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Ageing Ungracefully Pushing The Limits
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Grand Canyon Rim to Rim NO MORE! Older Hiker
In this video we will cover why I am retiring from Rim to Rim hiking at the Grand Canyon
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Rim to River To Rim- Severe Cramping
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In this video I will attempt to answer why I experienced such severe leg cramping in the 10 hours after the hike was completed.
Rim to River to Rim: The Difficult Aftermath
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After completing the South Kaibab to Colorado River to Bright Angel Trail, things turned a bit ugly!
Rim to River to Rim: 74 Yr. Old COMPLETES SK to CR to BA
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On the cusp of my 74th birthday I took on the Rim to River to Rim challenge. Come along with me on this very challenging hike!
Rim to River To Rim- 74 Yr. Old Dr. Bill- New Drama Is this Hike Going to Happen???
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Some new developments are putting the hike in jeopardy.
Rim 2 River 2 Rim: Last Prep Extreme Training Hike
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So, it is under three weeks until my GC hike and my 74th birthday is fast approaching. This is my last extreme training hike, 21miles 20lb. pack, prior to the Rim to River to Rim hike.
Rim to Rim Big Announcement Old Guy!!!
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At the ripe old age of 74 I am heading back to take on one more Grand Canyon hike.
Rim to Rim Training - MAJOR DISRUPTION!!!
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In this video I am covering disruptions in the training process.
Rim To Rim Second 20 Mile Training Hike- Older Hiker -Wildlife
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As I close in on my completing my 74th trip around the sun, in this video I complete my second 20 mile R2R training hike in 14 days and discuss the physical impacts of the first 20 mile hike. Still two 20 mile hikes in 14 days isn't bad for an old guy!
Rim to Rim Training Hike: Long Hike, High Temps, Older Hiker
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In this video, I am attempting to complete my first 20 mile training hike of the season.
Rim to Rim Training - RATTLESNAKE On 17.6 Mile Hike
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Today is the longest training hike of the season at 17.6 miles. Fairly high up on the mountain I came across a rattlesnake on the trail that had just make a kill on a chipmunk. (Poor chipmunk.)
Rim to Rim Training For Older Hikers- 73 Yr. Old Dr. Bill Conditioning Legs
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In this very short video, I am in the process of reconditioning my legs from a season of hard skiing to longish distance mountain hiking.
Rim To Rim: Four Things To Do Part C
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First let me apologize for the "shake." This new gimbal system does not work anywhere near as well as I had hoped. I will keep working on it. In this video, the final installment of four things TO DO on your R2R hike, I am providing four suggestions/recommendations to consider before you leave on the hike.
Rim to Rim - Four Things TO DO On Your R2R Hike Part ll
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In this video four additional considerations of things to consider when undertaking the R2R hike.
Rim to Rim - Four Things TO DO On Your Rim to Rim Hike
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I am starting a new series of videos of things TO DO on your Rim to Rim Hike. BTW, in this vid, I made a mistake of habit. Indian Gardens has been renamed Havasupai Gardens.
Rim to Rim- Four Things NOT To Do On Your Rim to Rim Hike Part 3
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Rim to Rim- Four Things NOT To Do On Your Rim to Rim Hike Part 3
Rim to Rim: Four MORE Things Not To Do On Your R2R Hike Part 2
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Rim to Rim: Four MORE Things Not To Do On Your R2R Hike Part 2
Rim to Rim: Four Things NOT to Do on Your Rim to Rim Hike
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Rim to Rim: Four Things NOT to Do on Your Rim to Rim Hike
Jeep Repair For Beginners: Heater Core Flush Follow Up ASMR
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Jeep Repair For Beginners: Heater Core Flush Follow Up ASMR
FROM SUMMER TO WINTER IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE!
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FROM SUMMER TO WINTER IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE!
Jeep Repair for Beginners: Heater Core Flush (Budget)
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Jeep Repair for Beginners: Heater Core Flush (Budget)
Jeep Repair For Beginners: Replacing the EMIS Unit (Gas Cap/Check Engine Light) 2009 Liberty
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Jeep Repair For Beginners: Replacing the EMIS Unit (Gas Cap/Check Engine Light) 2009 Liberty
Where are you hiking? No hiking partner? Far safer to have a partner. My daughter and I were charged by a cougar one dark evening when a hike took longer than planned. We both waved our lights yelling aggressively causing it to stop just short. If we had been alone…😮 Happy Trails 😊
Hiked your own hike! Nicely done. 👏👏👏 Happy trails!
