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Doesn't Sonic still do that to this day? From my experience, SA1, SA2, Unleashed, Colors, Generations, Mania, and Superstars all still have this design of replaying until you master a level. I've done that same thing with all of these games, like I do with the classics. But I still do agree with the fact that "Sonic was never intended for the modern audience", that makes a bit of sense. But that's not really why people dislike him so much. In reality, it's SEGA constantly screwing over Sonic Team, causing them to constantly retry, and never giving enough resources. Then add the internet turning valid criticism to unnecessary hate, and you got the phrase "Sonic was never good."

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Sonic was never good. I had to deal with his shenanigans while I’m building robots and make Eggmanland!

What about the Spin Dash? What's its purpose from a game design perspective?

Guys stop talking about the series being bad It never was the charcters or Nintendo or the fans fault. Its sega s'dark ages that ruined the franchise. Watch this vid link it explains the sonic team suffering making sonic games in the 2000s . Sega never cared about sonic Theyve become greedy ever since they started the console wars theyve lost never get back up rely on bad corporate habits to make bad games for bank .

I will always think the Unwiished Day stages are a perfect combination of the diffrent pulls. It is extrinsically motivating(S ranks, 100%) but leads you down the path to an intrinsic reward(You get better and better and learn the stages more and in the end, you can push MUCH further than the S-rank time ever asked from you). It is easy to get into and challenging and satisfying to master. The game would not be any better if there was a barrier to entry, that's just silly.

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Can someone please tell me the name of the music that plays in 3:43 ? I can't find it anywhere and I really loved it

Why'd I get a notification for this video? I'm not even subscribed.

My opinion is that Sonic was always good, too. It was my first game series as well. I grew up with the Classics, and moved to the 3D games in my teens. I played the occasional Mario too, but Sonic always outleveled Mario in my eyes. There's just something so captivating about it, if that makes any sense. It's easy to get into, yet difficult to master.

I think a game like Sonic Mania struck a good balance between getting to know the level allowing for faster clearing plus still making it fun on a first go-around. Because like fighting games take a bit to ‘get fun’, so did Sonic for me, but with fighting games it felt like I was actively learning due to how matches don’t last that long and are constantly in a new context, Sonic is just the same level again with no real reason to finish it again besides just… wanting to. I’m glad Sonic’s structure has changed to be more balanced in that regard, because I think that’s why this ‘never good’ argument even came up. I think Sonic’s design was good for it’s time, but nowadays, like you said, there’s less reason to replay games, and sonic doesn’t have a bunch of tournaments happening that people watch. Fighting games are intrinsically but also extrinsically motivated because of that whole competitive scene, because of the community or to play against friends. Sonic had essentially none of that besides possibly the speedrunning scene, and thus I think it’s better that it moved away from that for a more balanced stance on what motivates a player to play it. Again, Sonic Mania did a great job at it. Sonic hasn’t fallen off because of losing his unique design identity, Sonic has fallen off because of a lack of polish and constantly reinventing the wheel. Very nicely articulated what’s unique about classic sonic design though, very nice watch.

Heroes for being both. The level up system extrinsically motivates you but since the game is so fun ehenyou gete good at it and don't die so you can keep the level ups, that fun factor intrinsically motivaes you to be faster.

My first sonic game was either Secret Rings or the DS Classic collection. Secret Rings is not good 😂, but I did like playing the collection. But the one I really played was Lost World. Despite the popular opinion I do like Lost World, played it all the time.

I'd say for me it's just how cool Sonic is, the only gaming character I knew was Mario when I was younger, but I found him fun, but with Sonic, something about his attitude and speed always caught my eye

Crash 4's level reward system should be a standard for all platformers

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Goddamn. You’re one of my fav TH-camrs now. Truly fantastic stuff.

Wow dude, this video was absolutely amazing. Loved everything about it!

Sonic was always a great character. Now Shadow? ... I mean, what does Shadow meaningfully add that I can't already accomplish as Sonic? He's the evil doppelganger trope with none of the charm that characters like Wario, Negaduck and Bizarro have.

Well it depends on the person everybody has their own views

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Sega games more approach to be cool and stylish like Jet Set Radio and Persona series that what's great about Sonic and his personality him jumping out of a helicoptor and doing posess in the air is what makes Sonic so good it's his personailty that makes him stand out more compared to a blank slate like Link

Sonic was never good? Ok buddy clearly your common sense broke some time ago turn iff your screens and Sit Tf down

Sonic still plays to the arcade roots Sega was once king in. And I think that's neat. Also going into a Sonic video and hearing 3rd Strike music blast out instead was a trip at first but the use of it made sense and 3rd Strike music slaps

excellent vid. need more of this!

Good content! You deserve more notice. Sonic was actually quite good.

