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Gjldo
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2007
Suntour Epixon service/upgrade pt.1
A quick video on the oem parts and third party manufacturers components that i'm going to use in this process.
you can get the bushings from
resko.if.ua/1211
or
bicyclesuspension.de/products/marzocchi-538115-bushing-upper-32-35x12
(turns out they were installed in many more forks other than a m.y.2003)
You'llbe able to find all the parts wich make your fork on sr suntour website, like this:
www.srsuntour.com/it/assistenza/area-di-download/download-clienti/bike/esplosi/forcella/
you can get the bushings from
resko.if.ua/1211
or
bicyclesuspension.de/products/marzocchi-538115-bushing-upper-32-35x12
(turns out they were installed in many more forks other than a m.y.2003)
You'llbe able to find all the parts wich make your fork on sr suntour website, like this:
www.srsuntour.com/it/assistenza/area-di-download/download-clienti/bike/esplosi/forcella/
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Suntour epixon 2018 from aliexpress, good or junk?
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A video describing what you'll get if you buy a epixon from aliexpress Pros and cons, possible upgrades and my toughts on the experience that I had with this fork so far
Xc 400 reassembly
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Sorry for the long delay everything is done according to the original manual proper oil is: 7,5 w 34,34 cstk @ 40°c, i'm using 7,5w 32 cstk @ 40°c in this kind of forks, viscosity is important, modern day marzocchi/fox oils are way off, must be filled to 40mm from the top, you can adjust the oil level by 5mm from 45 to 35, but the manual says you can go as high as 30mm from the top, this will c...
Disassembly Marzocchi XC400 fork
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how to take apart a xc400 fork with no special tools soon a video on how to put it back togheter (with appropiate oil and grease)
thanks for the video! (....love the slippers... 👍 )
I need ur help 🙏
well, if i can help you, whats the matter?
Hi is it quick release
Yes
Thanks for your excellent video and explanations. I will try and service my XC R now :)
Hello, greats videos. do you have intention of public the video of part 2 of improve the fork?. thanks!
yes i just have to find time to edit it
@@Gjldo thanks for answer!
Well done! You can find Seal-Kits and Spares here : dr-marzocchi.projectweb.de/ Greetings from Dr_Marzocchi
This fork is very good? You recommend?
indeed i do, for this amount of money it's a bargain
@@Gjldo sorry friend, i don’t understand english very well, this fork is good or junk?
@@p.a.s1798 it's good
have you upgraded yours yet.i am looking forward to it.do you still rate this fork?
yes i have, but since i shot a pretty crappy video and i've had some things to do i've delayed its editing yes, it's a nice entry level, it could be better in some areas, but those are the areas that can be improved
@@Gjldo just ordered one of these.did yours have foam rings in it?keep up the good work .dont give in too easy.
@@mrphil2233 yes it did
Thanks for taking the time to make such a comprehensive video. I'm awaiting delivery of an Epixon and I'm quite disappointed that it uses the cheaper parts, but at least it explains why it was so cheap. I'll see how I get on with the basic damper although I can't see the FUN071 on the Suntour website now? I might upgrade later to the damper with low speed compression which sounds interesting.
Can you install the carbon axon legs on the epixon 2019 Thanks
i have no idea
Did oil come out when u took it apart?
no they're not a oil bath fork
Hi, i'm planning to get this fork off AliExpress. For the most part this fork is mostly epixon parts except for the lockout cartridge,am i correct?
cartridge too is epixon
Wow, thats great value!! Im going to test my luck with a seller for the Epixon 2020 fork. Thanks for tue great video.
Thanks, i wondered why epixon from AliExpress are so cheap. Half price than in my local shops.
well, no import tax yet and you're cutting off all the ravenue that after custom supply chain has to have in order to make a living, the fork is solid, been using it for 2 years
It would have been nice if you showed where you added the 80w oil. As well as the oil type.
it's actually written on the fork manual and suntour has a dedicated video on its channel
What is the weight of that fork
no idea, i've never waighted it
Can I convert my manual lockout to remote lockout 2018 stealth epixon?
yes, but that involves changing both the cartridge and the top cap, from an economical pov it's a reasonable thing to do if you rebuild it
I wasn't planning on using the lockout so would you still recommend that I buy the epicon service-able cartridge
well that dipends, i find that the main advantage of the serviceable cartridges is a better rebound system (wich feels like is actually adjustable) unfortunatly i'm not familiar on how the shoulder control LO behaves, so i can't really advice you LOwise i'm actually putting togheter a new video on how to upgrade the internals, fork seals and a few other things
@@Gjldo thanks! Looking forward to it
Question. I just bought a used bike with the 29" version of this but in the black with blue branding/graphics. The owner did have all the receipts for the upgrades done to the bike including this fork/shock which was purchased from a US seller on eBay. It does not say the year anywhere on the receipt or fork. Do you think I need or should do what you did with yours? Or should I be ok since it wasn't an aliexpress purchase?
you bought a used bike, inspecting it should be the first thing that you have to do
So is it a real or fake Suntour ?
REAL
can you give me the link for this fork because i want to make sure i dont get ripped off
I'm sorry but i can't, i delete order history once things arrive and i've no problems with them for a while
Yea no thanks.
Es genial!
Hi. Thanks for the review. You added oil only to the lowers, or you have added some oil to the air cartridge too?
no , only o the air chamber, there's no point adding oil to the lowers in to this design
@@Gjldo thanks for the reply, what about greasing dust cover or soaking the foam rings ? No need for that too?
