is an eigenvalue of a self-adjoint operator (per Hilbert-Pólya Conjecture). 3. Each Riemann zeroed dipole starts collapsing(toggling) as a particle back & forth in such a way to be measured as an Eigenvalue using the CPT's Euler-Hamilton operator of e^2w/α=1 and by its vector preserving analytic continuation logic. Similarly its ˆX & ˆPs in between the eigenstates can be calculated using the coordinates of the Riemann sphere. 4. The collapsed dipoles start landing each time on the next lattice of the “discrete spacetime loops“(@Planck scales), thus transforming them into a smooth Riemann sphere (using our inbuilt FSC-Maxwell’s entropic daemon of CPT function without any cigar/singularities of Ricci flow of *Poincaré conjecture) thus giving us the feeling that the particle/planet is orbiting smoothly (as classical reality) like the frames of Muybridge’s Horse in Motion? (Note: This is where we've “Gödel completed” Perelman's proof of Poincare Conjecture using our inbuilt FSC-Maxwell entropic daemon of CPT function, as it limits the cigars/singularities naturally. For example, one way to grasp our solution is by imagining cigars (aka Witten’s black holes) as a churning Ricci flow happening within a "Maxwell-Planck length spherical engine" that is continuously “spinning”. This is when our FSC governed CPT function (acting as Maxwell entropic daemon) starts creating an entropic imbalance by transforming the spherical Maxwell-Planck engine into an hyperbolic Maxwell-Planck engine(aka reducing its volume by its 2/3:1/3 rule). This process then starts redirecting the least action into the next Planck lattice and so on and so forth. Similarly, in math parley, it is equivalent to a surgery to reduce the volume of the manifold (by a certain amount ε using the precision of FSC's 2/3:1/3 rule) in such a way that the growth due to the Ricci flow would not be able to catch up to surgical precision. In other words, this cat-and-mouse surgical game continues until the manifold separates into Planck scale spacetime lattices with distinct homogeneous geometries) 5. The classical reality emerges from quantum reality (per r = αR gaped 2 foci of e-orbit of dipole emerging using Feynman's eccentric foci sphere logic & Poincare/Hodge conjecture proof) so that we can solve 3+ bodies as 1 equiv. body problem(see exhibit) Predictions/Implications 1. Our CPT function/Maxwell daemon/HV limited Riemann Sphere is the consciousness(CONSCIO_SCOPE) of both universe & humans! 2. Each of the 137 Riemann zeroed dipoles, in theory are particles only, although some of them can't be measured as observables as they manifest as both quadruples and octuples following the Descartes quadruple circle geometry. (Note : For example, when we carefully study the Descartes quadruples, there exists a smaller circle whose radius is minuscule. This is where, we have also predicted (pending additional research), there is a fourth generation lepton particle out there in alignment with our quadruple model, which perhaps can explain the “mass gaps” existing in the Yang-Mills equations - all using our "r=αR dipole logic guided 2/3:1/3 rule driven CP-Yang-Mills-Koide-Descartes-Kocik formulas" of n+2 spherical dipoles in 'n' dim-spaces (lnkd.in/dxnNs_Xf). Similarly we have hypothesized a Quadruple/Octuple quark model for protons (including so called quark sea) with an implication that there might be an undiscovered fourth quark in the current 3 quark proton/neutron model (pending additional research) 3. However, we can measure all 137 particles as conscionables using the coordinates of the Riemann sphere. This is why we call the Riemann Sphere as the consciousness of the universe and humans alike. 4. The mass & radii of Riemann zeroed dipole particles, incl. their molecular spans (e.g. Rotaxane DNA model -lnkd.in/gtXViARr) is calculated w/ CP-Yang-Mills-Descartes-Koide-Kocik equations 5. The 3+ body problem can be solved as 1 equiv. body: Inertia of r= αR gaped eccentric foci Riemann-Poincare Sphere(s=1) = Σ inertia of Riemann zeroed dipolic/Hodge algebraic cycles (S=1/2+ti) That said, when I say I that these are prelim-proof/predictions -- it means that they have not been published in the research journals yet, partly because it also has a symbiotic causality with our much larger “work in progress” TOE research paper(and book)! Simply Put Our Riemann hypothesis META PROOF (i.e. FSC(α)-HV-Maxwell’s entropic daemon embedded CPT function) has "Symbiotic FSC/GR Fractal Causality" to these 10+ proofs (7 Clays + Gauss + Collatz + Maxwell's Daemon + Einstein-Bohr Hidden Variable and last but not the least TOE/SOE Engine itself. Once we grasp this, then everything will fit perfectly like a jigsaw puzzle! In a way, this "Symbiotic FSC/GR Fractal Causality" is yet another indicator that our TOE is the best bet path -- and I Iet you all decide! However we are 100% certain that these 10+ proofs have a "Symbiotic FSC/GR Causality" among them -- and so, directionally we are very confident that our META PROOF strategy is the best way to solve them together - which brings us to its implications to economics as summarized in the one page exhibit (facebook.com/charles.prabakar/posts/pfbid0aSP9Zu2brU4UqvR6tHQHzqZ7ecRSbnk9R4kSGvgZ2L6apxJsW1zB8zxSvVn3s29ql)

What dissociation like having severe agony.

Tinha que ser um br pra passar vegonha na frente de todo o mundo

Tinha que ser um br pra estragar tudo...

This is the dream panel ☺️

Dear Bernardo, can you finally clean up your Essentia Foundation of all polutions like the words Darvinism, Neo-Darvinism and anything connecting to that dishonest man. He was not a pure compilator, he even devastated great work, honest work of Jean Baptiste de Lamarck by eliminating any connection of idealism to the Creation. I think it would be great to delete such names from your so great work.

