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Its Doctor Justin Sung!!!!

😂 love this segment 🫡

This is exactly me🥺😅

I love the discussion at the end about parents

Had 3 boys, you be a daughter to be sooo proud of❤, all respect 😊

Amazing!!!!!

Justin is a fucking cool dude, thx for existing

Very thought provoking. I'm in the U.S but I suspect that your experiences will resonate with our residents and attendings. The modern move (at least in the U.S) for students to pursue what were conventionally less competitive and less lucrative specialties like psychiatry in favor of their work-life balance is a clear indication that the new generation of physicians won't put up with the past system anymore. On the matter of not really knowing what you were getting yourself into, I find that medical school admissions committees have been taking that factor more into consideration recently in order to combat physician "burnout". My school is thankfully very supportive of student mental health and sabbaticals. Our admissions has favored slightly older students since they typically have more life and clinical experience to understand if medicine is the right path for them. We'll see in 10 years if this helps, but it still feels like a bandaid rather than a real solution. After all, you can't exactly know what it's like to be a physician until you become one so maybe we're just getting better at selecting the people who will put up with the abuse. Optimistically, I'd say that our generation of physicians will implement large, positive change from inside the system.

Could have avoided the constant giggling. Jason was great but I just couldn't concentrate with the constant laughing and giggling 🙄

Funny story and good insights

W insights

I really love these podcasts, why did yall stop it? ;-; Edit: "At least once a year", famous last words

The part about the parents was so true and funny. Very interesting episode.

My jaw dropped when y’all said the top students, say 500 apply, only 5 get in. I searched “chances of getting into med school overall” and it’s a 36% and with a 3.5-3.7 GPA, there is a 47% chance.

As the stranger telling you to look for more meaning in ur life, I'm offended

I wish you knew how much this helped me. I’m a Fina year medstudent

Psychiatrists are very disturbed people.

😂 haha, I'm a med student and I fainted by seeing blood which was drained from a cut of filariasis leg.! Omg..that was not scary though! But suddenly when the doctor started dressing the cut, I fainted Ofcourse I felt so funny for the incident happened but couldn't figure it out why it occurred 🤣

Nice and helpful video. I'm thinking about leaving medicine but I’m in the middle of my 4th year with the rotations in Argentina. In my country doctors are bad paid with less than 1000 U$D per month. Despite money I think that its going to be harder to be happy and feeling fulfilled while being a doctor with the great workload plus the bad salaries. I'm really interested in coding and programming so that would be the path that i would follow if i quit. I have invested 7 years in this career wich its free in my country you dont end it with a bill or something like that, i'm 25 years old now, quiting is not an easy desition. What would you recommend me?

I’m not an immigrant, but working in health care myself, I would NEVER recommend it to my own kids (too much debt and moral injury involved). I did encourage them to study engineering because there are so many different job options available with that degree.I have told them “once you can support yourselves financially, you can do whatever you want. Go back to school, travel, etc”

Nice

really enjoyed this podcast! it talked about some very personal issues that are going on around the world, community etc. yall have so much experience on these types of issues its astronomical! in a good way of course haha. I admire every single one of y’all

Amazing video

Welcome back, I really enjoyed this podcast as it comes close to home. Keep up the work.

I love this! thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

I'm into my 4th month of surgical internship in the US, but I've already decided to leave surgery and take some time off after this year to pursue education in something else I am terribly missing. Thanks so much for this; helps give people like me courage.

I went from pre med to dental due to life balance. I always wanted to be a doctor and idk even why i guess i always intrigued by the world around me and power lol. every now and then i will ask myself will i regret not being a doctor but then i remember the semester i overloaded myself and could not sleep at all. I just want 6-8 hours of sleep each night and a day to rest. I wanted to ask why wasn't your career as a doctor fulfilling

US PGY1 here-- never heard of the term "clerking" (?clarking lmao) used 😂 we would however "see the patient" instead (all elements implied--cc, hpi, ros, meds, allergies, fhx, shx, and physical exam), and subsequently "staff" the case (i.e. present the case with one's assessment and plan) with a higher-up/chief/attending

medicine can make money, but the time and sacrifice it gets there, is not to everyone's taste. Surgeons and Radiologists for example make upwards of 500-600k/year. but the process of getting there is painful and long, and many might not even get there even if they tried. It's a system that's designed to be a "king of the hill" or "if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen" type situation, which is not conducive to people who may not be in the right space or circumstance to handle this type of pressure.

