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Part 2: Allison V-1710 Dynamometer Demonstration
Bud Wheeler from Ace Allisons demonstrates testing an Allison V-1710-99A engine on their exclusive aircraft engine dynamometer. Bud takes you from engine start up through various engine power settings to power down. For more information, visit AceAllisons.com. Be sure to watch Part 1 for an in-depth explanation of our dynamometer.
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Bud Wheeler takes you around his exclusive dynamometer for testing vintage aircraft engines and explains the various parts and features in his shop. Part two will actually feature engine start up and testing. For more information, visit AceAllisons.com. Be sure to watch Part 2 for a full demonstration of our dynamometer. At Ace Allisons we test the Allison aircraft engines we rebuild for up to ...

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  • @nohandle5544
    @nohandle5544 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super setup, fantastic, thank you.

  • @derrickbarker343
    @derrickbarker343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is GOLD.

  • @Beemerboy324
    @Beemerboy324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was REALLY interesting! Thanks.

  • @HenrikBraun
    @HenrikBraun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a nice setup and a really clever absorber to use the compressor! But how do you start the engine? Do you use the starter for the jet engine or is there a clutch?

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We use the Allison engine starter, no clutch involved, Allison and turbine spin together without difficulty. When the Allison starts both spin together measuring the torque thru the torque transducer

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that you only go to 60" MAP. They're capable of at least 84" of MAP on 150 octane fuel.

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All Allisons that operated during WW2 were rated on 100 octane fuel. 150 octane was not widely available if at all.. The engine demonstrated is a single stage supercharger 8.8to 1 ratio with a war emergency rating of 60"map with a maximumof 62" map at the test site 3000 RPM. The only Allison engine that would make 85"map would have been 2 stages of supercharging -109 or a P-63 engine needing water / alcohol injection to prevent detonation.

  • @sandrawheeler3331
    @sandrawheeler3331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Bud, I see you are an expert on Allison Engines. I have two! My grandfather Ellis White was part of the design team when he was in the military. He purchased two engines for my dad who recently entered a skilled nursing home. In short, I wanted to know if you know anyone that would like to purchase the engine(s). The other one is in a formula boat. All are in fair condition, but only an expert would understand what I have and know how to operate them. I don't unfortunately.

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Sandra. I am sorry but I have retired as of June 2023 and am no longer a player in the Allison field. Their are other parties that may be interested so try reaching out to them. Bud

    • @sandrawheeler3331
      @sandrawheeler3331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Bud, Glad to hear you are retiring, and thank you for your response. Glad to know there are others out there that have an interest in the big beautiful engines!@@BudWheeler

  • @onemantwohands5224
    @onemantwohands5224 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahhhh this was soooo fun to see !!!! Thanks a million ❤

  • @garyplewa9277
    @garyplewa9277 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Designed with slide rules and paper. Machined well before CNC was invented.. An absolute work of art.

  • @pierluigiponziojapaneseswo8560
    @pierluigiponziojapaneseswo8560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good morning . please is possible have your phone number? i want buy one engine for my project. thank you

  • @Latuya-y1n
    @Latuya-y1n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the chts in one of those

  • @Latuya-y1n
    @Latuya-y1n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ace i have question between Harry A Miller and Glen H Curtis who was better engineer and faster in the early 1900s ?

  • @kristhompson8112
    @kristhompson8112 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally.. so nice to hear someone within the USA speaking metric as I have no reference to say whats 100 F ... we international viewers without doing a bunch of conversions have no idea , So thank you from me Kris P.S Whats a gallon ?? LoL 🤪😜🤨

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have your Celius double it and add 30 is very close to what the Imperial Measurement is e.g 36C double add 30 ands you get close 100F

  • @atholmullen
    @atholmullen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this dyno do counter-rotation engines?

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The test stand has a gearbox that is manufactured to accommodate both right-hand and left -hand Allison engines only. This is not a universal test stand for all types of engines it was manufactured only to test our Allison aircraft engines for installation for flight.

  • @raymondnicholson1492
    @raymondnicholson1492 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there so many exhausts on this engine for a v 12

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. The engine is a V-12 with 4 valve per cylinder or 2 exhaust and 2 intake per cylinder, therefore the 2 exhaust stacks per cylinder. Very advanced stuff for 1943

  • @edwardcarberry1095
    @edwardcarberry1095 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love It!! Subed

  • @BudWheeler
    @BudWheeler ปีที่แล้ว

    I have read about the early engines/pilots using higher than recommended power settings. This required Alliosn to start installing manifold pressure regulators. I have also heard about crew chiefs tampering with these. The facts are that the fuel (100 octane) was the limiting factor. 2" manifold pressure above the recomended begain detonation and that changing depending on outside air temp.

  • @lcskibird8883
    @lcskibird8883 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does your calibrated run stand check gear reduction unit oiling with out a F series nosecase?