I understand magnesium is probabily the most important nutrient to combat muscle cramps and seizures.
Bill, watching your videos had given me the confidence to do my first R2R at 73. BA closed that day, so we did SK to NK in mid October. Was a perfect day. Stay well and keep moving!
I just read something about a "bear banger". What stuff did you carry for critter protection? Granted, you're not fat enough for a full meal but as an appetizer/snack, you might be appealing to them <grins>
Jack Kirkhams owned AAA Tent and Awning, which became Kirkhams and then Springbar, the name of the tent he created. Springbars newest tent is called the Jack Kirkhams Skyliner bc J Kirkham Jr designed it. Jr may still own the company but he is no longer ceo.
It certainly is a good tent.
I'm only 72 but really enjoy having time to see the canyon (in the daylight). I did S. Kaibab (the only show in town) at Halloween and spent two nights in the campground at Phantom. My heart hovered near 130bpm most of the 6 hours on the way back up. It was a wonderful trip, did little training, came home happy, and won't need a stress test for a while. It is OK to have fun, too.
Great time on the way back up!
In 2005, there was a guy named Laurent Gadreau, aka "Maverick " who at age 80, hiked rtr more than 100 times. He said he would still be doing it at age 100, but in 2007 he shot his wife dead then turned the gun on himself.
Very sad story. I wonder what his motivation was?
@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 He lived in GC Village. The news I read blamed it in the long cold GC winters. I don't buy that at all. Anything from drugs, alcohol or mental illness may have been the reason.
I would say closer to 5 out of 250 who could do it at 75.
I had a similar experience once though not as severe as my hike was not as severe. I learned that I wasn’t ingesting enough electrolytes during my hike nor the correct balance of them, so it bit me later. My severe cramping developed post Trail also, primarily in my hands, feet, calves and toes.
Kristy, Sounds like it was rough for you. Isn't it amazing how painful those craps are?
There’s an entire country out there. Come on out and hike the John Muir. I just did it at 61, and saw MANY people MUCH older than me out there. If you’re in SO Utah, hitting it going NOBO is the way to go, + far easier to get a permit. just cross Nevada and you’re here.
I am 67 and 5 weeks ago I did my 1st and probably last Rim to River GC hike (S Kaibob to BrightAngel). For me it was a bucket list item challenge I wanted to achieve. I agree, I don't know that I want to dedicate the time/training effort necessary to do this again.
Jose, congratulations on completing a difficult hike!
I’ve been doing Kiabab trail to River up Bright Angel trail now at least once a year for 16 years now. However I think my years are winding down. I’m 65.
Thak you for watching. Let your body tell you what your limits are. As you well know, you have been tackling some pretty difficult hikes, congrats. That downhill on SK is a bear.
A swig of apple cider vinegar instantly makes cramps go away. I keep a bottle on my nightstand. Don’t laugh, it works!!
I will give it a try, thanks for the info!
There are other canyons to explore and mountains to climb... I have enjoyed these videos.
Charlie, always glad to hear from you. I was thinking about you today, Christmas music is on and I was remembering our HS Christmas musical. For anyone reading this post, related to comments I made in this video, Charlie is a class friend from freshman year of HS as is Stanner 68 and Graham Kistler P4H.
The GC hikes area lot of work and planning, if you notice there not many pics on the up hill portions of these hikes, it s all business to get out of the GC.
Steve, you most certainly are right about the ascent out!
I'm a healthy 72 year old that knows that at this age there are unknowns as to limits, but we've already outlived so many peers, so if I die doing something that I enjoy I just have to say there's a lot of other ways to die I'd rather not experience.
I am 60 and I want to hike Rim-to-River, with an overnight stay at the Phantom Ranch. It has been hard to get a reservation.
