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The wire coming out the base of the base (connected to the black terminal) can be at right angles to the incoming wire but should not start in front of the base. The setup I've used is not recommended but you can get it to work.

Is it a Twenty 25 or similar mower with a perimeter wire or a Twenty ZR without a perimeter wire?

@@therobotmower9572 It’s the twenty ZR without the perimeter wire. Thanks for replying.

@@marypryor6645 if you have a look at the manual (page 12 onwards) it goes through the edges that are unsuitable for the mower and what you can do to make them suitable

The ZR doesn't have a perimeter wire (the 25 does)... but if the ZR is what you want then I'd you look at the manual (download from therobotmower.co.uk/product/ambrogio-twenty-zr/) on page 24 onwards, it shows how to lay a guidewire to get it from one area to another.

Hi Tomas, have you used the ZR and had a problem or do you have a problem all robot mowers in general?

We solved this issue by placing stones along the edge of lawn. It was cheapest option. We have also strung rope. 6iinches across an area to make the mower concentrate on a specific area. 😀

Then you need something like a Ambrogio 4.36

@@therobotmower9572 yes. without perimeter wire

It depends on which version you have.

It is mowing, it does not have a detection phase as it is always checking what is in front of it. The mowing pattern is random on the ZR. If it senses an obstacle then it will turn around and leave about 15cms.

If the edge is patio, it will cut over the edge, if the edge is raised then sit 10-15cms

It does need a guide wire to get it back to the base and also to take it to remote areas. From the testing I've done, I've been impressed, the only thing is not good at is identifying sudden drops I.e. if you have a drop from the lawn onto a flower bed... but there are ways around it if you look at the manual: therobotmower.co.uk/product/ambrogio-twenty-zr/

There are a few on Facebook... search for Ambrogio robot mowers uk.

No it has a Radars which identify grass and obstacles

Hi Ross, you need to ensure that the mower is properly aligned with the charging contacts when it docks. If it is slightly too the left or right it, it may come back out and try again. You can use the docking shift in the app or move the wire under the base.

Brilliant, I will try that thank you for the advice I really appreciate it.

No time as I just used it as a 'drop & go' I.e. just put it on the lawn and pressed start as I have another mower which usually more this. To install it properly, you would need to put the base station on the lawn and lay a guideline so it can find the base... probably 30mins - 1 hour but may be more of you have a larger/ more complex garden.

@@therobotmower9572 , Thanks for the answer! Have you had any experience of installing robots without a cable at all (EPOS, etc.)?

@@user-nn9mo3qf1r I haven't but the problem with GPS RTK solutions (EPOS etc.) is that the mower and additional receiver (base) need line of sight access to the GPS satellites which is difficult in gardens with trees, fences, walls etc. Read the article on our blog.

@@therobotmower9572 , O'k, thanks!

I know, apologies. I have bought a clip on mic now.

@@therobotmower9572 Its fine :D just thought i would let you know, im a Automower installer my self, i install Solo By Al-ko and Ambrogio robots :)

@@danieljrgensen5721 How do you find the Al-ko robot mowers?

@@paulhorti3604 We are Solo By Al-ko Dealer here in denmark 1 of many. =)

Hi Martin, if you mean size wise then it can mow up to (1000 sq.m.) - therobotmower.co.uk/product/ambrogio-twenty-zr/. Paul

@@therobotmower9572 thanks for your answer. Theoretically yes, for which size would you actually recommend it.

If you have a simple layout then I would expect it to cover the 1000 sq.m., if it is a complicated layout then that would reduce the coverage. For comparison: It has a 5Ah battery similar to the Twenty Elite S+ which covers up to 1300 sq.m. but the ZR lacks the GPS/ smart mowing capability which reduces it's coverage. The Twenty Elite has a 2.5Ah battery and will cover 1000 sq.m.

@@therobotmower9572 thank you!

Hi Robert, there is no theoretical limit on the size of an island but if i requires a lot of wire or makes it difficult to get round the back of the island then you may need to consider other options. How big is the island and how big is the total area?

Hi, sorry just seen your question. There are 2 reasons I can think of for your position being unavailable: 1 - you have so much cover/ buildings that the mower cannot get a fix on your position 2 - there is a problem with the gps module in your mower I would try: 1 - update the software on your mower...even if it is up to date, refreshing the software sometimes kicks the gps into life 2 - I would take your mower to an open space and see it it picks up your position...turn it off and on and then leave it for 10 mins 3 - contact your dealer

@@therobotmower9572 Thank you so much for your reply! It's working now. I wasn't aware, but apparently I had to wait a couple of weeks after activating my mower for the GPS GeoFence to start working.

