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Why Artificial ISI for DFE Design & Verification?​
Why Artificial ISI for DFE Design & Verification?​
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Why Eye Diagram?​
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Why Eye Diagram?​
Why Single Pulse Response or Single Shot for ISI Analysis?​
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Why Single Pulse Response or Single Shot for ISI Analysis?​
Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate RX DFE?
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Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate RX DFE?
Why Full-Rate RX DFE?
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Why Full-Rate RX DFE?
Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate CDR?
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Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate CDR?
Why Full-Rate CDR?
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Why Full-Rate CDR?
Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate Clocking Serializer TX?
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Why Half-Rate or Quarter-Rate Clocking Serializer TX?
Why Half-Rate Clocking SerDes?
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Why Half-Rate Clocking SerDes?
Why A Multi-Protocol PMA?
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Why A Multi-Protocol PMA?
Why Process Evaluation for Transistor, MOSFET Active Device?
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Why Process Evaluation for Transistor, MOSFET Active Device?
Why Process Evaluation for RLC Passive Elements?
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Why Process Evaluation for RLC Passive Elements?
Why Slope Control CTLE in ADC-DSP PAM4 RX?
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Why Slope Control CTLE in ADC-DSP PAM4 RX?
Why Not DFE or Only-1tap Digital DFE in ADC-DSP RX?
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Why Not DFE or Only-1tap Digital DFE in ADC-DSP RX?
Why ADC/DSP-Based PAM4 Receiver?
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Why ADC/DSP-Based PAM4 Receiver?
Why Analog PAM4 Receiver?
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Why Analog PAM4 Receiver?
Why Dynamic Flip-flops or TSPC FF?
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Why Dynamic Flip-flops or TSPC FF?
Why Dynamic Timing Analysis for Setup & Hold Time?
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Why Dynamic Timing Analysis for Setup & Hold Time?
Why Setup Time & Hold Time Requirements of Latches or Flip-Flops?
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Why Setup Time & Hold Time Requirements of Latches or Flip-Flops?
Why Latches or Flip-Flops?
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Why Latches or Flip-Flops?
Why Synchronous or Asynchronous Logic Circuits?
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Why Synchronous or Asynchronous Logic Circuits?
Why Combinational and Sequential Logic Circuits?
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Why Combinational and Sequential Logic Circuits?
Why High-Speed Integrating Mode Phase Interpolator, IMPI?
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Why High-Speed Integrating Mode Phase Interpolator, IMPI?
Why IM PI w/ Inherent 50% Duty Cycle for High-Speed SerDes?
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Why IM PI w/ Inherent 50% Duty Cycle for High-Speed SerDes?
Why An Integrating Mode Phase Interpolator?
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Why An Integrating Mode Phase Interpolator?
Why Not A Voltage Mode or A Current Mode Phase Interpolator?
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Why Not A Voltage Mode or A Current Mode Phase Interpolator?
Why High Linearity Phase Interpolator with Low Power?
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Why High Linearity Phase Interpolator with Low Power?
Why IBIS-AMI?
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Why IBIS-AMI?
Why Not IBIS Model Only?
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Why Not IBIS Model Only?
Why IBIS Model?
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Why IBIS Model?

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  • @ToS-wp2zw
    @ToS-wp2zw 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks man!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi ToS, you're very welcome. :)

  • @loadingUserID...
    @loadingUserID... 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video thank you for this content

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you enjoyed it 🥰

  • @oseyedian
    @oseyedian 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DC Wandering was a very valuable information I was totally unaware of. I can't thank you enough.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi OSeyedian, nice to meet you. Thanks you so much for your feedback and I'm glad information was valuable to you. :)

  • @Greentangle
    @Greentangle 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    老师可以做一下ADPLL和各型vco的专题吗?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Green tangle, nice to meet you and thanks for the suggestions. I'll do the ADPLL. But I had a few VCOs here: 1. LC VCO Multiphase: th-cam.com/video/J0bKPaAbvxU/w-d-xo.html 2. Feed-forward Delay Cell for A Ring-based VCO: th-cam.com/video/kqL3HRjlums/w-d-xo.html 3. Multiphase VCO for An NRZ or PAM4: th-cam.com/video/lnj6xSTLuOI/w-d-xo.html Please let me know what else you need

