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Very helpful analysis. I know someone who worked on the set with David Lean and have heard some anecdotes. I watched this again this year after seeing it back in 1984. I'm an American deeply familiar with India. I know the area where the caves were filmed is visible on the train between Mysore and Bangalore. You have revealed layers I hadn't appreciated before. It's difficult to condense a book into a movie. Now I need to read the novel. When I first saw the movie, One thing that utterly confused me was the reveal of Stella's marriage. Her existence was barely mentioned in the movie. I have a feeling that narrative time constraints left out any kind of reference to a nascent relationship between Fielding and Stella.
Fascinating analysis of an extraordinary film.
I think this analysis is reaching. But I do sort of agree with one thing, its all a muddle, alot of incoherent ideas and experiences.
I wanted to ask, are you the developer of Tricky Genie on alexa/google home? If so, I was wondering, why was the game removed a few years ago?
No, we are not.
Love this analysis! I wish the film had included that Adela was drugged out of her mind by doctors after she was "rescued" from the caves. That as I recall, she never accuses Dr. Aziz herself in the book, but the racist people around her assume that and she goes along with it. The trial is the first time SHE actually thinks on her own about what happened, which means she never changed her mind, but it was her first time (without influence from others) facing the truth.
Right, we agree that the courtroom is where Adela thinks on her own for the first time after the cruel incident. "Drugged out of her mind" - not sure though.
@@watershipdown3630 Been a few decades since I read the book, but I recall she's drugged out the first few days (because they have to remove the cactus needles) and that it also says no one ever asks her what happened or to go over the whole incident, they just assume, because of racism. I think the book says her testimony is the first time she really thinks it through. Aziz is more upset at Fielding than Quested, because he thought they were friends. A betrayal by a friend does make many people bitter.
Tbh the film just felt senseless and confusing to me, although the portrayal of British India was commendable and quite accurate, if you see videos of the 1920s. What is the 'mystery of India'? What happened in the caves that made Adela so disturbed that she falsely accused Aziz? And how did the bruises came on her? It's technically a wonderful film, but the plot could've been explained better.
I saw this movie when it first came out. I was taken back with the beauty of the film. Here was a 3 hour that I found riveting, not by the plot, but by the visuals. I knew then that the film was a meditation of death, The death of the British Empire the death of traditional India, the death of innocence, the death of antiquated ways of live (DR. Aziz is very progressive encouraging Indians to use modern healthcare measures). And in the film everyone is reborn. The film is full of visual metaphors. While I know there was controversy of Alec Guiness being cast as Hindi; but because he's in essence the force of reincarnation, it seemed to me that he probably was an English philosopher/professor in his past life, in other words also a metaphor.
Serisously appreciate ur analysis of the movie was remarkable... but as a movie i am still dissappointed with it. a viewer should not have to listen to somebody's analysis to understand the movie, it should do it on its own. I enjoyed ur analysis more than the movie itself.
We agree with you there. But some material are too dense, too intricate that it requires audience participation to unravel them together. We are very eager to know what excited Lean and his team to make this film. To each his own. :)
I took an English novel course at Seoul National University graduate school in 1973. I read this great novel, "A Passage to India," and got an A grade point. ㅎㅎ My professor was Dear Baengnakchung.
Beautiful Analysis, you have cracked the story.
Great video
thank you so much xx
It's perfectly all right to find the ending unsatisfactory. Seems totally phony to be honest -- we thought the English finally got their comeuppance but then it goes all nicey-nicey! Thank you for taking up this fantastic film and sharing your many insights into it.
Good job!! Please continue making such video essays
Thank you, Vinay! We will continue to make more :)
சிறப்பான பதிவு. தமிழில் இருந்தால் இன்னும் சிறப்பாக இருக்கும்.⚘️⚘️👍
மிக்க நன்றி, அடுத்த முறை தமிழிலும் தயாரிப்போம்
Read about the author's childhood & read the book.
A plus. Good analysis.
Thank you very much :)
Thank you so much. Really interesting. I just finished reading Forster’s novel - great &deep philosophy on every page, so much love for India and its indigenous population. It inspired me to re-watch Lean’s film and also a b/w tv version ( available on you tube) with dame sybil thorndike as a v spiritual, wonderful mrs moore. Its certainly worth watching ( though clearly the bbc couldnt afford the elephant). A Passage to India is the novel that goes on giving.
Absolutely, interesting work of art that is personal to every reader/cineast. Thank you very much for watching our take on it and sharing your thoughts.
I like this reincarnation analysis, especially since it jibes with the "return" of Mrs. Moore at the end when Fielding reveals he's married her daughter.
Hello can I get his contact number?
What did she see inside that cave that make her cried?
The author cautioned about it to not to reproduce it as it might misrepresent the actual sense for both Indian and English audiences. But David Lean did it.
That was very interesting. And your production quality is very good 👍
Thank you, Brent! Happy to hear :)
Great analysis
Awesome 👌👌👌
Amazing 👏
Thank you, Kanimozhi :)
I too was intrigued by the explanation of the birth-death-rebirth cycle. The timeline is really useful for this.