Last week I did South Kaibab to Tonto West to Bright Angel. Save yourself 4 miles and a 1000 feet of elevation, and no need for Phantom Ranch reservation. I was lucky, started out at 26 degrees and low 50s in canyon. Water was still on at 3 mile and 1.5 mile. I,m 62 and I trained pretty good for this though the downhill is the hardest. Used poles, hiked "correctly" to save knees and did good foot care to prevent blisters. Uphill was easiest part. Little over 9 hours. Great alternative hike for you, especially if you can avoid the heat.
@@grmgrm5546 Thanks for the tip. I had thought about the Tonto route, as well. The downhill is the hardest for me too.
Do what you want and enjoy each day. You are a rock star.
Very kind words, thank you!
Willy I love you and I love watching your vids. Just seeing you in action is amusing and satisfying to me. Tell these people about 809 Buffalo Ave. That would give them a laugh! Especially the time the landlord came in unannounced. G.
Hammer, always so great to hear from you. Hammer and I have known each other since we were 13 as Freshman. After college, we were roommates for a year and sixty years later remain close friends even though we are separated by more than half the continent!
Okie-dokie. Make it fun not work. And it does get expensive. But in some ways it is also the tail that wags the dog and keeps you healthy and engaged? Respect your decision and all the best.🙂
I'm 68 and a few years ago I section hiked the first 152 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail over a few weeks. I was in the best shape I had been in for a long time after that, but I don't think I would have been able to do a rim to rim Grand Canyon hike. That is really impressive, and you just can't compare yourself to most people your age. I would think one of the best things you can do to prevent a heart attack is to continue to hike as you are doing. I can't imagine your heart getting healthier if you started just sitting on the couch, like most people our age.
Congrats on the PCT!!!
Dr. Bill may not be doing the GC again, but I don't think he'll be " Just sitting on the couch " either...
I'm 73. Recently moved to the Colorado mountains and love to hike with a particular focus on elevation gain and mountain tops. I've thought about how much can I push my body. How much can I really do? Bottom line for me is I am just going to continue to do what I love until my body sends me the unmistakable message that I've gone too far or just can't do it.
I look at it this way. Will the activity I am doing likely lead to another injury? Will I be able to recover from that injury at my age? I think walking and trail hiking offer the best risk vs. reward for older adults.
Jay, it really is a question for each of us regarding how we choose to handle advancing years.
An out of shape 40 year old could drop just as dead as a 74 year old. Your own body is what determines what you can and can't do, not some bell curve according to age. If you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't. If you do (and you want to do it) do.
I think one home with your wife will get you back on the trail. K2 maybe?
you look real fit and I also think the problems you had were due to altitude. do you think the symptoms you experienced could be related to too fast/strong an ascent out of the canyon bottom back to the rim? It looks like that is about 4800 feet in around 8 miles if I have the correct info.' ..
T, I wish I could say that I made a fast ascent out of the canyon but actually I only averaged 1 MPH from the river up to the rim. Thank you for watching!
These are all valid points. They really are. My gosh, you have achieved more than the average person. You have a lot to be proud of. You can always take us along on other pretty hikes close to your home or even another town. The point I’m trying to make I hope you keep hiking, and if you get bored on the hike, you can always start filming. And then you’ll feel like you have a friend along. But there’s other hikes besides the Grand Canyon that are less strenuous and are beautiful that you can show us sometime. Anyway, those of us who watch your channel really love it so whatever you show us we’ll like. Thank you.
I hear what you’re saying. I did R2R a couple years ago, R2R2R last year at 71 and this year did a 4 day backpacking trip in Yosemite. It was to have ended with the climb up Half dome. I made it up to the cables but did not have the energy to safely make the climb and also the trip down the mist trail to the valley that day. It was very disappointing, but made me realize I might be finished with big adventures.
Mary, still, quite an accomplishment at Half Dome!
Awww but I accept your sincere message. So what will your wife do with you hanging around all day instead of going away and training (for her peace and quiet)? <giggles>
Dr. Bill, what you've done at the Grand Canyon is spectacular!
Such excellent advice all 4.
I just slept in mine for three nights in the CA desert with 40 mi winds. No problem.
Kathleen, they are great tents, no doubt about it. I made two trips to Yellowstone this summer using the tent. I just wish I could find a tent heater that works at 5k' and higher so I could use the tent longer into the seasons. Thank you for watching!
What altitude do you live at? altitude, age, it is all a mystery!