  • @SAhellenLily
    @SAhellenLily 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you!Very well explained

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Lab_mangement, thanks for the feedback and I'm glad that you liked it. :)

  • @chandanchoudhary737
    @chandanchoudhary737 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi CC chen, thank you for the amazing tutorial for SERDES. I have one request for you to make some video on how to tune CTLE, REMOTE TX and VGA gains to minimize the ISI . Based on pulse response or frequency response. I tried to use pulse respones as tool to minimize ISI but when I check PRBS simulation result the it do not match with pulse response.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Greywhittef, Thanks for the good suggestions and I'll do it. :) Thanks, CC

  • @k4r4m310.
    @k4r4m310. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    !! wow, profesor !!

  • @JosephAziz
    @JosephAziz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are the practical pros and cons of impulse response simulation vs numerically calculating the difference between two step response (a positive and negative step response) simulations?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Joseph, Thanks for the good questions. I have comments below. What are the practical pros and cons of impulse response simulation vs numerically calculating the difference between two step response (a positive and negative step response) simulations? [CC] Are you asking about the correlation between the single-shot align with the two step responses? If yes, my understanding is that it should be equivalent if both responses don't saturate the system, which only assumes the passive elements of the lossy channel. :) Thanks, CC

  • @sumanchowdhury2724
    @sumanchowdhury2724 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video. I have a question. The minimum amount of Swing at the Slicer input is decided by "BER/Slicer input noise/Sensitivity/offset" ? What limits the max side? Can we have very High Swing at the Slicer input for both High and low frequency components of the signal? @1:40 : You tell for less dynamic range , sampling accuracy be increased or clockJitter power requirement is reduced? Can you explain in some more detail?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi SUMAN, Thanks for the good questions. I have comments below. Thanks for the video. I have a question. The minimum amount of Swing at the Slicer input is decided by "BER/Slicer input noise/Sensitivity/offset" ? What limits the max side? Can we have very High Swing at the Slicer input for both High and low frequency components of the signal? [CC] The maximum swing may distort the linearity of the summing amplifier and then the DFE might not work well. In addition, there's a reliability issue if the maximum swing was not considered in the design. @1:40 : You tell for less dynamic range , sampling accuracy be increased or clockJitter power requirement is reduced? Can you explain in some more detail? [CC] The less dynamic range may help mitigate the sampler's hysteresis and perform faster with a less clock to Q or input setup time. Then the clock requirements of the sampler can be reduced. Thanks, CC

  • @許育瑛-n5t
    @許育瑛-n5t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi CC, thanks for the sharing, it's really a gread video. I have some queris for the VCO and would like to confirm with you. There are PFD, charge bump and VCO in the PLL system, so when we input the reference clock to PFD, it's doing the phase checking with the feedback frequency, followed by charge pump to convert the phase into voltage, and then input the voltage to VCO, therefore, phase is controlled by the voltage to tune the output frequency. For the VCO, it's input the voltage and output the frequency, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Many thanks

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi 育瑛,Thanks for the feedback.🙏 Your understanding for the whole PLL loop operation is correct. 😊

    • @許育瑛-n5t
      @許育瑛-n5t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage Thanks for the prompt reply!!

  • @SAhellenLily
    @SAhellenLily 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Closed eye is very important for measuring super high Speed data analysis 🤔

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Lab_mangement, thanks for your feedback. Yes, the eys is is very important for measuring super high Speed data analysis. :)

    • @SAhellenLily
      @SAhellenLily 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👍👍😔​@@circuitimage

  • @ChristianeWalts-u1k
    @ChristianeWalts-u1k 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gorczany Spurs

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Christiane, thanks for feedback.

  • @PatriciaGonzalez-k6s
    @PatriciaGonzalez-k6s 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rath Avenue

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Patricia, thanks for the feedback. :)

  • @MelissaWalker-t4i
    @MelissaWalker-t4i 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beier Spring

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Melissa, nice to meet you and thank you for feedback. :)

  • @EricWoods-l7z
    @EricWoods-l7z 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blaise Flats

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Eric, nice to meet you. :)

  • @KevinJones-z1r
    @KevinJones-z1r 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Witting Turnpike

  • @KobeJames-ii4lz
    @KobeJames-ii4lz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks,whatis the rounting complexity of current mode PI

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Kobe, thanks for the good question. The big DAC could have lots of parasitic on the high speed routing.