    • @BudWheeler
      @BudWheeler ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. Removing the F-nose or propeller gearbox and installing the E-nose adapter changes oil demand on the system. We installed a calibrated orfice on the main oil gallery to simulate the installing of the F-nose

  • @311Bob
    @311Bob ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to have a packerd,Allison,Pratt and Whitney and a merlin in my front room instead of a 70" tv

  • @dyer2cycle
    @dyer2cycle ปีที่แล้ว

    When I think of Latrobe, PA, I think of Rolling Rock Beer! It was one of my favorites before AB gobbled them up....

  • @nigelbutler9488
    @nigelbutler9488 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thank you

  • @somethinburnin
    @somethinburnin ปีที่แล้ว

    Now a face to the name. Ol Live Wire tractor out of PA, Bob Whittenbrader, says Engine by Bud Wheeler!

  • @williambikash6645
    @williambikash6645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know the amount of hp the super charger draws from the engine at max boost? I add that figure to the engine hp output to cal fuel consumption

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had read years ago, If my memory severs me?? if and if?? A turbo charger produces about 480 Hp and the super charger uses about 400 hp. So there was a slight dual increase in HP? Any knows this is not accurate do, Please correct this. As no offence taken.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edwardcarberry1095 The superchargers main job was not to increase HP but to MAINTAIN the HP as the plane went up in altitude where the air is thinner and needs more air pumped into the engine !! !

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 Yes, I learnt that some 50 years ago.

  • @remkojerphanion4686
    @remkojerphanion4686 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sound - o man! I'd love to hear that thing go from startup to idle, to full power, and back down to idle again - just the engine sound without narration please! 😉

  • @johnvcramer5517
    @johnvcramer5517 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have made the wiring neater

  • @JoelHouser-pv6iu
    @JoelHouser-pv6iu ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no Alisons in PT BOATS?

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      joelHouser Because the M2500 Packard Marine was more powerful and more readily available, and designed as a PT Boat engine

  • @aerotech1bob
    @aerotech1bob ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice what dash number was it?

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. J79 compressor section. Art Arfons had a J79 in his Green Monster land speed record car. That engine was supposed to be "not available" to civilians back then, and the Air Force gave him a hard time about having one. I suppose years later, it has been declassified, and not a big deal to own. But it must have been kind of hard to find and expensive. How much power do you think the compressor section can absorb? Back in 1981 I was an engineering co-op student at Allison in Indianapolis, and spent 3 months as a mechanic in engineering test. The facilities they had were JUST PLAIN AWESOME. I worked in the large-scale compressor test facility for about a month, where they were testing the redesigned compressor for the T56 Series IV. That compressor took about 4500 HP to drive at rated speed and pressure ratio. The test stand used the hot sections from old J71 turbojets to drive the compressor being tested. I assisted the technicians during installation of the test compressor, hooking up instrumentation, and taking data during test. My biggest job was removing and replacing the fuel injection nozzles on the J71 hot section. This was all memorable stuff for a 19-year-old to be involved with.

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice-running Allison. And with data, too. I'm a total nerd on this stuff. Test setup is very well-engineered.

  • @briansilcox5720
    @briansilcox5720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice presentation Bud, good to see you again!

  • @colinashby3775
    @colinashby3775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Can you tell us what the oil consumption of a engine sound be. I was always led to believe it's high. But how high?

  • @Warhawknm
    @Warhawknm ปีที่แล้ว

    nothing but craftsmanship! Thank you for all the work you do!

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 ปีที่แล้ว

    In combat in WW2 pilots pretty regularly pulled 70 inches of manifold pressure which works out to about 1750 hp

    • @watsisbuttndo829
      @watsisbuttndo829 ปีที่แล้ว

      My grandfather was in Darwin Australia during ww2 and recounted that when push came to shove the P40 pilots ignored the operating parameters and the Allison seemed to accept it.

    • @capthawkeye8010
      @capthawkeye8010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watsisbuttndo829 The operating parameters were for prolonging engine lifespan more than they were hard points where failure could occur. Failure is more likely beyond the safe-operating limitations. But at no point in any aircraft does a manufacturer red line 2500rpm with the knowledge that at 2501rpm or even 2600rpm failure *will* occur. By 1941 anyway these engines were being produced like crazy and unhealthy or even destructive use of equipment meant absolutely nothing to the men using them for good reason.

    • @EstorilEm
      @EstorilEm ปีที่แล้ว

      The fuel and superchargers wouldn't allow for 70" on all but a VERY few variants. This one (-99) was rated just above 50" and 1360hp for war emergency power. Very few US engines were running anywhere near 70" even during late war, I think the P-47 N/Ms were around 72" but also generated around *2,800hp* at that pressure, which was similar for the F4U-5 but that didn't see combat.

    • @shaneconrad7816
      @shaneconrad7816 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fuel octane was much higher for the high performance fighters in WW2. Believe it was 130 with up to 150 octane available. Wonder if this test was with todays 100LL?