Worhtless

Better than a Husky as it's physically much smaller

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Bruh 😮……

What do you mean when you say teething problems and how can i avoid that?

@@RT-qz5ci We cleared a few trees out this spring and laid some lawn to the ground was uneven and it got stuck in one or two of the potholes. We simply just filled them in. It also snagged on an explosed root on a 25 year old cherry tree so we just built up the soil around the root and reseeded the patch. We also have low hanging trees and stubs around part of the lawn and we just pruned back some of the low hanging branches. All of the above took less than 30 min to sort and I’ll just keep an eye on the perimeter over the remainder of the summer. Every morning we wake up to a freshly mowed lawn whatever the weather.

No, it only goes down the passage when going to/ from an area so the blades are not turning. You just need to ensure that you don't schedule a border cut or block it off so it doesn't go down the passageway when it does a border cut.

@@therobotmower9572 How do you prevent a border cut for that area alone? Or do you have to not use border cut at all?

@@P44man you can either turn off the border cut completely or put a obstacle on the wire just as it is about to go into the passage - it would bump into it and then loop across to the other side of the passage and carry on.

@@therobotmower9572 The passage is >10m long though. Its about 1 meter wide (its a path with raised beds on either side). I worry its going to try mowing there, and go back and forth forever.

@@P44man if the passage is 1m wide then the mower will only go down the passage when it is going to/ returning from an area... you can make sure of this be making the gap between the wires to be 30cm.

The wires need to be at least 30cms from each other. If you have a setup where the mower can travel along the same wire to get to an area as it comes back then the other wire can be at the edge of the passage as it will not travel over it. You also need to ensure that the mower won't go down the passage when returning to base i.e. have it traveling away from the wire on the return. You need to turn the border cut off or put a block in place to ensure it does not follow the other wire when it does a border cut.

The build quality is excellent, have a look at the youtube videos comparing then to a husquvarna. I would go for the S+ for 1000 sq.m.

Do you mean when it doubles back on itself? That was 13cms apart, haven't tested it at less than that but that doesn't mean it won't work.

@@therobotmower9572 yes I will try that.

Hi, The wire going into the base (from a clockwise direction) sticks out into the garden and then doubles back on itself - if you look at the video just as it goes back to the base you'll see it turn into the garden and then back again to the base . The manufacturers spec. says it needs to be a straight 2m run but with trial and error you can reduce this. The wire coming out of the base, comes out the back of the base, around the right hand side of the base and then follows the perimeter of the garden. The manufacturers spec. says the wire should not go in front of the base so you might need to put the base slightly on the lawn but again with a bit of trial and error you may be able to push it to the edge of the lawn. Hope that makes sense. Paul

@@therobotmower9572 thanks Paul💪 i'll try like that.

How you finding it? Would you recommend buying one.. thanks

@@damienhenry510 Hi, they are great little machines and compared to others on the market they are smaller, lighter and more agile.

Hi, you do need a perimeter wire for the Twenty - this was just running in a demo mode. If you want machine that doesn't need a perimeter wire then we have the Ambrogio L60 (therobotmower.co.uk/product/l60/) or the larger S+. Paul

Hi, it is noisier than our other mowers but this was a 2019 model which had brushed motors, the 2021 models have brushless motors which are much quieter (65 db) i.e. as loud as a normal conversation.

We have two 100 sq.m. areas that it mows but the machine is capable of mowing up to 1000sq.m

@@therobotmower9572 are you satisfied What are the advantages / disadvantages?

@@76manix Very satisfied. It is very small when compared to other mowers so it's well suited for a smaller garden but still has all the tech. (GPS and Internet connectivity).

That si the great thing about the L60, we now have an S+ version which can cover a bigger area

Glad you like them!

Overall the twenty is quieter that the 4.0 (57db vs 63db) and both are at the lower end compared to a conversation. The sound from the blade is quiet different when there is not much grass to cut - with the twenty, the blade does ping as it hits the grass.

Thank you - 4db in overall difference is quite a lot and is definitely a plus for the Twenty Elite. Guess the round 6blade cutter is stiffer on the 4.0 elite and causes less pinging

It's been working really well, better than I expected as its in such a confined space but it can mow up to 1000 sq. m.. Have a look at our website form more details: TheRobotMower.co.uk. I've also posted videos of the installation if you haven't come across them: th-cam.com/video/BalpHLtGgEk/w-d-xo.html

Hi Nazim, unfortunately it does. The only robot mower that doesn't need a wire is the L60 (th-cam.com/video/WHCAuFR3uzw/w-d-xo.html). Regards, Paul