    • @KobeJames-ii4lz
      @KobeJames-ii4lz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage CC,thanks for your reply,

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KobeJames-ii4lz You're very welcome. :) Have a nice weekend!!

  • @arnaud.lancelot
    @arnaud.lancelot 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I m afraid it s the opposite around. One should reduce the capacitance.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi @arnaud.lancelot, thanks for the feedback. Could you please elaborate on your concern?

    • @arnaud.lancelot
      @arnaud.lancelot 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage If the diff pair acts like an integrator, the gain has the form of gm/C. The input noise is (kt/C) /(gain x gain) . So input noise should look like kTxC/(gm x gm). So boost the gm transconductance for sure but diminish the capacitance C.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@arnaud.lancelot I agree. So, in my video, I mentioned, the bigger C the less noise, but the speed goes down.

    • @arnaud.lancelot
      @arnaud.lancelot 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage What i m saying is that you should look at the SNR, signal to noise ratio. The smaller the capacitance, the lower the noise from... the input perspective. So you increase the SNR at the input. But you also increase it at the output (gmxgmxVxV/CxC)/(kT/C) ~1/C So you reduce C. you go faster and has a better SNR. Reducing the noise is useless if you reduce even more the signal gain.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@arnaud.lancelot Thanks for the feedback, 🙏 and I agree with your SNR, which should match the input referred noise, which is the ouptut noise/gain, not just noise itself. 🎉😊

  • @NostalgiaT
    @NostalgiaT 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do we need equalization

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Ahmad, Nice to meet you and thank you 🙏 for your questions. Since the channel frequency response was not equal loss over frequency, so we need to equalize it. 😊

    • @NostalgiaT
      @NostalgiaT 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage channel frequency response loss didn't equal the which frequency?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NostalgiaT Ideally, you want the gain is the same over your interested frequency, which is flat. But a lossy channel isn't flat.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NostalgiaT This CTLE th-cam.com/video/zsuJMqadaKY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vpxIC-vZPHHTYV3d may show it.

  • @NostalgiaT
    @NostalgiaT 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's the difference between ctle and dfe?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Ahmad, Nice to meet you and thank you 🙏 for your questions. Lots difference and you might want to check all my videos😊

  • @BessieMamie-q5z
    @BessieMamie-q5z 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jacobson Walks

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!!

  • @hanyueli3147
    @hanyueli3147 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the nice video! Is 3D packaging the same as 'chiplet'? Looking forward to more videos on packaging!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Hanyue, Nice to meet you. Thanks for the good suggestion. Yes, that's correct. The 3D packaging helps the implementations of the Chiplet. Thanks, CC

  • @betu1207
    @betu1207 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great videos on channel !! But one doubt is how can the nyquist rate be half of data rate....shouldn't it be twice? i.e. 20Ghz and not 5Ghz

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Shivangi, Nice to meet you. Thanks for the good feedback. The 5GHz would be the Nyquist rate of 10Gbps. Thanks, CC

    • @betu1207
      @betu1207 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@circuitimage Thanks for your response... But it would be quite helpful if you can explain this..I am a bit confused

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@betu1207 Hi Shivangi, Sure. The simplest way of thinking about this is taking the maximum transition from any data pattern is the clock pattern, which is 1010. For example, the 1UI of the 10Gbps is 100ps, but the 1010 or clock pattern is 5GHz since the clock period is 200ps instead of 100ps or 50ps, so 5GHz is the Nyquist rate of the 10Gbps.

  • @KobeJames-ii4lz
    @KobeJames-ii4lz 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi,CC,could you introduce me the "background calibration"?thanks!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Kobe, sure. Nice to meet you. :) Is this ( th-cam.com/video/YsFg_ReBBzQ/w-d-xo.html ) you're looking for?