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sound of an Allison!

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a straight 12 or a V24? 😃

    • @aceallisons2639
      @aceallisons2639 ปีที่แล้ว

      The engine is an Allison V-12. It has 2 exhaust pipes per cylinder or 2 exhaust valves per cylinder as well as 2 intake valves per cylinder. Please look it up on wikpedia

    • @u.e.u.e.
      @u.e.u.e. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aceallisons2639 Thank you very much - even just the appearance is impressive! 😃👍 I also like the sound of engines with many cylinders. 😉

    • @sebclot9478
      @sebclot9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@u.e.u.e. Two intake and exhaust valves per cylinder is common on WW2 era V12 engines. This is not unique to the Allison. I mention it in the event you see the extra exhaust on other era engines.

    • @u.e.u.e.
      @u.e.u.e. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebclot9478 Thank you! 😃👍

  • @davidhuff5632
    @davidhuff5632 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation and content. Fascinating stuff, thank you.

  • @electrolytics
    @electrolytics ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome commitment to American Engineering. Thanks for keeping these running.

  • @davidbell7091
    @davidbell7091 ปีที่แล้ว

    now put a merlin on there.

    • @sebclot9478
      @sebclot9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would get similar numbers.

  • @EnglertRacing96
    @EnglertRacing96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could this dyno hold strega or voodoos merlin @ 3900ish hp? Or the cooper unlimited hydro twin turbo allison?

    • @aceallisons2639
      @aceallisons2639 ปีที่แล้ว

      A couple of thoughts. Our test stand is only for an Allison engine. A merlin would require a very different set up. Our torque transducer is rated for around 2400 Hp. Lots of numbers regarding horsepower bantered about( Example. 3900). I have been around and tested on a dyno these engines in many configurations and I can assure you they don't reach those numbers. Our stand is for testing Allison's for aviation use so I hope that helps you.

  • @danconser6709
    @danconser6709 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for Sharing! Nice Stand!

  • @scottpeters9911
    @scottpeters9911 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on ya! Surprised that it didn’t make more hp. Which grade of Avgas was used? As an A&P I find it very interesting that a J-79 comp section is cleverly used to provide cooling airflow. Good to know & a great show! Subbed!

    • @birdboy48
      @birdboy48 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the torque figures are important here.

  • @mysock351C
    @mysock351C ปีที่แล้ว

    5:45 I bet as a pilot in WWII that was probably your favorite sound in the world.

  • @nyftn
    @nyftn ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf 100 gallons per hour cruising lol .

    • @sebclot9478
      @sebclot9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is consumption at Maximum continuous power. Not cruise.

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup, that’s what *three spins* sounds like!

  • @householdemail1305
    @householdemail1305 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy their explanations with or in a relationship to certain things to help understand the things that mechanisms function. Maintenance is life.

  • @paulloveless4122
    @paulloveless4122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just fascinating

  • @paulloveless4122
    @paulloveless4122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well this is fascinating...

  • @pcmacd
    @pcmacd ปีที่แล้ว

    I never knew that turbans had bearings!

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pcmacd ANYTHING that turns, rotates has to have a bearing to ride on !!! DUUUUUHH!!!!!!!!

  • @TheAnonymous1one
    @TheAnonymous1one ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Love the sound of the engine

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 ปีที่แล้ว

      God Yes,! Love the sound of engines. The little bit which I did , many years ago I was able to tell which aircraft was above by the sound of the /that engine although being the same engines. Loved it, the Gent which I worked for was "GREAT"! HE WAS WONDERFUL.!

  • @TheAnonymous1one
    @TheAnonymous1one ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and explanations!

  • @jp-um2fr
    @jp-um2fr ปีที่แล้ว

    Not quite the grunt of a Merlin but a lovely sounding engine.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      jp-um2fr These Allison V1710 engines out grunted the 20 series and earlier Merlins as they were in case you did not know all also SINGLE stage supercharged, it was only the 60 series Merlin early 1943 that had the LATER, get that LATER newer 2 stage supercharger, they added a second compressor wheel to the supercharger and added a 2 speed gear box to turn the compressor FASTER at altitude. there were over 40 different models of Merlins produced throughout the war and most all dummies want to compare the LATE model 60 series as if ALL merlins were as such. and to compare the later merlins to the Allisons. That why the Allison Mustangs Mk I & II or P51A's would out run the later P51B/C'&D/K below 20,000 ft. the Allisons supercharger was tuned to the low med altitude the Merlin to High altitude. Those same early Allison Mustangs were also faster than the then current production $hitfire Mk V's with their single stage superchargers also and by 30 MPH !!!! The Allison did NOT get a later 2 stage supercharger because some dumb @$$ army brass thought the turbocharger was the answer but except for the P38 no room for the large turbo. It would have been nice IF the Allison would have gotten a 2 stage supercharger like so many other engines got. The Merlin the PW R1820's & the R2800's