@@mstvir no that is a thing that must be done, after all it falls in good maintenance practice
@@Gjldo Thank you very much, I will get on it. Thanks for guiding, really appreciate it.
@@Gjldo just finished servicing it, thank you, verry much 👊
All right this was already known for about five years and the cartridge damper IS THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION. Not only is it the international version but its LIGHTER. These forks have been sold by the thousands and they are super good even on trail. The bottom line is YOU CAN RACE ON THESE FORKS IN XC AND USE OIL AS VOLUME SPACERS. If your looking for a ALL MOUNTAIN FORK then the UDING fork has a damper with twice the volume of oil and weighs more as well. ALIEXPRESS ROCKS HARD and yes they are giving you a whole lot for the money.
I have 0 complaints about them. I've ridden them on random hikings trails (so no smooth/prepared mtb tracks), where according to the good people of the internet, they should have collapsef in to a singularity The more i use them, the more i love them
@@Gjldo You can race with these forks here in Switzerland and they perform exceptionally well. Even unsponsored riders ask me where I get all this stuff from. Aliexpress also sells 1,490 gram dual air chamber shocks that are on my main carbon bike that perform like SIDS but 100 grams more. This is serious racing here in the mountains and these forks have never failed once. Aliexpress is selling good stuff if you know what your looking at, and you can race XC on the Epixons with no problems. Both race bikes are full Aliexpress bikes that are better than most FACTORY rides under the elite class here. All of this for dirt cheap. The T1100 CARBON FRAMES ARE REAL, AND ARE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER BRAND.
Good review. I am planning on getting this fork for my bike. I subscribed.
Thanks, this was a great help
So, essentially this fork is a mix of parts and has to be serviced when it arrives?
All suntour forks are a mix of parts, some models may share the internal but with different externals (like different crown assembly made out of alloy instead of steel, or lowers of magnesium rather then alu) some may be the other way around Does it require service?... mm good question, based on my SINGULAR experience i would advice to check it, wich is super easy, it takes 5 minutes to take it apart, but i don't think that it was mandatory Fork was greased, just not enough for my liking
@@Gjldo What specific parts require greasing?
@@william_2610 in my case the boots plastic bushings, negative spring had a light but sufficent grease coating Also the sponge dust wipers below the seals were a bit on the dry side for me so i cleaned and soaked them in oil
@@Gjldo thanks!
This is easily the best Epixon video I've found! The 2018 was a replacement for a cheap springer and I LOVE how this thing performs for all it's lightness. Now that you've shown me how upgradable the fork is, I've got a new respect for it. Thanks!
that aliexpress suspension is original and good too? I'm asking this question because I do not understand audio in English!
it appears to be original, and it's very good, tough in the future i will upgrade to the better HLO
@@Gjldo What is HLO bro
@@zulk9mahmood821 Hydraulic Lock Out, very basic suntour such as XCT can have a mechanical lockout instead
I have a Suntour XCR fork from 2010, would you say that an Aliexpress Epixon overall it would be a good replace/upgrade?
yes, i would say that, regardless of the year model, a epixon is targetes towards the beginning of mid range forks, while Xcr is almost at the top level of the entry level forks, therefore it will always be better compared to your 2010 xcr this one will be stiffer due to 32vs30 mm stanchions, lighter by about 20-25%, also it will have the benefit of a more finely adjustable air spring
Gjldo Can you post the actual AliExpress product url?
unfortunatly i can't, the posts look all almost the same, and i've deleted email and history but i've it's any help to you, i didn't look for a particular seller, i just choose the one with cheapest fork+shipping
@@goran.subotic www.aliexpress.com/item/32832005979.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.338a3c00UEeg4e&mp=1
From 2016 suntour epixon began to come with simpler internal parts like this 071 hydraulic cartridge. It does not mean that the products sold on aliexpress are false or a OEM model. Check out the exploded view on the OFFICIAL suntour website www.srsuntour-cycling.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Consumer/Bike/Exploded%20views/2016/SF16-EPIXON/SF16-EPIXON-DS-RL-R-27.5-120,100-(1).PDF 071 hydraulic cartridge is a original part of this suspension!
that is indeed true for the 2016 model, but there is no info available for the 2018, and looking on line i only found out, that aliexpress was selling junk, so i took the risk, and made a video explaining what i got, i ride this thing weekly down trails that are not truly supposed to be used by a hard tail xc and it has not exploded yet, which is what is generally suggested on line by people who buys only from local bike shops
There is no information for the 2018 model because the 2018 model sold is the same as in 2016, only with color changes. Suntour only makes new exploded views when it launches new and different models over the old ones. Only EPICON 2015/2014/2013 came with the cartridge you suggested for an upgrade. But the official cartridge for EPIXON 2016/2017/2018 is the 071
This guy bought the EPIXON in the official Suntour USA site and it came with the 071 simple cartridge th-cam.com/video/T1WAiS6lwpQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/v81XJh8sn4s/w-d-xo.html
yeah but i also watch a video from a suntour showroom in wich the showroom epixon had the 073 LO, so i was a bit confused any way taking a look at the manual providedwith it says that there is a epixon tr and epixon 9 wich are rated for different uses, tr beign indicated as suitable also for all mountain
Ricardo Cintra so is it a real or false fork on aliexpress ?