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If you use og hardware I recomend getting an everdrive or a ezflash

Would you like to live your life in emulation/simulation in style of Matrix? Case closed.

I always wonder what the Neo AES would be for average game price? I’m glad I collected for Neo Geo and got a lot of games for okay deals.

There's so many games that are improved by ROM hacks, cheats, hardware hacks (CPU overclocking, removing sprite limits, etc) and input lag reduction (e.g. RetroArch's runahead) that sticking to the real thing would be very limiting in my opinion.

The value of emulation is awesome. There are a lot of pros to original hardware and that is my preferred choice most of the time. However, the stinger is the price tag. I say find a healthy mix of both. Emulating can often be like having a retro version of Game Pass. Use it to jump in and try something out, if you love it great go and look for a physical, if not whelp move on, you just saved yourself from buying a game you wouldn't have liked. I love emulation for arcade games the most. I love OG hardware but man collecting and maintaining arcade PCB's is an whole thing I am not willing to deal with right now. With MAME or MiSTer, I can play through Cadillacs and Dinosaurs and have unlimited fun! I will say though that if you are interested in original hardware then track down a CRT television. Seriously. Yeah, they are big and heavy, but it will save you a lot of hassle in the long run and if you look around it doesn't have to be expensive either. Plus your games will look amazing. I love the work that Mike Chi does on the Retrotink upscaler and if you are dead set on implementing a setup on a flat panel screen then go for it. But if you are thinking of plugging in you'r retro consoles into your HD/4k tv and get collecting, then your gonna realize that it can get complicated and expensive real quick if you are not happy with how it looks or plays. Whereas, just pluggin a good ol' CRT into the wall and your console to the CRT is about as easy as it gets. Plus it also looks and plays the best due to having 0 lag. Just throwing this out there. Have FUN!

PS2 has a ton of really cheap games, but some of the craziest games too. Kuon, Rule of Rose, Xenosaga Episode 3, the Silent Hill games like you mentioned. If you like Horror or JRPGs those 2 genres are generally the most expensive.

I like hearing about your experiences. When I missed working on my Atari Home Computers I had to turn to emulation to recover the experience. It was OK, but somehow just not the same. I finally had to get a USB adapter for my old CX40 joystick so I could play the games the way I used to. I recently got back all my old Atari computer stuff after thirty years. My beloved Atari 800 still seems to work OK but the keyboard doesn't work at all. This is a known problem and just requires some repair. My 1200XL is wonky and prints wrong characters on the screen. I don't know what's going on there, but I have a spare keyboard if I need it. The Atari 400 I bought used for $20 in 1985 still works just like the day I bought it because I thought it looked cute. At the time, I upgraded its RAM to 48K so it could run all the software my 800 could. The disk drives and cassette drive need work to run correctly again, but the cartridges I had still work just fine. At about the same time I got all my old hardware back I also bought the new Atari VCS game console and the 400 mini with several included fully licensed games. But these new Atari machines include new versions of controllers that I'm finding troublesome. And, yes, both of these new machines actually run emulators that will allow me to add my own games if I have them on a USB drive. When I was a kid we didn't have video games. I had already graduated high school before I started playing pinball machines. I did get to play the first video arcade game, Computer Space, in a pop-up pinball arcade tent at the Ohio State Fair (we called the game "Rockets and Saucers" but it was the first commercially available video arcade game). I was interested in computers and fascinated by Pong, Space Invaders, Asteroids, and Pac Man. I shoveled pocketfuls of quarters into Missile Command, Breakout, Lunar Lander, BattleZone, Centipede and Dig Dug. I was never interested in the original Atari VCS (2600) because of its primitive graphics. Also, I couldn't program it. But when my wife let me buy my Atari 800 on closeout for $299 after the 1200XL was released, I got as many of those old games that I could for my computer. I had turned my emulator down to 70% speed so I could better beat Missile Command, but it was unsatisfying. I think I would feel the same way about the Save States and Fast Forward that you mention. But actually playing games at all on my emulator is unsatisfying. On my new game Atari systems, the new controllers frustrate me. My new Atari VCS had the arcade version of Missile command that looks just like it did in the arcades, but the Classic Joystick is just too "hot" to work well with the game. I find it hard to control because it sends the cursor to the far corners of the screen at the slightest touch. I'm having trouble getting the Modern Controller to work with it at all. I tried using my old Atari CX22 Trak Ball Controller with my USB adapter, and it works MUCH better at controlling the cursor (Missile Command was the first arcade game that offered a Track Ball controller), but the trigger only launches missiles from the center missile base, not from the missile bases at either side of the screen. As it is, I'm back on my old Atari 400 (the membrane keyboard isn't nearly as bad as everyone says), largely because I find the gameplay more satisfying. I would like to have a handheld game system, but they all seem to be aimed at Nintendo and I don't get it. The Atari systems are less processor intensive and so, easier to emulate. But everyone seems to only want to emulate the 2600 games. I also have an old Atari 7800 that came with almost two dozen game cartridges. I had to buy a power supply through eBay for it, but the game controllers don't work. I'll have to wait until new ones are released on Amazon, like the CX30 paddle controllers. My old ones don't work anymore, so I can't play breakout on my old machines or on my new ones, and I need to get new controllers. Amazon says these will be released in June. Both of these controllers have a "+" after the model number so I'm guessing we might be getting a new Atari 7800+ to go along with the Atari 2600+. I would be reluctant to look for hardware as old as this on eBay, even though I did buy a power supply and that was OK. I'm not looking to buy more game cartridges because they've become collectors items, even if they don't work right. Don't forget to check Goodwill and thrift stores. Often they don't realize what they have. Even more so for the consoles and game systems needed to play these cartridges. "Original hardware" in good working order is getting harder and harder to find, and much more expensive. I'm lucky to have what I already bought thirty and forty years ago. Some of it even still works. I got a modern device for my Atari 400 that will let me load software from a Micro SD card, so I can load all my emulator games onto my original hardware.