  • @abhiruplahiri1
    @abhiruplahiri1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video as always CC and pointing out advantages of FR DFE. With data rates going up and difficulty for PLL to generate FR clocks for Rx, HR clocking is becoming popular. E.g. for PCI-Gen5 32Gsps, I still see most PLL outputting 16GHz clock, so DFE then has to be HR.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Abhirup, Thank you 🙏 so much for your feedback, which I agree with a lot. My PCI-Gen5 32Gbps also applied PLL's 16GHz clock.😊 I'll put your comments in my next video: "Why half-rate or quarter-rate DFE." 😊

    • @abhiruplahiri1
      @abhiruplahiri1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage great, look forward CC.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@abhiruplahiri1 Thanks for your always support. :)

  • @장구-d7w
    @장구-d7w 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The interface data rate can reach up to 100Gb/s per lane. If we use a full-rate decision feedback equalizer (DFE), generating a clock signal becomes challenging and requires significant power. Thus, achieving 200Gb/s could be difficult due to the complexity of generating a full-rate clock at such high speeds.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi 장구, Nice to meet you. Thank you 🙏 so much for your feedback, which I agree with a lot. I'll put your comments in my next video: "Why half-rate or quarter-rate DFE." 😊

  • @matttraverso
    @matttraverso 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great content as always. I did note that slide 4 title has a typo. The slide title has "...Issue at the of the..." I assume you were debating to use "at" or "of". I'd suggest "of" as the phenomenon is not the location of the summers, but rather a property of having two summer instances.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Matthew, Nice to meet you. Thank you 🙏 so much for your corrections and for looking carefully, accidentally adding extra "the of".

  • @prankumar6288
    @prankumar6288 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi ,can you suggest some tap implementation techniques for DFE.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Pran, nice to meet you and thank you for the suggestions. Is this (th-cam.com/video/BZLVH-8JFys/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vhs3nMSafdXXshHz) you're looking for?

  • @yifengguo-t9u
    @yifengguo-t9u หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it said that a coefficient greater than or less than 0 means there is no requirement?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Yifeng, thanks for the question. Could you please elaborate on which time your refer to?

  • @SAhellenLily
    @SAhellenLily หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you😊

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Lab_mangement, you're very welcome. :)

  • @cpyi1
    @cpyi1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi PeiLife, you're very welcome.

  • @树多多
    @树多多 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, why need to add SR latch after strong arm latch? Is it to convert analog signals into logical signals?😊

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi 树多多, you can check my video: Why Strong-arm Latch w/ An Optimized RS Latch to Meet Digital Timing? th-cam.com/video/vMWY41DADFc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=R2mkHLYYmrRiC9P3

    • @树多多
      @树多多 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage thanks!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@树多多 ur very welcome. :)🥰

  • @BryanDick-x4m
    @BryanDick-x4m หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brock Squares

  • @MarshallJean-f3b
    @MarshallJean-f3b หลายเดือนก่อน

    Klocko Row

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much.

  • @breezerlxd
    @breezerlxd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, CC, Thanks for keeping posting new videos! I have a questions. at time 12.14 when you talked about the duty-cycle impact, I didn't fully understand why you said full-rate clock have accurate 50% duty cycle while in the half rate case the duty cycle can cause problem. Could you elaborate a bit on that? Thanks!

    • @abhiruplahiri1
      @abhiruplahiri1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess the point is duty cycle in FR sampling can eventually be sensed as an error and corrected for by the loop. Such impairment worsens the ber even in FR, but in HR the duty cycle error on half rate clocks may not even be sensed (eg A goes to left, B to right but T is aligned) leading to higher uncorrected error and thus higher ber. I let CC comment more and enlighten us.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Xiaodong, Thank you so much for the good questions. Also, thanks for the Abhirup's very good feedback, which aligns with what I tried to say. The duty-cycle distortion (DCD) may have a BER impact on all CDR no matter which topology or clock rate; therefore, we must do the duty-cycle correction (DCC) in another loop. The FR sampling's data & transition sample usually has a better DCC than the HR; therefore, the DCD of the FR is usually less. But adding a good design of DCC in the HR still can minimize the DCD as much as possible.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Abhirup, thanks for your very good feedback, which aligns with what I tried to say. :)

    • @abhiruplahiri1
      @abhiruplahiri1 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@circuitimage many thanks CC. Always looking forward to your interesting videos.