Thank you, Gregory :) Happy the theory resonated with you.
Thank you, very informative
Want watch this movie..
When I first watched this film, I had an impression that Mrs. Moore was returning to India. Also, that Adela was like a younger version of Mrs. Moore, and Aziz a younger version of Professor Godbole. I can see Ms. Quested returning to India at an old age to see Dr Aziz.
Great analysis! Greetings from Peru
Thank you, Gerardo, very happy you found this analysis useful. Great to e-meet you too!
Well done!
Thank you, Laurence :) Very glad you enjoyed!
All very fascinating -- thank you so much! Do you think Lean really thought and planned all that? Did Forster? I haven't read the book but love the movie. And please tell us what you think of the film's ending. I just hate it. Isn't it ironic that Turton proposes a 'bridge party' right in the middle of a failed one ("The hate it as much as we do"). I'm especially intrigued that your listenable Indian-sounding voices assess the film so impartially. Do you feel the raj had an overall positive or negative impact on India? I, though a conservative white American, have come to hate the British for their historical record and present state of extreme tyrannical Covidiocy -- ad inf. Love the great culture they've given the world, their common law and the IDEA of the royal family etc, but they've got half a millennium of serious blood on their hands.
Hi, thanks for watching! Not sure if Lean or Forster intentionally planned the movie this way, but the elements all come together so beautifully to align with the theme of the film that it is hard to dismiss them as serendipity, especially when coming from a meticulous filmmaker like Lean. With respect to the Raj, we do realize the harm they have caused and the cross-generational repercussions. No doubt their rule was more detrimental than beneficial, and we agree with our fellow people who have been demanding an apology from Britain. In this review, however, we wanted to focus more on the Indian Philosophy at work here and how the outsiders perceive it (or fail to). Very nice connecting with you :)
@@tellable You too! It would be so much better if every country just minded its own business, huh -- all empires are despicable. America (is a cancerous growth on the world -- just runs around destroying human happiness wherever it can find it, usually in cahoots with Britain. I've researched escaping the US for somewhere else, but that's no less complicated.
@@scronx Haha! You are more than welcome to India. And of course, no one must feel empowered to colonize others' land.
@@tellable Thanks.
Thanks for explaining the movie … just I saw it on tv n not able to understand the story … now it’s clear n feeling happy to know it’s full meaning ♥️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Manorama, we are very happy that we could help you! Thanks for watching and sharing your experience. Stay connected :)
What did make Adela flip and suddenly accuse Dr. Aziz of rape. What did she see in those caves? In my very simplistic opinion she was confronted by explicit sexual imagery as one finds in ancient Indian and Greek art, I mean what else could it have been?? This had an affect on her repressed victorian sexuality. We are well-accustomed to the ideas of the prudish, sexually-repressed Victorians, who cautiously guarded themselves against any temptation, no matter how slight. There was something in Adela's psyche that made her freak out, sexual repression or was she abused as a child? We will never know.
You are absolutely right, that must be the reason.
We didn't see her accused Dr Aziz of anything. It seemed more like the English people there convinced her to believe that that was what happened. Sort of like a mass delusion.
Excellent!
Glad you liked it, Swathi :)
Good analysis. But I don't think there's anything special about Lean's use of circular narrative from end to beginning. Lean used it on "Lawrence of Arabia" and "Doctor Zhivago" too. In LOA, Lawrence's death by motorcycle in England is premonition-ed at the end of the film. There Lawrence hints at an interest in motorbikes when a passing motorcyclist passes him, just as he's making his exit out of Arabia. Then too in "Zhivago" we see the good doctor as a young boy at the burial of his mother. It foreshadows Zhivago's own death at the end of the film. Lean employed philosophical messaging in his other films too. Certainly in LOA. But also in "The Bridge on the River Kwai". In fact Kwai has similar philosophical themes as in "A Passage to India". Themes like one's purpose in the life, and the realization of one's smallness in a grand, seemingly purposeless universe.
Oh, that's very interesting. Did not realize these - going to check these films out again through this perspective :)
So if we are part of a pattern we cannot perceive, does it matter what we do? Is the pattern random? Is our fate already determined? Are these questions claimed to be answered in this particular belief system?
Yes, we believe our every action matters, because the world is interconnected - like a web - and irrespective of whether we can perceive or not, what we do is going to impact somebody. With respect to fate, it's definitely not predetermined. Again, our choices and actions in life are constantly changing our fate.
Just finished watching it for a second time after a separation of 36 years. This helped with the muddle/mystery problems that I had with it both times. I enjoyed it more the second time.
Hi Shirlee, nice to meet you! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. This is definitely a profound film.
The book has recently been read aloud and uploaded to TH-cam, by Fireside Reading. It was my introduction to EM Forster. Coincidentally, I was reading Still Life/ Sarah Winman ( audiobook), which in his style, and even mentions him.
Well it was a year of waiting but still worth it
Thank you, Guillermo, for the continued support 🙂
good one.
Thank you, Vivek :) It is nice to meet you!
