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Cheers. It's a lovely car and engine bay.

It is. It's recorded directly from the vr, which is 1080p max. In this one I've recorded it in HDR, give it a bit more pop. It's not a true representation but it's very close. I don't know how other people are getting a 4k recording because when you start recording it states recording is set to 1080p because of vr. I may be missing something but. The overall experience is very immersive, but it doesn't make the cars more detailed from my normal comparisons in the livery.

@@nihilityjoey Is a VR headset required to explore your cars like this in gt7?

​@@bungwohlioUnfortunately it is.

Ps5. It's not on PC.

It does indeed. But then again both games have great lighting.

Definitely. And I'm not hearing anything about "GT is a cross gen game". It was stated multiple times by polyphony that gt7 was made to take advantage of the ps5. It took the pro to get ray tracing in game on GT. The GT track isn't bad at all though. I'll be putting out the in-depth look at both.

For me, there's one detail missing that would add to the immersive experience for Forza, it would be the kangaroos entering the track XD

​@andrededecraf😂😂😂, your aim while racing is to try and dodge them.

Cheers. The model gets let down because it's unfinished, and this seems to be an issue with some cars in the game. I wish they would have lowered the number of cars for launch, that way they could have put their effort into the detail of the launch cars. Also if you compare the interior detail and resolution, the Forza model is better. People using vr to show of the interior is 1) not indicative of most players experience. 2) of a lower resolution to begin with, and uses foveted rendering push the detail to where you are looking, so outside of that is blurry and of a lower Polly count. And for me the most important detail 3) having more immersion doesn't make the interior more detailed, as some people would like to have you believe. Vr is good for immersion, it doesn't make a game look better or increase it's detail just because you're viewing it in vr. Polyphony do take the time make sure their models are accurate, which the artists in Forza could take a lesson from, because (as seen with recent models) when they do take their time and put the effort into the detail, it's no competition.

If you have the disk version yes.

What is your point here? Did you even bother to read the description of the video?? I don't think you did. But I'll pin your comment anyway, to display your inner rage. This video was about how, unlike Forza you don't have all available weather or time of day settings for all tracks, it varies. That's the point of the video.

@nihilityjoey Since you're lost as usual and are the one actually expressing anger and not me, I'll spell it out for you. On Racingvistas video, you went on about how bad Gran Turismos career is and the Cafe system. I just came here and noticed what level you are and also saw on your menu screens that you never unlocked weekly races or anything. Got it yet? In other words, you barely played the game to know what it offers.

chaos theory is my favourite of the games, really like them all, will post them all as well, this game was the freshest in my mind. great series. A remaster is confirmed as far as I'm aware, very hyped as well.

You've always been able to see the stitching in Forza, so that's never been true.

It's also being displayed at 1080p which is the recording cap for the series s. I play on a 32 inch 1440p curved monitor, and it does look better than this recording. You are correct though, it can't match those platforms, however I would recommend this for anyone looking to set up a SIM rig. Games like ACC, AC, iracing etc all rely heavily on mods on pc to look half way good, this game on series s makes those games look like crap on an equivalent pc, or console equivalent £250. Absolute bargain of a system in my view.

It can be a bit dark. HDR gives it the kick it needs. Cheers very much. My videos are done impartially and I take my time to show the models and use the slow sweeps to show depth. I'll be getting a psvr2 so I'll be doing more comparisons.

Indeed. Lovely sound.

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@@nihilityjoey Wow Ok surprisingly the one I saw had a more yellow color, seems there are 2 options. Forza definitely looks accurate to this one👍

​@@M-hq9xzIt's more down to the variants that can happen between paint batches. A lot of colours have slight hue changes over the cars production cycle, batches can differ slightly. That's why I would say both have done a good job.

GT7 is better in every single way. Cope harder xbot 😅

​@@MichaelM28You need to calm down and go get a hug or something.

The showroom shots are visuals mode, the track will be performance raytracing.

​@@nihilityjoeyThanks i was wondering. Performance RT on track makes most sense. Im really impressed with the improvements Turn10 has made lately. Its not easy competing with GT7 on car details and paint but they are. I feel Forza hasnt gotten some of the credit it deserves cause of the rocky launch.

