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Rodney, I'm delighted to see your chime in, very much appreciated, hey we roll with the punches and stay grounded to our handicap, and yes, sometimes we make a game-time adjustment, however in this dance, for numerous reasons and compensating factors, I could not get passed Siera Leone, Trust me, when they turned for home and Donoch already disposed of Seize The Gray and Irad was looming on the outside, I knew in my blood and bones based on their strides, they were home, SL closed well especially after the 16th pole, however obviously too late. No worries, we have plenty of good eaten fish on the horizon , stick to your handicap and absorb as much as you can along the way....see ya on the next show here at past the Wire TV

Chuck, thanks for chiming in, comments always embraced and appreciated, I didn't make an excuse for SL, just sharing those obstacles, yes, halfway thru age 3 and now 6 races, the lugging in needs to stop, his dad Gun Runner was a real pro, however you simply cannot dismiss his talent, I must disagree with you in saying he's G3 caliber only, he will win some big races this year, save this

That's your choice, you know your numbers, the best of luck to you and thanks for chiming in, I know I listen carefully to people that know the sport and understand all the contributing factors, it matters to me, I absorb, lots, however I will not come off my own opinion, even still I respect competent information I'm listening to, there are many variables and contributing factors, and how you actually bet, conservative or you thrive on exotics and gimmicks, same race or muti-race, window decisions overall

Tim, thanks for offering your input and comments, the 6-deep approach in a field of 10+ is NOT for the win, it's for deeper gimmicks like the triple and superfecta, especially if the horses genuinely make your overall handicap and they are clearly an overlay in your mind, coming into the race SL clearly based on performance and progression was the best 3 year old, him lugging in a known issue, even still his talent alone and the way he's bred to win at the distance was enough to be decisive, trust me, I saw Dornoch's potential and I have the highest regard for Saez, but I had to look at the whole picture

Ralph, He ran huge, he really loves Saratoga, he was my 2nd choice in the True North, knew he was a big threat, I used him in my DD's, and Pick 3's, what an overlay he was, I wish i wasn't stuck on Gun Pilot, the Kid Torres didn't give him the best of rides, his G1 win at CD got me stuck on him, Fabulous job by Bill Mott getting Baby Yoda prepared for the step up in class.... easy win

Anthony, Thanks for chiming in with your comment, I have watched the race several times, and to your point, perhaps there was some bad blood by Tyler and his intentions against Siera Leone, but I didn't want to start in that direction, I watched it again a few times last night, and I failed to mention on my show that The Wine Steward had some horse, but Manny Franco was indecisive a few times, and tried a few lanes where there was no room, after a few attempts, he couldn't ask any longer and he was taken back, I did share that NO DOUBT in my mind , as I mentioned on this show Siera Leone's beginning momentum was halted some by that bumped of tyler and protective, as for the start, it sucks, we always want a clean break and he stumbled too, regardless to all that had happened, Dornoch and Mindframe ran better than everyone else, and they finished 1-2, if Mindframe doesn't drift as much as he did, he wins, and if the race is 12 furlongs, a Mile and 1/2, SL wins & wins easy, PS: if Ken McPeek runs Thorpedo Anna in the Belmont instead of the Akorn with the gals, they way she ran, she wins

Thanks so much for Chiming in and your kind words are very much appreciated...We are on this journey together, we love the sport of kings and our ultimate goal is fun and profit, much more of both to come, stay tuned....thanks for watching.

Thanks for chiming in and for watching, keep watching, you sound somewhat frustrated, I guess you didn't follow my undercard grid, crushed numerous stakes races, It's all about percentages, as for the Belmont Stakes, I suggest you go back and view the last 5 years as a measure, we've crushed it 3 of the last 5 years, Yeah, we all seek to be precise, but there are many contributing factors, what IS important is being as informed as possible for each race, you need not have the top winner to make a profit, as I did in this years race, I'm guessing you are not a handicapper, it takes a lot of work, anyone can guess, play numbers or the colors of silks and get lucky, as for G1 events, give me 100 races, and I will give you a stone cold winner around 60% of the time, not 100%, and you know what dude, 60% is mad crazy high, as for all other non graded stakes races, I still seek 40% which is crazy high too, perhaps you should keep your on WIN percentages records, and keep punchin

@@geo7settePastTheWire All of you "so called" handicappers always crush races when you'e not filming. Ain't that funny how that works? When the camera's rolling, can't hit sh*t. My six year old grandson picks horses by their colors. Know what? He didn't hit the 3 major races neither. So, I guess you and my 6 year old grandson are about even. Only difference is, he doesn't charge. And he doesn't act like he's the world's greatest handicapper. Give it up bro. You suck!