Where’s the other part :(
Hi Guillermo, it is very nice to see that cinephiles like you are expecting our next video in this series! Thank you very much. We realize this is long overdue, sadly COVID and a few other factors delayed it for so long. We are working on it next and you can expect to watch it in the next month :)
Hi Guillermo, here is the second and final part of our analysis of this film: th-cam.com/video/nZ9T614MdCA/w-d-xo.html We delve into themes and symbols in this. We hope you would find this interesting as well.
Thank you very much!!
I think Sir Alec Guinness playing the part of Professor Godbole is a blunder... His accent is in no way Indian... Its absolutely British
We must agree with you, though he has tried his best. We are curious to know why David Lean wanted an Englishman to play the part of an "Indian, Hindu representative"... is it because Lean believed that Hinduism is all about diversity?
@@tellable may be.. But I think Girish Karnad would have been a better option
@@ushashi6158 that sounds appropriate! - he would have done a brilliant role.
I’ve warmed to his Idiosyncratic portrayal of an idiosyncratic character. Lean had had a fallout with Alec Guinness many years before so Guinness did not appear in Ryan’s Daughter. This was an attempt to patch things up. Guinness was deeply undecided what to do with the part and wanted to leave the set during the shoot. He thought he had failed though was annoyed when most of his performance was cut by Lean from the film. All these years later, having Godbole as an enigmatic cameo worked within the structure of the film. Do remember that the Soviet’s were outraged when a Syrian/Egyptian actor from Cairo played a Russian in Doctor Zhivago. It is impossible now to think of that film without the wonderful Omar Sharif.
"having Godbole as an enigmatic cameo worked within the structure of the film" - you are absolute right, WG. Intentionally or not, Lean's decision has worked pretty well in the favour of the film's tone
This intriguing analysis, and the cyclical theme of birth, life, death and rebirth introduced by the film, has encouraged me to give A Passage to India another watch with this observation in mind. Excellent video!
Very happy to hear that! Reinforces the intent of the analysis - to encourage people to climb down this film and notice Lean's understanding and reflection of a foreign culture. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts, Oscar! Happy to meet you :)
@@tellable Very nice to meet you, thank you for such a warm welcome!! :) I’m looking forward to seeing the next few videos on David Lean’s visual storytelling.
Hi, here is the second and final part of our analysis of this film: th-cam.com/video/nZ9T614MdCA/w-d-xo.html We delve into themes and symbols in this. We hope you would find this interesting as well.
Brilliant!!!
Thank you very much for taking the time to share your thoughts :)
Bro you produce amazing videos, keep going bro. Glad to be a new subscriber.
Thank you very much, genuine appreciation like yours keeps us going :) And came across your art works, incredible, man!!
Great analysis! I thought about the birth in the caves in the book, but the movie's direction really pulls all the corners straight to make it clearer. :)
Absolutely! The different phases of the cycle of life are not explored in the book, but in the movie, yes. That makes the movie more immediately structured and meaningful. (You have a great BookTube :) )
@@tellable Thank you! :D
Hi, here is the second and final part of our analysis of this film: th-cam.com/video/nZ9T614MdCA/w-d-xo.html We delve into themes and symbols in this. We hope you would find this interesting as well.
Could it be possible that her(Mrs moore) husband died on 1892?
That's our hunch too, Asad. It cannot be herself because the film happens in 1917, so should be one of her two ex-husbands.
@@tellable Walt Whitman died in 1892, who wrote the original poem 'a passage to india' that inspired Forster to write his book.
@@sinkhole_of_happiness Woah! That suddenly makes sense, thanks for sharing! Now I am curious to know if Forster designed this date into this book (I have not read it yet).
An interesting analysis, especially the cyclical nature of events. I hadn’t noticed the significance of the date 1892 - l wonder what that was about.
Hey JA! Thanks for your feedback, and yes, we didn't notice the cyclical pattern until after watching several times :) The date - we wonder too! Hopefully we will crack in our next episode...
@@tellable Mrs. Moore had two husbands. She remarried after her first husband died. Ronnie is the son of her first husband. In the book, which is being read live everyday, then uploaded to TH-cam, by Fireside Reading, she mentions a ghost. Aziz has also lost his wife to death After Mrs. Moore mentions a ghost, Adela questions her about it when they are playing cards. She feigns ignorance. The card game Mrs. Moore is playing is a form of Solitaire, but it is called “ Demons” in the book. The placing of cards may be significant? This movie is exceptionally difficult for the Western mind to comprehend, as is the book. Also, I don’t know if the movie tried to pay homage to the earlier play, or the original book. 🙂Perhaps it doesn’t matter?🙂 The Indian Councils Act came to be in 1892.
We cant figure 1892 cause we are trying to analyze through the lens of western concept of "linear time" ...if instead of linear concept of time is event .......then dates recur two separate event cant be exacted by a singular date ...linear time muddles hence not a part of Indian mystery .
Well thought out analysis. EMFoerster was a troubled person with mysteries of his own. But this structure is certainly a good fit. I wonder if Lean ever talked about it.
Good
Thanks for watching, Arya!