  • @suryanarayanpanda3610
    @suryanarayanpanda3610 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great.....can you please explain a bit more on how you choose the coefficient values of Pre and Post cursor taps. And 2nd doubt is can we see any case where you keep both the coefficient to be positive and in that case if the transition parts will have higher swing or lower ?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Surya, Thank you so much for the good questions. I have comments below. Great.....can you please explain a bit more on how you choose the coefficient values of Pre and Post cursor taps. [CC] I did the a single-pulse response to figure out the coefficients of Pre and Post cursor, respectively. And 2nd doubt is can we see any case where you keep both the coefficient to be positive and in that case if the transition parts will have higher swing or lower ? [CC] Yes, that's possible. We only focus on the data parts, but the transition parts could have a higher swing or lower due to the reflection. Thanks, CC

  • @ryanfu3016
    @ryanfu3016 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir you just saved my ass again

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Ryan, I'm glad this helped you again. :)

  • @xxw6371
    @xxw6371 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dr. Chen, thank you so much for your fruitful videos! I have two questions: 1. Are there any recent products of TSPC FF being used in the industry? 2. Samsung presented a new TSPC FF design in the VLSI symposium 2024, “An Area-Efficient True Single-Phase Clocked and Conditional Capture Flip-Flop for Ultra-Low-Power Operations in 7nm Fin-FET Process” but it seems like a static FF instead of a dynamic one. From the viewpoint of ultra-low voltage operation capability(~0.2V), energy consumption, and robustness, which is preferable?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi XX, Nice to meet you and you're very welcome. I have comments below. have two questions: 1. Are there any recent products of TSPC FF being used in the industry? [CC] Yes, that's a lot. 2. Samsung presented a new TSPC FF design in the VLSI symposium 2024, “An Area-Efficient True Single-Phase Clocked and Conditional Capture Flip-Flop for Ultra-Low-Power Operations in 7nm Fin-FET Process” but it seems like a static FF instead of a dynamic one. From the viewpoint of ultra-low voltage operation capability(~0.2V), energy consumption, and robustness, which is preferable? [CC] Unfortunately, IEEE has not put in online yet and I cannot check the paper. Would you mind sending it to me or share in your sharepoint? Thanks, CC

    • @xxw6371
      @xxw6371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage Thank you so much for your reply. Here is the link to the paper: vlsi24.mapyourshow.com/mys_shared/vlsi24/handouts/C25.2_Thu_Hwang.pdf

    • @xxw6371
      @xxw6371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage Thank you very much for your reply! I can't send you the Google Docs sharing link successfully. I guess the comments with links are automatically blocked in your channel settings. You can check whether Comment->Community->Automated Filters->Block Links is checked.

    • @xxw6371
      @xxw6371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the paper link: drive.google.com/file/d/1kWNMA77yZmEInZci1twO1B7JAaringy-/view?usp=drive_link

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​ @xxw6371 Thank you so much for the paper, which is very promising. But I'm not sure if that's really robust enough. 1. The input is not single-ended as the traditional TSPC 2. The differential signaling is good for PSRR, which might not be needed, but it adds the mismatch concerns. 3. Lots of elements of their LCFF may have more leakage and lots of parasitic than the traditional TSPC

  • @MrNonamel
    @MrNonamel หลายเดือนก่อน

    From you kind sharing, it seem to me the reason we downgrade from full-rate to half-rate and to quarter-rate clocking is mainly due to speed limitation. If speed is no concern, we always choose full-rate clocking? I would also like to know from power perspective, full-rate, half-rate and quarter-rate, which one is more power efficient? Any other advantage for quarter-rate clocking? Thanks.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi MrNonamel, nice to meet you and thanks for the good question. 😊 From power perspective, quarter-rate clocking is lower than the half-rate, and the half-rate is lower than the full-rate. But, the assumption is those phase correction or DCC and the complicated multi-phase routing is manageable in layout and design. :)

    • @MrNonamel
      @MrNonamel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage DDR5 DRAM divide CK clock by 2 to achieve quarter-rate clocking, I wonder if this is due to speed or power reason?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi MrNonamel, Thank you so much for the good questions. I have comments below. DDR5 DRAM divide CK clock by 2 to achieve quarter-rate clocking, I wonder if this is due to speed or power reason? [CC] Both 😉 In addtion, the quarter-rate clocking in DDR5 DRAM would reduce the EMI (Electromagnetic Interference) challenges & SI issue, which also related to cost. 😊 Thanks, CC