I would just like to say, in respect to one of your final questions, Bernardo's analytic idealism has had a profound impact on my life. In conjunction with many other ideas and work by others in several different fields, it is the glue that makes everything make sense. It may sound corny, but I feel better, more peaceful and happier having this view of reality. I think general acceptance in society would change much for the good. Good show. Thank you.

We have the free will to impact the evolution of consciousness by imperceptibly affecting the direction of our focus. For example we can move to the right by focusing on the right, causing wave to particle transitions where directed. We have the free will to explore different economic systems by focusing on the logical justification for the ones which best serves the purposes of the audiences which we choose to serve, be it the consumer or the consumed, be it the preacher or the prey.

Anybody know the name of the podcast this is from? I've never seen this conversation I want to find it.

Giants of our Times. Would add Eckhart Tolle to the list.

His ‘vertical causality’ sounds like it’s the Aristotelian proof of motion from potentiality to actuality which must necessarily begin with something that is pure actuality. St Thomas uses this as one of his proofs for god. I’m confused why Dr Smith talks of this as a new discovery and fails to mention Aristotle or St Thomas regarding it.

I'm having hard time swallowing that consciousness isn't timeless. Whatever the ultimate reality is, it has to be timeless. Because it has to be without beginning or end. If it had a beginning or end, it obviously wouldn't be the ultimate reality. IF consciousness is fundamental, in other words, the ultimate reality, doesnt it necessitate that it is timeless?

Almost as dangerous as nihilism. Turns the world into GTA for infantile minds.

1:58:00 I feel like nonlocal consciousness really blows up ideas of what we can think of with our animal minds. Nonlocal consciousness is the very essence of what gives us the ability to abstract ourselves WITHIN time to begin with. Nonlocal consciousness, existing outside of time, can therefore show us not only layers of ourselves that exist within time but layers of ourselves and existence itself that exists beyond time. This is what gives us the very powers of juxtaposition and the remote pristine environment to accurately perceive said juxtapositions. Granted, there are limits (presently) to our capacity to process these concepts and hold ourselves and it into the openness of the open (to borrow from Heidegger); but, if you follow the path of philosophy and the scientific method, we are growing that capacity. Now, who is to say that Democritus and Zeno were not equally nimble and acrobatic as Einstein, if not more so--but that Einstein simply was born in an age with more information accessible and verified with which to play from? There are certainly many scientists presently that are simply wind-up toys within the continuum, creatures of regurgitation with no ability to posit theorems. Admittedly, our sample size of three millennia is a small pool with which to draw from when contemplating the leaps within human evolution. But we do seem to be bridging that gap between our consciousness and nonlocal consciousness--or at least expanding our bandwidth to process the stream and perhaps even increase that stream in very subtle evolutions. Imagine the capacity of the human brain and how much we actually use (That we know of. I am sure that our science misunderstand much of this too.) and the tiny tunneling that must happen to bridge those synapses and build new ones. When looked at from this angle, this throws us back to the pre-socratic age stunningly and perhaps fittingly. We have reached a new plateau within humanity, which will likely require another three millennia of discovery.

I have to disagree with Bernardo on the idea that there is no evidence for design.

Can we mathematically model metabolism?🦧

Two of my intellectual heroes. Over the past year my worldview has been turned upside down by both of them. I recently took that 6 hour course on TH-cam on Analytic idealism, it provided it seamless logic refuting materialism. In 100 years, this will have the same gravitus as general relativity, quantum field theory, or Newtonian physics. They will be regarded with the same reverence as Heisenberg or, Einstein. Or I could be wrong!

I must say that these two provide a theoretical model that eerily matches my transpersonal experiences and consciousness as a fundamental of reality certainly resonates. I will be doing a video about idealism and NDEs/OBEs that appear to fit this worldview.

The jnani has a legitimate path to God Realization and perhaps Analytical Idealism is a valid western intellectual means of discerning Reality if it is competently guided. Bernardo needs a Zen master!

I truly resonate with Wolfgang's Weltanschauung😊. Very good conversation, very needed. Thank You❤.

Awesome! The thinking mind still trying to explain things. Nice try. You want real understanding, maybe surrender to being!

Thanks for this amazing talk! considering the "adding up" of minds, when our dissociative boundary ends, or we die, the contents of our mind fuses with mind at large, so wouldn't that be proof that minds can "add-up"? Wonderful discussion, thanks again! 🌿

This is just brilliant. Thank you

Consciousness is NOT fundamental. Mind is! And it creates deterministically Spirit, the revealer of consciousness, the state that induce actions, filtered to suit the individual. This is Right Hemisphere Dynamics, the new math of life and reality. An irreducible graph theoretical algorithm for creating order. Aka the law of universe(s). Love the author. Timeless deterministic non-stochastic stochastic simulation of reality. I am writing an Essay I hope will be received in love by the EssentiaFoundation. Thank you.

Don is the one who will make this mainstream….Tom does not have the understanding of what he is saying

13:18 this argument is brilliant. I have no choice but to accept it.

Tom's idea is philosophy, not physics. That's not to say he's wrong, but there's little in the way of measurables, which is the paradigm that both Donald and mainstream physicists operate within, and mostly for good reason. I would love to see them work together to try to apply mathematical proofs to Campbell's model, because it would go a long way in validating it. With claims so lofty, I'm sure Hoffman is skeptical of Campbell's ability to even perform the math necessary for "proof". I would be, and without any offering of having attempted the required math, it certainly comes across as a lack of rigor at minimum. And without any sort of measurable validation, there is no way for others to build on Campbell's ideas, from the perspective of physics. In philosophy, it's all perfectly fine. Someone could take the abstract and hypothesize further about why this or that appears the way it does, but it feels disingenuous to associate Thomas Campbell with physics while describing his "TOE".