I only play on og hardware I never sold my old games and just kept them now ny collection has grown and its pretty huge valued at like 15k on price charting

What's Cregs list?

The easiest way to save money is to stay away from Nintendo consoles.

Yes, they are in fact, that bad still.

Modded Original Hardware is the way to go. Incase the games become more expensive. Also Flashcarts. Modding a Xbox Original, GameCube, or PS2, helps ALOT in playing the games. And on in its original forms. And the fact that you could through in SNES and stuff too on them if you can't afford a SNES. And if you got SNES and other Cartridge consoles. Flashcarts are the best way to have all your games to play through.

Well done video with some great pointers! Perhaps the days of buying whatever you want on a shoestring budget are gone, but there are several options to play every game on real hardware (Everdrive carts, etc.) for the cost of a few expensive games.

The cut of point for original hardware for me is 6th gen hardware. 5th gen and below hardware is unreliable and their pcb are beginning to fail.

12:27 Then . . . Just ignore the average and look at the median instead.

Prices aren't a concern for me since I don't collect to sell. I collect games to preserve and play.

Literally if you want to play original Hardware. Buy a console. Mod it. Or put a Flashcart in it. Doin. I sold my whole collection because it doesn't really matter anymore to me. It just collected dust on the wall. I rather sell 8t to people who wanted to experience it like i did. And now. Im more happier knowing my games are being cherished where ever they go. I honestly would have felt bad if my games went to another Collector who just held onto the games and waited another 10 years to sell them for more money. Instead of to familys who want to enjoy playing games. I use to be a collector. Now i kinda hate people like me who try to have a big D energy about there collection. Its really NOT interesting at all knowing that one day you myt die. And your collection just goes to someone else. Its really not that interesting to me anymore because of that myn set i had. What happens if i die? Who would want my collection? And who would be able to get it? In the end. Its the journey. Of playing games. Not trying to collect them all. Or all the things you love. If you really love something. You would let it go....

I could easily recommend an entire retro game setup with systems, controllers and games for $1,000 all in, supporting thousands of hours of gameplay. So it really depends on what you are buying. Adjusted for inflation many games are either cheaper or in line with their original prices.

the pokemon touchscreen menu was always the coolest

Bruh, I loved everything you were talking about UNTIL you said that a CRT looks terrible. You lost me with that one, that absolutely makes no sense regarding Retro Gaming. They go hand and hand if you knew better. Overall great video, you had plenty of other great things to say.

FIFA 14 was the last fifa for ps2, still not worth paying for 😂

If you're not investing, or you don't have an insane amount of money, it's just a dumb thing to buy these games If you want to play, there's a way for almost every older console to "hack" it, so you only need the console psp, vita, 3ds, ps1-ps2-ps3, even gameboys

"Crack head sellers" lol

I'm 35 and I grew up playing on emulators before they went mainstream, so using my retroid pocket 3+ actually does evoke nostalgia for me.

Best combo imo is a new 2dsxl or 3ds xl with an analogue pocket 👌

Nuh uh I aint playing MK Wii On 480i when dolphin exists

Flashcarts are a great solution for using retro consoles

The biggest benefit of original hardware is that for a good chunk of these consoles, you have both the options of playing these games physically and homebrewing the system. I find this to be particularly useful with the PS2 and Wii.

I love this, great tips. Of course I am one that wants to buy EVERY game for the NES and Sega Genesis, so going in I know I will be working well past retirement age, lol. But overall the tips are fantastic and I love the encouragement

No

Great video

maybe if old retro games didn't cost insane amounts of money

Because that’s how god intended it

If you put a CRT filter on an emulator, you are getting the retro experience you wanted without dragging a CRT tv or spending hundreds on an upscaler that applies a crt filter the same as the emulator does. Try retro games on a projector, the image ends up looking similar to CRT due to imperfections.

all trash arguments, srry champ

What a stupid question. Of course they are. Its ridiculous.