It's simple, in boost games it's just you having the "Sonic experience", whereas earlier titles were you playing *as* Sonic. When that stopped happening, we lost interest and the last couple ones where we played *as* Sonic before the switch over to the Boost formula sucked (or Shadow, since he functions virtually the same), so that really didn't help. As I've found in Frontiers and replaying the Adventure games, nah it's not Nostalgia, those games are still pretty good.

Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3, Knuckles, Mania are great. Sonic Adventure 1 is great. Sonic Advance, Rush, 06 were ok. SA2, Heroes, Shadow, Unleashed, Generations, Colors, Forces are medicore.

"Sonic was never good" mfs when Sonic battles a government experiment lizard with a space station up its ass while hurtling towards earth as a sick rock song plays in the background (this is peak fiction)

holy shit our editing styles and tastes are extremely similar i have to sub up!

it's like those long ass video essays condensed into 7 minutes

Not bad at all, but the lack of analysis and overall understanding when it comes to the appeal of 3D Sonic, both Adventure and Boost games, makes this feel like it glorifies Classic gameplay style while diminishes the Modern ones, especially when it doesn't cover the many flaws present in those first Genesis games.

3:32 Not true. While extrinsic motivation can also play a positive role, it's more crucial for players to find their tasks intrinsically motivating. Also I don't like the argument of "old Sonic games were better because it had a barrier of entry". The philosophy you mentioned of getting better at the game so that you can beat the levels faster still very much applies to the modern games. Sure, Sonic is "going fast" regardless of whether you're beating a level in a quick time or not, and it's easier to finish a given level on your first try without dying, but the philosophy of "get better at the game, get better at controlling Sonic, learn the level, find the shortcuts, and beat the levels in a faster time" never went away.

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thought this video was from a big youtuber

Sonic 06 has its issues, but you can see the heart and soul behind the rush, while the story isnt necessarily good per se, it had potential that if given more time, would be even better, minus that..."super scene", Mephilas (please spell correct me) was a great villain, silver was great (minus gameplay), and cmon, Sonic (Present), Shadow (Past) and Silver (Future) having to fight Solaris in their respective time was badass. If given more time, Blaze would probably have had more interactions with other characters. The level design of 06 was great, i love Wave Ocean, White Acropolis, Crisis City, Flame Core, Radical Train, and Kingdom Valley. Mach Speed wouldve been phenomenal given the time (Project 06 showing potentially what they couldve done), the soundtrack was phenomenal, again, the levels i love have my favorite music, and then theres His World, All Hail Shadow, and Dreams of an Absolution, with Solaris Phase 2. Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) remains my favorite for the potential and heart put in it that most other bad sonic games like Boom:Rise of Lyric dont have

Basically,. Sonic has things from the arcade era that is very attached to Sega

W video as always. Loved the short music montages you included throughout.

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Love it

What song is at 10:16 (Chapter 3)?

You seem like an aspiring video essayist, so I guess I'll drop my two cents about the video. At first, it seemed well-structured and well-researched with you talking about the connection between ancient samurai and the Sephiroth/Cloud rivalry, as well as the broad ideological theme underlying the connection... But then the video seems to devolve into just reciting random facts about Sephiroth. You mention his sword, the inspiration behind the name, and the notion that it's a crucial part of his characterization... Okay? But what point are you trying to make here? Why bring the sword up at all? What would the video lose without it? And the second section is in a similar vein. It's titled "Characterization" but you mostly just keep reciting trivia about Sephiroth's development. What point are you trying to make here? Would your narrative lose anything without going over the voice actors? And this section doesn't really go over his actual characterization in the story, i.e., the actions that define his character. You just gave a brief synopsis of this in the first section, and then briefly mention the themes of the character in the final section. Wouldn't it be better if you dedicated the meat of the video to actually talking about how these themes manifest themselves in the story through what the character does? Not reciting the plot, but thinking about how his specific actions fit into the ideas of his character and the the story. Also, a few petty complaints about wording: - "level-headed person with a superiority complex" is a bit of an oxymoron, don't you think? - repeating the same wording several times in a short timespan ("force of nature" in this case) always makes it look like the creator is running out of things to say Don't take this personally and don't feel down from my criticism, especially since you yourself mention struggling with this video. I advise you to just be mindful about how you structure your essay and always ask yourself what is the overall point of the section and whether you supported it well with the examples or reasons you give. If something seems like it doesn't have anything to do with the point, maybe put it in a separate place or cut it altogether. Okay, I'm gonna stop more before I start sounding even more like a college professor. I'm sure that with enough practice, writing video essays will become easier and you will get the hang of them.

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Nice video. Would be awesome if you could do a video about a soulsborne game!

Great video, hope to see you grow

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Commenting for the algorithm. Love your videos man you deserve alot more attention wish you the best