GC I live at 5k', but have recognized as I have gotten older that I am becoming more sensitive to altitude changes over 6.5k' for prolonged periods. I do adjust, it just takes me a couple of days. The Ystone trip was between 7-8k' and adjusted in a couple of days and fished for 5 days w/o further incident.
@@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 I too find that I am more sensitive to change as I age.
Always great to see you out on a hike, Dr. Bill! Hope you two kids are doing great!
Wow! No understanding how I got here before you made your posting announcement but here I am! Obviously I need to continue nagging to get you to change your mind on not doing #4. Question regarding O2 levels and altitude - do you own a PulseOX finger measuring device? I wonder what your O2 levels were as you hiked, especially if the O2 level in the atmosphere is <18% as it is normally at sea levels.
Kevin, I do not own the device. One thing I have noticed however is that I am showing greater sensitivity to altitude as I have gotten older. I did train regularly at altitudes of 7k' but did not stay at that altitude for a prolonged period as I did at the GC.
@@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 CVS sells them for around $50 and they weigh about 2-3 oz. I have no clue why you cot the cramps and I don't play doctor but I like your earlier comment "folks say it has to do with getting older" <smiles>
For general hiking, and let’s say you wear the sock liners, can you wear any socks over the liners or do you recommend a certain sock over the liner?
Pal, when I hiked the GC I used "darn tough socks." But other than that specific set of hikes, I use general hiking socks. I am going to be doing an upcoming vid over the winter for a good budget hiking sock that I regularly use which is a fraction of the cost of typical good hiking socks. Stay tuned!
@@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 great. Looking forward to the video.
Great video. I hadn’t seen this one. Oh so you had the leg cramps on the second GR hike?! Shoot. Well that hike is not for the faint of heart. I’m a “want to be” but not there yet but can only imagine. Again you are so inspiring and helpful. Thanks Dr Bill. Keep making the vids.
Thank you for the kind words!
Oh wow. I’m sorry you had such pain after your hike on and off. I wonder if you didn’t have enough protein. I don’t know. It sounds like you enjoyed the hike though and this was a new problem afterwards, but who knows why. Any little imbalance could’ve caused it possibly. I’m really glad you recovered from it in the three days. Again congratulations and that is quite a feat you undertook and you succeeded! I can’t imagine the good feeling you must have from doing that three times.🙏👍
Pal, you are next up in the batters box! Thank you for watching!
I finally got to watch this video and my gosh, you are just unbelievable. Fantastic job. I know you trained hard for this and you’ve done it before but I’m sure it’s hard as heck to do. You should be very proud of yourself and I am very, inspired by you. I know it’s your last time but there’s other goals and things you can do. Never give up. You deserve all the credit in the world! Thanks for taking us so long. Keep doing the videos though.
Thank you for the kind thoughts!
@@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 OK, if you ever change your mind on doing the hike again, it would be great to see a video of you and GC hiker together doing the hike. Just think of a great video that would make!
@@pal1786 Or GC, myself and YOU!!! But alas, I am retired!
Thanks but you CAN'T retire without doing the BA r-r-r hike. I agree with GC-Hiker, If it's there, you must! Would promising another few nights in LV provide spousal permission? <wink> Besides, you still owe us a few video's while hiking of things like eating, critters you encounter, etc. Call it your "Z" hike - nothing comes after it..... ;^)
Thanks for the comment but I am RETIRED from extreme hiking.
I apologize for the end cards at the completion of the video, I am experimenting with it and it did not work out as well as I hoped. All the first card said was that I completed the hike without losing any toenails or getting any blisters.
Those are fine Dr. Bill. When you're using those in the TH-cam editor (and you can go back and change them now); you can select different "End Screen" options. And whatever option you choose, you can put your cursor on those boxes or the subscribe circle if you want to use one, and slide them around on the screen, to change their position. You can also click on the 2 slider bars at the bottom of that "End Screen" area, and slide the colored bars more to the right, which makes them appear later in the actual timeline of your video. So you could have the "End Screen" boxes appear after your statement slides, or you could have just a subscribe button appear first, in a lower corner or upper corner, where it's out of the way of your slide, and then at the very end, have a box showing a previous video, appear. You can play around with making those changes to this video, and if you don't like them, change them back, or completely remove the end screen options. Doing so won't damage or have any effect on your actual video. Kind of fun to play with.