  • @abhiruplahiri1
    @abhiruplahiri1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks CC for the informative video. One more thing to add as a limitation of full rate clocking especially as speeds go up is the design of PLL VCO at full-rate. It is easier to make a more phase noise optimized VCO at half rate, e.g. 16GHz for a 32gsps link.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Abhirup, thanks for the reminder. I'm kind of implying it at the last Why half rate SerDes and this Serilaizer TX (if good RJ/DJ from the full-rate is doable in slide #2). :)

    • @abhiruplahiri1
      @abhiruplahiri1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimagemany thanks CC. Kudos to you for sharing such great information.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abhiruplahiri1 Thank you so much as well 🙏for your valuable feedback, which helps me improve the shared info and benefits other people in this IC design society. 😉

  • @jsysnd
    @jsysnd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, thanks you very much for your videos. I have one question about minimum broadband noise described in the spec, is it differential rms nosie or rxm rmp ports each have uncorrelated 5.2mV RMS noise?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Gman, nice to meet you. Good question. It's differential uncorrelated 5.2mV RMS noise. :)

  • @vietbach5036
    @vietbach5036 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much! Can you do a video about Frequency divider using CML Flip Flop ? Thanks in advanced!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Viet, nice to meet you and thank you for your suggestions. I'll do a video about Frequency divider using CML Flip Flop. :)

  • @xmotaic
    @xmotaic หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is it possible to have a architecture without drawback? Look forward to the following video about half-rate or quad-rate mode.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Analogue, nice to meet you, and thanks for the feedback. Yes, we'll also show the drawback of the half-rate or quad-rate clocking later. :)

  • @SyedTahaQuadri-b5e
    @SyedTahaQuadri-b5e หลายเดือนก่อน

    really good video! Helped me alot

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Syed, nice to see you and thank you for the feedback. I'm happy it helped you. :)

  • @layt01
    @layt01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are the best.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi layt01, nice to meet you and thank you for your feedback. I'm glad you liked it. :)

  • @abhiruplahiri1
    @abhiruplahiri1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a nice video CC. We can do one octave tuned PLL (1:2), we can possibly generate any lower freq. by div 2, 4...etc. The challenge of course is to do a 1:2 LC VCO with good phase noise. May be food for thought for another video 😀 For lower speed multi-protocol use cases, may be ring VCO is already good enough, any inputs?

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Abhirup, thanks for the nice feedback. Your experiences match what I have. My understanding is the NRZ up to 32Gbps, the ring VCO is already good enough, but not good enough for the PAM4 SerDes above 56Gbps. Therefore, the :2 LC VCO with good phase noise is Challenge. :)

    • @abhiruplahiri1
      @abhiruplahiri1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage thanks for the input CC.

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abhiruplahiri1 you're very welcome. :)

  • @zixiangzhang9205
    @zixiangzhang9205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a talented youtube channel I found for analog mixed signal field!

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Zixiang, thanks for the feedback and nice to meet you. I'm glad you liked it. :)

  • @SAhellenLily
    @SAhellenLily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting Serdes tech 😁

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HI Allen, thanks for the feedback.

  • @SAhellenLily
    @SAhellenLily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    謝謝您! 很棒耶!👍

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Layout_books, 非常感谢🙏😉

  • @k4r4m310.
    @k4r4m310. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    un saludo

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi HubbA, Thank you.

    • @k4r4m310.
      @k4r4m310. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage I encourage you to continue, but what I would like is to solve problems, but from the basics, you. It has very advanced concepts, it should be created as a course, in which it would give the possibility of getting at their level, VD. MUST teach (teacher :), ! I follow him :), greetings from Spain

    • @circuitimage
      @circuitimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@k4r4m310. Hi HubbA, Thank you for your encouragement and suggestions. I'll keep going and try to make a course for everyone. Likewise, I may think about writing a book for everyone if time is allowed. :)

    • @k4r4m310.
      @k4r4m310. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@circuitimage do it yourself , hágalo vd. un cordial saludo