The problem is the “blue book” for games is nonsensical and obtuse 🤦🏻‍♂️… vehicle book values are based on condition … but folks out here selling dog chewed copies no label toy box trash for the “loose price “ 🤦🏻‍♂️ … with the rise in popularity… there needs to be a blue book overhaul to keep these gougers in check…

I still prefer playing PS1 games with geometry correction and 4K upscaling.

More importantly, I desire not just the original hardware, but also the original media, i.e. original cartridges. Flashcarts and disk simulators are absolutely a life-saver for budget reasons, but sometimes they create gaps in the saving process (carts). I'm not into arguing about period-accurate displays or TVs, so I exclusively collect handhelds with built-in screens, but ultimately the TVs and external displays will become something no self-respecting retro gamer can avoid.

for some games, fucking A RIGHT its expensive. lol but for real though, some people just look them up online and think its okay to list their prices like that. my local pawnshops are now doing this. luckily i bought most of them before the younger kids took over and hiked up the prices. i bought disney basketball on gamecube for 15 before they caught on. i think it all started with that whole wata grading situation and that copy of mario 64 going for a million dollars that ruined everything.

I agree - flashcart/R4 with GBC, GBA SP, and 3DS are my definitive ways to play!

OG Xbox Games are NOT well covered on newer Xbox Generations... Xbox 360 is! And btw. i would not even pay a DIME for Metroid on NES... "Stinker" Good video though

I live for the forgettable games!! There's so many hidden gems in those titles because people don't ever expect them to be good.... and I mean, yeah most of them suck but it's the hidden gems that make it worth it

I like playing 3D games in hd which is why I stick to emulation and yes there is some glitches but I don't care.

"Save states ruin hard games." No, that's where you're absolutely wrong. If a game is only good because it's frustratingly hard, then it isn't really all that good. Remember, these old games were modeled after coin-op arcade machines that were designed to eat another quarter every 2 minutes, and they didn't always adjust for that when designing or porting to the home market. Difficulty was even weaponized to artificially inflate the replay-ability of certain games so you couldn't beat them on a rental weekend. Why do you think Nintendo Power and the Game Genie did such bonkers sales numbers? We were desperate for every little tip or tool that would make these games easier for us to beat! Example: Bayou Billy is way harder than Mega Man 2, but not remotely better, nor is it worth your time to find out why. Contra, however, is hard as hell, but it's so damn fun that its difficulty doesn't matter - most Gen-Xers' memories of this game coexist hand-in-hand with the Konami Code, yet it still easily ranks as one of the best 8-bit games ever released. Battletoads is honestly straight trash - if you actually LIKE it, you're better off investing your time into TMNT2, River City Ransom, Double Dragon 2, or Mighty Final Fight - same type of game, but way better, regardless of difficulty. No need to guilt-trip yourself over using save-states, because you'll still get 100% the same fun experience I did as a kid.

Nope . Officially licensed retro games on official new hardware is 100 times better lol

Your whole take on fast forwarding JRPG's is on point. It turns it into a completely different game, usually for the worse.

Save states really are a mixed bag. I think save states ruin more modern retro games (N64, PS1 and onward). But for games older than that... the available continues in a game was often times not a concious game design decision, but rather nothing more than a way to pad out the lenght, given technical limitations.

I'm with you on the feeling of that original experience. Case in point, playing N64 games on Nintendo Switch online with a Switch Pro controller or Joy Cons feels off. With retro game prices being so high, like you I'm happy emulation is an option, but also I'm glad for stuff like the Mister project, Flashcarts, Softmods and ODEs, as well as new retro inspired controllers. The retro-bit Saturn pad is a personal favourite for that particular library.

Debo decir que hay ciertos factores que han provocado el incremento de los juegos retro: 1) Los juegos actuales cuyos costos son muy altos. 2) Los juegos mal elaborados o con demasiado DLC. 3) Los juegos plagados de micro transacciones o pagos. 4) La nostalgia y la curiosidad de las nuevas generaciones. 5) El maltrato, el uso inadecuado de muchos juegos retro dada su antigüedad. Asimismo, es importante tomar en consideración que el costo de los juegos retro varía en cada país o región de acuerdo a sus preferencias. Por ejemplo, en los Estados Unidos los juegos de Baseball, Futbol americano y los FPS tienen una demanda constante. En cambio, en Latinoamérica y Europa son muy buscados los juegos de futbol soccer y los juegos de peleas. Mientras que; en Asia los JRPGs y las Novelas Visuales acaparan mucho la atención en términos generales. Igualmente, no cabe duda que hay ciertas franquicias que son muy populares y por lo tanto sus juegos son muy a costosos. Por ejemplo: The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, Metal Gear, Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Contra, Super Mario, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter, etc. Bajo esa tesitura, siempre hay que tener cuidado de los vendedores que incrementan excesivamente el costo de los juegos retro porque se aprovechan de la falta de experiencia en este rubro, o porque hay cierta escasez de algunos títulos. En conclusión, siempre es importante comparar precios cuando se buscan videojuegos retro. Gracias por este video informativo. Los mejores deseos para este canal.