​@@markmacken1I agree that poliphony does a great job with their attention to detail and their car models. But even in the state it was in, Forza was competing. It's hard to break through all of the crap that was out there because of the launch, I don't blame people for their disappointment. Loads of cars just reused etc. but if you look at my Forza vista playlist, they had models in there better than GT from the start. And in my view as someone who works in a body shop Forzas paint rendition has been better than gts from the start. The way they have gone about modeling the cars just looks more realistic. They could have done much better at launch with loads of things, and something's obviously happened during development. But I'm not getting all rage hurt because of it like those making videos against Forza. My videos are done because like you said "turn ten don't get enough praise for what they've done right". And I've always stated that Forzas track environments and weather racing just beats GT hands down, but that gets forgotten about. I have two new videos I'm just about to put up about the rain in both games. You've probably heard that "Forza uses fake rain". Well you can let me know what you think.

@@nihilityjoey Will take a look for your rain video but on a seperate note sometimes Forza hurts itself. Example take MotogamesTV channel's latest comparison to GT7 on the yellow Evo. I was excited to see Forza pip GT7 but in his comparison Forza lighting has this over the top hazey and warm lighting. It actually reminds me of a tv setting i have on my tv called "tone". My tv has three different tone settings: cool /normal / warm. In MotogamesTV video GT7 looks like the cool setting (blueish and crisp picture) and forza looks like the warm setting (reddish and hazey). Forza's lighting improved much better when they updated the sky and emerging clouds but as i understand it wasnt for all tracks or clear weather conditions including Nurburgring GP circuit which he used in his video. Take a look, im sure you know his channel as its very popular.

@nihilityjoey Continued... actually forget what i said about that other video. I watched it again today and i have completely changed my mind. Go figure!

It is, their menu music and so on is great..it kind of reminds me of Motorsport 3 when I was doing livery's.

@@nihilityjoey man i loveee motorsport 3 but its 2:18 here so dont expect an immediate response

I thinks it to give players a choice. In normal performance mode the resolution is full 4k at all times, whereas this mode has variable resolution. But I think this mode is the best (60fps anyway).

Agreed. I can understand from a development standpoint reusing models, saves time, and players always want as many cars as possible at launch. Me? I would have preferred a reduction in cars but at this or better quality. But they are doing it now.

It definitely is performance ray tracing mode. And it does look amazing. The new lighting system they put in is much better than the old game, and performance ray tracing mode shows that off. I'll upload a video comparing the normal performance mode to this, and night time racing is a good way to do that.

Thanks yes im interested to know what you think of the drop in resolution from Performance full 4K to Performance RT >4k. Do you see a big difference in resolution between these modes? Wondering why everyone doesnt just use Performance RT because this video looks 4k to me!

The track action is yes.

I'll put up more videos with races in them, add in more cars etc. That should show off a bit more than just this.

@@nihilityjoey Thanks!

How so???

When you view a car like this in the showroom, the game automatically renders them in the highest settings. Things get different for the track. You can choose two 60fps modes. One is performance mode, this gives you full 4k resolution. This mode however doesn't have ray tracing. Then there is the mode I use, which is performance ray tracing. This mode has adaptive Resolution so it's not full 4k at all times. However the benefits to me are better than performance mode. You get better lighting and shadows inside the car and out, things just look better. You might lose a bit of resolution, but you gain more graphically in my view. I would do two comparison videos showing the difference, however Xbox seems to not want to record anything at the moment, that's why my uploads have been a bit lacking, I just can't record anything. Bummer. Hope that helps though

Performance ray tracing mode.

@@nihilityjoey thanks!

​@@markmacken1no probs👍

Car model and paint looks ugly ​@@nihilityjoey

@@olavofernandes7286 Why don't you shhhhhhhhh!!!!! All you are doing is talking rubbish. Explain

It's exactly the same in all tracks. And in photo mode you can't see the rain at all, whereas in Forza you can. Which is odd, because if the rain effects were actual graphical assets, you'd expect them to be seen, yet they aren't. And Forza is the game that gets put across as using fake rain. The videos and proof are there.

@@nihilityjoey I'm not really concerned with how they tackle graphics. I don't really Understand what it's proof of. I was just commenting on why rain might not be on the track vs off the track

Nah. I don't get your point. Forza Motorsport has better environments, and you state that it's good GT has 2d rotating trees? Good resource management? Forza has less pop in also. For a game that came out not even a year before Forza, it's not as detailed as people claim.

