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Wdym? I went through them and I didn't see anything sexist

@Idk-y3w2l Commenting on Bilinda Butcher's appearance isn’t just sexist-it’s also out of sync with the ethos of shoegaze itself. The genre values sound, emotion, and atmosphere over superficial aspects like image or beauty. Reducing a key artist like Bilinda to her looks is not only disrespectful to her contributions but also a shallow take from fans who should understand that shoegaze is about transcending those surface-level distractions. It’s a lame and unreflective way to engage with a genre that prides itself on authenticity and depth. Sexism is rooted in the unequal treatment of genders, often by reducing women to stereotypes or limiting their value. By emphasizing beauty as the primary or sole attribute, women are seen as objects for visual pleasure rather than as full individuals with complex identities. Women contribute to society in countless ways-through intelligence, creativity, leadership, empathy, and skill. A beauty-focused narrative distracts from achievements and capabilities, reinforcing the idea that a woman’s worth is tied to her appearance. Constant emphasis on beauty fosters unattainable standards, leading to anxiety, eating disorders, and self-esteem issues. Men are less likely to face similar scrutiny, showing how these standards perpetuate a double standard. Focusing on beauty often leads to discrimination in workplaces, politics, and leadership roles, where women may not be taken seriously. It sustains a culture that values women less for their minds and more for their appearances, further entrenching inequality. Historically, women have been confined to roles where beauty was a "currency" for survival (e.g., marriage markets). Insisting on beauty over substance undermines progress toward gender equity and empowerment. Men are typically judged more on their achievements, intelligence, leadership, or financial success than their physical appearance. Women, by contrast, are often disproportionately judged by their looks, reinforcing the idea that beauty is central to their identity and worth. Women are far more likely to be objectified and portrayed as objects of desire in media and advertising, where their beauty is emphasized to sell products or ideas. While attractive men may also be celebrated, their physical appeal is rarely treated as their primary or defining trait. Instead, men are often depicted as active agents (heroes, leaders, problem-solvers), whereas women are framed as passive objects of desire. Historically, women have been viewed as possessions or trophies, with their beauty serving as a sign of status for men. This perspective hasn’t applied to men in the same way. In film, advertising, and literature, men are rarely reduced to their physical appearance as women frequently are. For example, female beauty often accompanies narratives of romance or desirability, while men are portrayed through their actions and strength. A man’s perceived attractiveness rarely impacts his career prospects, leadership credibility, or societal worth as much as it does for women. While attractive men may be admired, they are less frequently commodified or reduced to their physical traits for public consumption. Bilinda Butcher is a pivotal part of My Bloody Valentine, contributing to their iconic "shoegaze" sound through her voice, guitar work, and creative input. Comments focusing on her appearance ignore or downplay these achievements. This reductionism reflects a broader trend where women in male-dominated fields (like alternative music) are valued more for how they look than for their talent or creativity. Male members of the band, like Kevin Shields, are far less likely to receive comments about their appearance, even though they are equally in the public eye. Instead, comments about men often center on their skills, influence, or creative genius. This discrepancy reinforces the idea that women must meet beauty standards in addition to excelling in their craft, while men are allowed to be defined solely by their talent. Constantly focusing on a woman's appearance, especially in creative fields, minimizes her professional identity and perpetuates the idea that her primary worth lies in how she looks. For the artist, this can be frustrating and alienating, as it detracts from the substance of her work and overshadows her contributions to the art form. Women in music are often objectified in ways men aren’t, regardless of the genre. From rock to pop, female musicians face disproportionate attention to their looks, while male musicians are celebrated for their skill, innovation, or persona. This is particularly ironic in a genre like shoegaze, where the focus is meant to be on the immersive soundscapes, not the physical appearance of the performers. Appreciating an artist holistically means acknowledging their talent, innovation, and influence instead of reducing them to their physical appearance. By shifting the conversation to her musical contributions, we can challenge the ingrained sexism that pervades commentary on female artists. Bilinda’s ethereal, dreamy vocal style is one of My Bloody Valentine’s most distinctive features. Her soft, almost whispered singing blends seamlessly with the band’s signature wall of sound, creating an otherworldly atmosphere. She played a key role in shaping the band's iconic guitar sound. While Kevin Shields is often credited as the mastermind, Bilinda's guitar work complements his, contributing to the layered textures that define the shoegaze genre. Bilinda contributed to the band’s cryptic and impressionistic lyrics, which align with the dreamlike, ambiguous aesthetic of their music. Bilinda’s presence helped define the visual and sonic identity of My Bloody Valentine, influencing countless bands that followed in the shoegaze and dream pop genres. Artists like Slowdive, Lush, and later acts like Beach House and Alvvays owe much to the groundwork MBV laid, with Bilinda being a crucial part of that legacy. Her vocal delivery and guitar style have been widely imitated, proving her lasting impact on the genre. Bilinda has often been described as a private and low-key individual. Unlike some frontwomen in rock, she has avoided cultivating a flashy or attention-seeking public persona. In interviews, Bilinda has occasionally expressed discomfort with the invasive nature of media attention. Her understated approach to publicity contrasts with the overemphasis on her appearance by fans and media. This attitude aligns with the ethos of shoegaze as a genre, where the focus is on creating immersive soundscapes rather than promoting individual personalities. Bilinda joined a genre and scene largely dominated by men, proving that women could not only belong but also define the sound of alternative rock and shoegaze. Her soft yet powerful presence as both a vocalist and guitarist challenged traditional rock stereotypes of hypermasculinity and showmanship, opening the door for more diverse representations in music. By being a vital part of My Bloody Valentine’s success, Bilinda has inspired countless female musicians who seek to make their mark in male-dominated spaces. Her reluctance to embrace celebrity status has also served as a reminder that it’s possible to focus on artistic integrity without succumbing to the pressures of fame. Unlike mainstream rock or pop, where frontpeople are often celebrated as stars or icons, shoegaze bands deliberately avoid focusing on individual personalities. Performers often adopt a humble, almost anonymous stage presence, letting the music speak for itself. The term "shoegaze" originated from the way performers would often stare at their pedalboards during live shows rather than engaging with the audience. This lack of theatricality contrasts sharply with the showmanship typical of other genres, further emphasizing the genre's focus on sound over spectacle. Shoegaze performances often feature minimal interaction with the audience, placing listeners in a more immersive, introspective experience rather than drawing attention to the performers’ personalities or looks. Shoegaze bands frequently featured women in key creative roles, like Bilinda Butcher in My Bloody Valentine and Rachel Goswell in Slowdive. Unlike many genres where women are often objectified or pigeonholed, shoegaze celebrated their contributions to the music itself. The lack of focus on visuals and individual performers means there’s less room for the kind of objectification or superficial commentary often seen in other genres. Emerging in the late 80s and early 90s, shoegaze stood in stark contrast to the larger-than-life personas of glam rock, hair metal, and even grunge. While other genres emphasized image and personality, shoegaze artists focused inward, creating music that was more about emotional resonance than external appeal. This rejection of the celebrity machine was a quiet rebellion against the industry’s emphasis on marketability, fame, and beauty. Modern artists influenced by shoegaze, like Beach House and Deafheaven, continue to prioritize mood, atmosphere, and sonic immersion over individual personalities or aesthetics. The genre’s commitment to authenticity and its refusal to conform to traditional ideas of fame or beauty make it a unique and enduring part of alternative music culture. Liz Harris, the mind behind Grouper, is a prime example of how shoegaze and experimental music can resist objectification. By avoiding the spotlight and rejecting traditional beauty standards, she shifts focus entirely to the emotional and sonic depth of her work. Her abstract approach to visuals and submerged, textural vocals defies the music industry’s fixation on appearance. Instead, she creates a space where listeners engage with her art on an intimate, personal level, free from the distractions of image or celebrity, staying true to the ethos of shoegaze.