if you're playing Superfectas, 4th IS hitting the board, Yeah, there's no payout as in WIN, PLACE & SHOW, that's the board on those plays, Obviously the board mentioned here is strictly towards superfecta considerations, thanks for watching and chiming in

Tom, thanks for chiming in, I appreciate tour comment, Trust me, I'm always more comfortable knowing my horse is on the pace or sitting in the cat-bird seat as a stalker/presser, as you know, there are numerous contributing factors, Please don't dismiss who Sirera Leone had already defeated, and like I shared, inches away from being 5 for 5 , Regally Bred to be a champ, and so on, his numbers were top shelf too and he appeared to be sitting on his VERY best race, he was fresh too, oh and trust me, my stomach was turnign when Donoch disposed of Seize The Gray, who by the way I dismissed entirely, and I loved he was 5-1, felt so many people took the hook with that guy, but I saw Luis take him into the stretch, I knew he was lasting, as a handicapper, we need to be decisive and yeah, make some adjustments along the way, I don't have the time at this moment, but I can list a ton of colts and fillies over the years that won from way back 10 times in their career, and yeah at the same time, they lost some because of the inevitably traffic/trip issues, part of the game, the was SL and Honor Marie were training and know that the pace would be honest, you knew they would make their runs, finished 3rd and 4th , short of 1st and 2nd, if it was a mile and a half, then first and 2nd, but it was what it was, I knew in my bones Dornoch had a big race coming, I was hoping he hit the board here, he ended up taking all the money, and aside from Saez and his greatness, I could never be decisive, with taking him in a race to beat SL I felt SL was the ONLY horse in the race that could win this Belmont by open lengths

Sierra Leone, "Lugged in again last 50 yards. New Bit didn't help 😮 Horse is a Bad Bet ;

Thanks for chiming in, You will never meet anyone bettor or handicapper that typically bets more ICE COLD superfectas, I won't sneeze at putting $10 or $20 straight up, based on my handicap, but I'm no dummy, as I shared in this video, If i complete my handicap in a big field, and I go 6 or even 7 deep with what i feel are contenders for different reasons, then it's about being smart, if half of your handicap, 3 of your 6 considered, are on the board at 10-1+ 15-1+ or even greater, after you ahve placed your straight wagers, I box makes sense as you can lose a photo, or another horse can fail to fire or 100 others things, in the case of this Belmont, it fit perfectly, and for every dime or $36 wager, you collect $320, 50 cent = $1600, on a $180 bet, a great way to recover losses if your top horse doesn't get it done and you lose all your multiples too, I'm not talkign about "Throw ins" I'm talking about horses that made my handicap and are clearly being dismissed by the public, I play more Super Key's than anyone you know, but at the same time, I have cashed countless Superfect box wages, which at times adds to my winning on top of hitting my Super Key in the same race, but if shit goes wrong, bang, you get your money back, 3 months ago, I hit a $17,000 super, collected $1,700 on a small 36.00 wager, no reach, I boxed 6 , felt anyone of they could win, or that 3 of my horses were BIG overlays in my eyes, so if they hit the board , I get paid, you say go to the poorhouse? playing 6 to get 4 on the board isn't too much of a reach if you are confident in your ways, then of course you need racing luck, dont we all know it, so much shit can go wrong and will go wrong

Hey I like your handle! I used to be Vandoff on TVG community years ago. It was a good way to separate who knew the track. Hey, good gig he got, huh? BTW I agree w/U

Thanks for chiming in, some good points there, even still MindFrame and just two races, MSW and OC , never challenged, is hardly a resume to be worthy of the Belmont Stakes, however his races were brilliant and he had Irad, and if he doesn't drift to the center he wins and pulls it off, Luis Saez realized it and he kept to the task at hand and rode Dornoch to the wire. PS: If Mcpeek Runs Thorpedo Anna vs the Boys, not Mystik Dan, based on her run in the Acorn, she would have beat this field, lastly, as I mentioned and you know, SL did not have a good overall trip and was running fastest late, after the 1/16th pole

@@geo7settePastTheWireThe SL Jockey Switch Makes You Wonder "What if" (Especially Considering Gaffs Experience on SL)

Hi and thanks for chiming in, I guess you didn't understand what I was sharing, regardless to the class of the race, if the field is 10, 11, 12 or more horses, you need to extend your handicap, create opportunities for your deeper gimmicks, MOST IMPORTANTLY, if you feel based on your full handicap of the race, you feel they can hit the board as a contender, especially so if you feel based on your handicap a particular horse will be an overlay, the Odds on the board dictate how you bet your deeper gimmicks, like a superfecta, You don't know me, nobody you will ever met has played more ICE COLD exactas for a big number, even ice cold triples and superfectas, I start with that, because If I execute a perfect top 4 handicap, I'm getting paid, then I look at others who MADE my handicap, my 5th, 6th or 7th consideration, that's if they were, if my 6th choice in a 11 horse field is 44-1 on the board, why wouldn't I use him in my triples and superfectas? Capeech? there are many moving parts, many contributing factors, depends on the race, and 100 other conditions, if you're a seasoned guy, you know what I mean, if you're not, trust me you will learn with time