I like how Ali Abdaal in one of his current videos said that he is considering of returning back to medicine after one year of hustling around with TH-cam as a creator.. He says the same, that he misses the feeling of passive interaction between co workers and patients... But now that he is a established TH-camr, he would consider working 2 days per week as a junior resident and dedicate the remaining days on TH-cam

thank you so much for this podcast. i especially love the "if you're thinking of taking a gap year, screw everyone and just do it" part haha. anyway, this encouraged me to quit medicine to become a day trader instead. i think i will be much happier. cheers.

Many of us worldwide including the NHS, UK are leaving the profession in huge numbers. We face corporate bullying, harassment, politics, underpaid with net take home pay after taxes, extremely poor work-life balance and poor job satisfaction, burn out, exhaustion, depression etc to say the least

What speciality were you in? Internal Medicine?

“While you’re doing it, it can be painful.” That describes nursing school to a tee!!!

Constant short staffing all around, from providers to support staff. Everyone fights for vacation time. I loved the job, but could not get time off when my family was on holidays.

Great talks here. Well done. Can't wait to hear some more content.

I enjoyed this video :))))

great video!

This was an absolute pleasure to do! After finishing semester 1 exams I feel like a changed man hahahaha Thank you for having me on! -Niket Shah

Thank you for sharing your story! I work in business and have been debating a career change, so this discussion has given me a lot to think about. Glad to see that Justin is doing well and enjoying life after taking the leap!

Glad you guys are back!

Great Insights!

So true...a tailor or a jeweller might be putting more care and time while stitching a dress or making a jeweller piece than a human being being looked after in a hospital... It is more of a taking care of the concept of hospital than caring a human being... From my own experience...

Thank you for making this. I learned a lot.

its called interviewing the patient

How does this video not have more likes or this channel not have more subscribers?? He's definitely speaking to my own thoughts I have regarding medical school that no one else talks about. Thank you for talking about the realities of working IN the field and not staying attached to the glamour of it all!

I think quitting medicine is really hard for a couple of reasons: so much time was sacrificed, the job can be incredibly rewarding, the pay is not terrible, but the stress takes too much toll, and it's just a job, it shouldn't make people miserable- I started working recently as an independent doctor and I've never been more stressed in my entire life. Thanks for the inspiration, gives so much hope!

Thank you for such an insightful episode. I really needed this right now and loved the discussions around uncertainty. I’m a Med student in the UK and worked as a pharmacist before this. As someone who had left the formal education system and was a professional, I’ve found the transition tough at times and the feelings of uncertainty can be quite discouraging. Hearing your different perspectives really helped me personally. It’s great to see these important conversations being discussed & I’m so glad I’ve come across the podcast 😊

This is such an important conversation to share, so thank you for putting it out there. I’m on a leave of absence, just after starting clinical years and currently re-evaluating my career. I think that day to day happiness is the key, because if that’s lacking it will quickly lead to burnout and dissatisfaction. Keep it coming! Cheers

I agree sooo much with the whole personality alignment concept. I started med school in 2015 & by the time I was in 2nd year I already started to notice that this just wasn't for me. I decided to just brush it off cause pressures of life/family etc & like just up & leaving med school is not an easy decision. So I stuck around & got into my clinical years in 2018 hoping that would clear things up for me. That's when shit really started to hit the fan because I was really just forcing myself to carry on with this thing that wasn't for me & my mental health went 6 feet under. I still managed to finish 5th year though I did fall behind by a month or so due to mental health deterioration. My final year was supposed to be last year but realising that I had already fallen behind and the thought of sticking it through beyond the 6 years for something I didn't want just didn't sit right. So at the beginning of that year I transferred my credits & opted to finish with a BSc in Medicine rather than becoming a doctor...just after I made that decision the pandemic hit & we were all sent home with the year becoming super chaotic & 6th year students still being sent back to the clinical platform in the midst of it all. The timing just felt right to me & when you know you just know. Anyway sorry for the rant, it's just really validating to see that I'm not alone in recognising the incompatibility of medicine with my personality. Great podcast by the way!