Commenting on Bilinda Butcher’s appearance is not only sexist but also misses the essence of shoegaze, a genre that values sound, emotion, and atmosphere over superficiality. Reducing her to her looks ignores her musical contributions and reinforces a harmful narrative where women are judged by their appearance rather than their talent. This is part of a broader trend in which female musicians face disproportionate focus on their looks, while men are celebrated for their creativity and skill. Shoegaze artists, including MBV, Beach House, Deafheaven, and Grouper, reject the celebrity-driven image culture, instead focusing on the immersive, sonic experience. Shoegaze performers were often dubbed "shoegazers" for their tendency to stare at their pedalboards rather than engage in traditional showmanship, emphasizing the genre’s focus on music over personality. In contrast to the flashy, image-driven nature of 80s glam rock and 90s grunge, shoegaze emerged as a quiet rebellion against the emphasis on spectacle, instead prioritizing emotional resonance and sonic depth. In interviews, Bilinda has occasionally expressed discomfort with the invasive nature of media attention. Her understated approach to publicity contrasts with the overemphasis on her appearance by fans and media. This focus detracts from her contributions to My Bloody Valentine’s iconic sound. The focus on looks over substance stands in stark contrast to shoegaze’s ethos of authenticity, introspection, and emotional depth. Shoegaze bands frequently featured women in key creative roles, like Bilinda Butcher in My Bloody Valentine and Rachel Goswell in Slowdive. Unlike many genres where women are often objectified or pigeonholed, shoegaze celebrated their contributions to the music itself.

@@Idk-y3w2l Shoegaze was a genre that embraced difference and steered clear of hypermasculinity and traditional gender roles. Unlike much of alternative rock, which often emphasized aggression and machismo, shoegaze offered a softer, more introspective, and even feminine sound. Its focus on texture, atmosphere, and emotion allowed for a diversity of voices and experiences. This departure from traditional rock norms made it an inclusive space, though not without its challenges. For example, bands like Deafheaven have faced homophobic backlash, highlighting the tension between the genre’s acceptance of non-conformity and the hostility toward deviations from traditional gender and sexual norms in rock music.

@@Idk-y3w2l Shoegaze was a genre that embraced difference and steered clear of hypermasculinity and traditional gender roles. Unlike much of alternative rock, which often emphasized aggression and machismo, shoegaze offered a softer, more introspective, and even feminine sound. Its focus on texture, atmosphere, and emotion allowed for a diversity of voices and experiences. This departure from traditional rock norms made it an inclusive space, though not without its challenges. For example, bands like Deafheaven have faced homophobic backlash, highlighting the tension between the genre’s acceptance of non-conformity and the hostility toward deviations from traditional gender and sexual norms in rock music.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that

Alright slow down bro she doesn't know you😭