Thanks for chiming in and we greatly appreciate the support, many big races on the horizon

In your show, you said you'd cover Dornoch later, but YOU NEVER DID! Now I know, your partner disliked his movement, but your guy at the track said he had GROWN a huge amount since the Derby. NOBODY took that into how that may have affected his movement or ability to cover ground.

Always like him. Scored $12 show mutuel Pegasus World Race. WAS A gimme. I ain't too proud to get 5-1 to Show

Matthew, Thanks for chiming in, I'm 61 years old, and on my mother's grave, never, ever thought of or used any juice, as for we as handicappers, I would suggest you do a deep dive into 8+ years of columns and videos from me and others here at Past the Wire, you will not find more seasoned handicappers, who keep it raw and real from our 4+ decades in the trenches of this business and sport

@geo7settePastTheWire That's an excellent response to a pretty scathing post. I've watched a decent amount of content on your channel. But now, as a result of how you handled yourself in responding, I'm gonna watch in the future with a fresh pair of eyes.

I heard the interview too, and Ramdomized beat me once before the same way, he ran a big race, however I had completed so much work in film/race review and Raging Sea was training fabulously, and Idiomatic is a Mare that will be in the Hall Of Fame one day, shes as tough as nails, credit Rosario, big time ride and you were very fortunate to hang on, to me, even with Chad Brown's interview, it was hand to be decisive with Randomized, an Overlay based on his talent? you bet , I can understand someone using him in the P4, P5 or P3, but a big win bet in that field? Congrats if you pulled it off, and the fact that you doubled up, she is a filly who had to beat one classy older mare, on paper if that was gonna happen, Raging Sea looked the part

@geo7settePastTheWire not being a wise guy. Rosario said he loved her as a 3yr old b4 the b.c Last yr when he rode her. He had to ride asmusson horse on her retiring swan song. Clariera. And she was 2nd in b.c. Clariera 4th. Now a 4yr old beat idiomatic on that speed track. No problem that why I doubled up. Thks 4all

@geo7settePastTheWire see if u guys like crupi next time where ever he goes. Bet with both fists. Due to the track sat.

That's fabulous! Congrats & thanks for chiming in, Trust me, I wish I could get past Siera Leone, I just couldn't, so he was my key with many wagers, as I shared in this video, he closed well the final 1/16th, but had those issues earlier on and credit Luis to keep to the task at hand while the #10 drifted out, Irad brought him back in, if he doesn't drift, he likely wins, additionally, If McPeek runs Thoropedo Anna in the Belmont and not the Acorn, she could have beat the boys... I felt it in my bones that Saez would win with this horse soon, this year, just was sold with him strictly underneath, but after he kept with Seize The Gray, I knew he was passing him and STG would fall back, and that he would fight to the finish, Hats off to you for being decisive on Donoch, on the win end, I just couldn't we all face it as handicappers often, others were training better & had the look of moving forward , You hot that Triple Mutiple times, that's sweet, Capital for the full summer season,

Wow ! Nice lick . Love seeing horse players come up. I had absolutely no faith in "Mind frame" I felt it a far to aggressive move on Fletcher's part. I had Sierra Leone, Resilience and Honor Maria (Tri Box 10 x) Again , nice lick my friend....

@@geo7settePastTheWire Yes, thank you. The only race I screwed up on this year was the Preakness. I'm the guy that cashed that big bet on Mystik Dan in the Derby because I thought the track would be sloppy, and even though it came up dry, he had the biggest kick of any of the other contenders in the Southwest Stakes. I didn't like Sierra Leone to win the Belmont because of too much tinkering... and the rider change were negatives for me. I boxed the first three horses in the trifecta so I got lucky and the best odds came in. Can't wait for the next big race!

@@abrahamjackson6019 thanks very much. That was my biggest score of my life. My second biggest score was Mystik Dan in the Derby. Good luck to you now 👍

Did you bet with Bitcoins? U funny...fixed idds...it's some priceless ....I'm trying to think of the word....#2 that's it!

Yes, there will be a few coming up, thanks for chiming in

Ouch, sorry, rough weekend. We'll make up for it

That's the best thing said. What 3yr old u or we got hooked on are not great. 100 buyer in all 3 races

Beyer....Andy Beyer came up with the speed figure