@@nihilityjoey forza is a different game. I don't really see why it's being brought up again. This. Is just good resource management. It allows to devs to put focus on what we actually look at. I'm over 1k hours in gt7 and this is the first time I've thought about the trees. When I'm in scapes I'm taking pictures of my car not trees.

​​​@@DeadSceneMediaForza is a sim as welll. And in that department, its better than gt. It has a better physics engine with better tyre modeling. You can't get around that. Gt has the edge visually......in only a few departments, and those aren't all the time, when forza does those right, like the recent brands hatch track, and their recent car drop, gt doesn't compare. It just doesn't. If you prefere gt, all cool. But when forza does everytbing right, it's on another league. My recent nissan videos show this. Whilst lovely, the gt model looks like a model car. At a lot of points throughout the forza walk around, you would swear the car was real, no scapes needed. Look at the difference im the interior, and i don't mean just detail, which are both about equal, its the look, again a more realisic look. But here, with the trees i think its just excuses. Its like pointing out forzas use of 3d to 2d wheels rims., everyone states gt is better because they use, motion blur on the 3d wheels. Is it the same as here? You dont see the wheels when driving and are not concerned with the other cars wheels either? If not then whats the difference?

@@nihilityjoey that's cool man. Go back to dead space content. You were better at it.

​@@DeadSceneMediaMaybe take your own advice and go back to crying in a pillow or something. Don't come across all nice, and then act like a twat at the end. If you like GT better awesome for you, go enjoy it.

GT seven cost 60 million to make.

Listen fella. You've made an arse of yourself again, thats not my fault. There is nothing wrong with the viduals of this video at all, looks very much like what I watch. Small bit of TH-cam compression but that happens on all videos. You know what your problem is? You know nothing about visuals, HDR, SDR etc. I tried to be civil etc way back, tried to tell you and that other dude exactly what you were doing wrong and what was hapoening but you both acted like tools. This is why your clip is washed out. Its very simple. Your hdr is messed up, you've whacked the slider up way to high. This is what i was talking about. You need to adjust you hdr slider on the playstation to match your tvs hdr capabilities. There ie no ingame slider like in forza so you dont need to worry about that as long as you leave the in game settings at default. There is a video on youtube showing you the luminance values of the ps5 slider implamets. I suggest you find it and calibrate your hdr to your sets capabilities, then try it again. So if your tv is only capable of 1000 nits of peak brightness, both white boxes should be that value. And zero for the black. Same for the xbox, i already put up a video about hdr for that as well. I tried to be civil. That didn't work. Its not a matter of opinion, especially when your content is all out of whack. My video looks better than yours, even after you stated my clips look like crap.

@@nihilityjoey Actually, I was civil first, but you always came at me aggressive

And no, my TV is not out of whack. Like I said, the things my TV and other OLED and QLED TV's are capable of, are not going to be captured in a recording. Therfor, it's going to look better than this video or mine. QLED and OLED TV's capture deeper, bettwr blacks, better contrast, higher refresh rates, and several other advantages over LED TV's. My settings are fine. It's the other things my TV is capable of itself that are enhancing my visuals compared to yours and my recent video.

​​​​​​@@joescivicIT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TV!!!!!!!! JESUS!!!! Its the playstation hdr slider. Its not about making the images disappear, thats the quick set up, but its like vivid mode on tvs in showrooms, it looks "good" but it's not, and its not accurate. When you have the slider up to high the brightness washes out the texture detail. It has NOTHING to do with you tv. Come on man!!!!!! Here this should help th-cam.com/video/lnYNJVDhTIU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aBTtfOyG8GgtB0y4 find out what peak brightness your TV is capable of CALIBRATED, Avforums or hdtvtest, and set the luminance value boxes using the scale in the video. And the in game settings should be ev 0.0 and saturation 100, default values. Turning the ev up will also add to the brightness.

@@nihilityjoey Jesus. You're lost and pathetic. You're obviously a young kid incapable of comprehension and being a decent human. Just full of rage like an undisciplined child. Carry on

Okay so what am I doing then? Am I somehow able to change a setting? You are having a hard time here aren't you?? Recorded right from the console. What's there is there. And you are pulling some mental gymnastics here. YOUR VIDEO HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPRAY!. Are you that delusional?