Excellent aftermath report Dr. Bill, and I appreciate you mentioning me, both here, and in your Rim-To-River video! LOL... that first 24hrs after IS NOT for the faint of heart! I'm glad you didn't actually crash-and-burn on the S.Kaibab. That would have been no fun at all. Great job hammering out another adventure in the Canyon. When she calls, we must answer!!
Todd, I can't believe that you run the SK, that trial is a f'n mess.
@@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 It's an absolute blast to come storming down it, and try to make it to the entrance to Black Bridge in one hour. Twice since 2021 I've raced other runners to the bridge, both times without carrying a camera (and all the non-sense that goes on with trying to shoot a stable/useable video for the channel) and the increased speed was so much fun. Same goes for flying down N. Kaibab in complete darkness with just a headlamp. Mind candy!
'Imagine going to bed at 11pm in Vegas.' Ha. As I get older I can only imagine 11pm bedtime, unless I do some extended exercise, like paddling, cycling, or walking. Thanks for heads up on hiking sticks. I was going to comment on big toe nails, but I see you put a text with the term toe nails on your final screen. I can't read it with the two 'links' displayed on top of text. I'm currently treating a tender big toe nail with my concoction of Aspercreme mixed with DMSO.
I was experimenting with that form at the end of the vid and don't like it for the reason you mentioned. The card said that I did not lose any toenails or have any blisters during the hike. Thank you for watching.
You are awesome. That was some painful cramps. Absolutely poles.
It was a tough 36 hours, fortunately it was not longer. Thank you for watching!
@ageingungracefullypushingt7135 I ended up with hamstring cramps after a steep hike that I stumbled on. Glad you are good.
I could not help but laugh at some of the post-hike symptoms you described, maybe because I sometimes have them myself. If I were to guess, it would be that your slides and near-falls caused some of the problems. To me, if you want to do the cowboy loop, it would be best to go down Bright Angel and then up Kaibab. I think mature hikers should think very carefully before going down South Kaibab, for me, that is the worst. Hey, you still have one more hike left to do, rim to river to rim on Bright Angel (my favorite hike). Sorry, you can't retire from hiking the Canyon yet! 😉
You needed something that contained ALL 4 electrolytes- Calcium, magnesium,potassium and sodium. I found on my long bike rides I was lacking magnesium. I had the cramping you are talking about after long distance riding. Now I supplement with magnesium every day along with a multivitamin. I also use NUNN tablets - they have to appropriate amount of all four electrolytes without the sugar. I now carry one bottle of water with NUNN added and one bottle of reg water plus a tube of NUNN. If I am hiking I added a tablet to my camelback and carry a tube of NUNN tablets. I also continue drinking water with NUNN tablets post workout- no more cramps
Becky, I handled the electrolyte situation well I believe, but I am pretty sure I found the answer as to why I cramped up while at rest. I filmed a vid on it today, should be out in about 10 days.
electrolytes, did u take any while you were cramping? Over hydrate and you lose electrolytes. I take salt stick tablets it i feel any cramping about to happen.
Steve, I managed the electrolyte situation pretty well. I think I have figured out the problem, recorded a vid about it today should have it edited and published in about 10 days.
GC I have a pretty good idea what caused the leg seizures. I was out on an 11.5 mile hike today and recorded a vid about it, should be ready in 10-12 days. I watched your BA to CR to BA vid, was actually thinking about it on the hike today.
You have notched another great R2R!! Bravo!! You certainly pushed the limits with your difficult aftermath but glad you've overcome the pains. Will miss GC this 2024 but planning solo NK/BA 2025 before turning 72. Your experience is alerting me to better prepare for post hike recovery and the logistics thereof. I am from Canada and don't know anyone in the US. Again, thanks for sharing and your inspirations.
A.K. if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Also, I recommend two other sites, "ToddM" he is a Grand Canyon Beast and very knowledgeable about the trails and "GC Hiker" also knowledgeable about the GC in general and the hiking trails. Both are older hikes.
Awesome job, I remember running into you training a few times on my local trails while riding my mountain bike. Glad to see your on the better side of recovery sounded rough.
Was out on a 11.5 mile hike through Rudys, hope to see you on the trail soon!