😂😂😂and the dryest part of the track??? 😂😂😂look at the beginning of this video. The WHOLE track is a sponge. Did I change that as well😂😂😂

@nihilityjoey I drive multiple times in the rain, and I can experience the spray/mist behind cars better than that. It is just SOOOOOO convenient, that when we argued about this subject before, then I put a video up showing all that mist, that you never spoke of it again. Then literally a few days after I take down my videos (because I told you before, this isn't what I do for my channel) that ypu decide to bring this up again. And when you do, you make it the worst possible. Fun fact, the mist is pretty much non existent in FM. FM mainly has water splashing behind the tires on the asphalt. Early any mist. But why don't you try to use your brain and actually watch videos on this. GT7 is pretty popular. There's a lot of rain videos showing the spray behind cars doing what FM isn't doing. Looks like smoke? Lol. It looks like that in real life too. 🤦‍♂️ Stop making very specifically done videos to justify yourself towards one game. It's laughable, and pathetic

​@@joescivicYou need to seek help.tiu really do. "I've driven in the rain"!!!!!!!! SO HAVE I AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS......YOU TIT! What the fuck does that have to do with the EVIDENCE of the videos and posts? Honestly, what does your EXPERTISE at driving in the rain have to do with the irrefutable evidence in this video? And I gave you too much credit. Your most recent vr video had no cars to speak of to show the spray. You are full of shit and should seek help.

@nihilityjoey in the game, is what I meant by driving in the rain. Of course people in real life have. I wasn't clear, but I meant in GT7. So I know how it looks in the game. You specifically make your video a certain way to make GT7 look worse than it is, yet you blame others for that too. Stop being a hypocrite. Watch some other TH-cam videos. You look ignorant as fuck. There's so many videos showcasing this. I need to seek help? Lol. I'm not the delusional one who makes biased videos. I'm not the hypocrite blaming others for making one game look better than another then doing the same for myself. GT7 has multiple formations of rain on the asphalt. FM barely has that variation GT7 does. GT7 does have reflections. Mirror like reflections on the wetter parts like puddles, but there are the blurred reflections (which happens in real life) on the not-so-wet parts. You just picked the worst possible scenario and tried to flip it in Forzas favor as usual.

The graphics for the car or the track? If it's the track, I totally agree. Sub par job to be sure.

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😂😂😂 another car you "know very well". I say rubbish. Perhaps post a video next time you are at a car meet. From every single photo I've checked everything matches up. Your worlds about the interior being shiny is bollocks. The car matches up well, and has the faults I've mentioned. You really can't help yourself can you? Anyway, much like you won't record clips from your consoles to prove your point, you are talking rubbish here, and won't provide any proof. This comment makes you look like the salty person you are. You need to cope with whatever issues you have. Anyway, the proof is here, and all you are doing is blowing hot air. Provide proof for what you are saying. Show me pictures etc.

Guess you juat prefer an overdose of chrome on parts that are not chrome then. Or a game that puts factory made cars in it while using aftermarket parts like the carbon fiber console. Lol

​​@@joescivic are you KIDDING???? GT has materials that are "wrong" it's called redereing. The engine struts being a shiny metal isn't an issue, they are there and correct and the engine bay LOOKS like the engine bay. The interior LOOKS like the interior. Anyway let's see what words you have in my next GT video, see if you are as enthusiastic as you are here. And as for the after market console? Did that though you like the honda seats you claimed weren't really honda seats????

​@@nihilityjoeyThere is no photo you looked at that "checks up." Look how shiney and chrome all that interior shit is. It's mostly silver in color. And not a metal silver either. The proof is here? Lol. What proof? This is a video of the car in the game. Not a comparison, and no "proof" being provided. How am I salty for telling you the car isn't as correct as you claim? Love that scratchy radio too 🤦‍♂️ The wheels are not a damn chrome mirror. They're silver. That center triangle piece around the lugnuts, is kind of chrome. Not the whole damn wheel. Everything I mentioned, I am correct about. And yes, we have a lot of cars here. This place has some very successful people. Even my actual friend, a friend who has his own shop while being Airforce reserves, and is a year younger than me, AND he paints at his shop, has a Mclaren 720S. He actually wet sands his work to gwt rid of orange peel effect. Something his Mclaren doesn't have because they go over the car after it's painted. There's a ton of cars here. I'm not in some poor town. So yes, I've sat in a Ford GT. So go show me how all this in your video is accurate.