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@yves0315 been there dropped 200 mmr to chasing monkeys :D (got 9/10 wins in gc this season)

@@teagravy Close one!

@@alislam34 awesome to hear!

either the tap is too short or too long, adjust it based on where you land, if there's a delay between the counter turn and flip you might also go flying off course

@@Krubus do you know why it is i always go supersonic after those lines? i'm 100% waiting for the car to drop first, cant tell if it's something to do with the flip not being tight enough of just something else, i'm always like half a foot from the ball before it disappears, i've just been trying for like an hour and i haven't done it once

(copy pasted because I've answered this on another comment) the direction doesnt matter much, you'll find learning one is more comfortable for you and you can stick to it, it will slightly effect how u land at the ball so on diagonal kickoffs it might make a tiny difference but both are fine to do, just you need to adjust differently on spawns like the far back side ones. aka no you don't need to learn both imo

@@Krubus alright thanks a lot man, by the way Ive been trying to learn this way for the past few days but i cant get it to hit the ball in time on musty's pack even if my cancel delay and flip timing is good (theres a bakkesmod plugin to show that). Any idea what I should do?

@z.ahiriyyah I never used that plugin xD just let your car drop before you go and make sure you break it down step by step, go as straight forward as possible (tiny counter turn the other way before you flip), without a clip of you doing it its hard to say, let me know if u upload yourself doing it might be able to catch the issue that way :)

also the timing of when you start your flip is important, it's a bit later than feels natural

@@Krubus yeah I tried to replicate how you did it with my variation of the flip. BTW I uploaded a clip on my yt account. I'm not sure what I did wrong but what I noticed that me shifting airroll to D was much earlier than you did it (but I don't know if that affects the flip). Another thingm I didn't go straight for as long as you mentioned I just realised that. BUT sometimes I did go left but it still failed. Is it my technique, movement or timing?

Thanks! It's 107, 280, 100, -3, .3, 4, 1.3, .75

@briixus i had n key rollover issues on my older keyboards. Try using shift to airroll like my speedflip example video (just make sure you hold the cancel through the flip unlike me :p)

@@Krubus thanks i'll look into it, it's such an annoying issue

@@samukai82 keychron k2

the tutorial I made for kbm uses q/e, you can do any method that works for you :)

@samukai82 personally slowing the game speed down messes with my timing, if you check out the tutorial I posted it breaks it down step by step. To summarise, do a tiny turn before you flip then diagonal flip the other way, cancel it immediately after the second jump (hold s and air roll through the flip) and try to make sure you land flat and straight. Also when you respawn let your car drop. Good luck!

@@Krubus This saved me so much confusion, I felt like I was doing everything correctly. So I wanted to check it with the pack, but couldn't get to the ball in time a single time. Seems like its my habit of immediately going after spawning. never though about the car dropping in affecting it. 🤦‍♂

@@HaircombMan No way!

input overlay for OBS :)

@@Krubus thanks bro

it's in the description :)

@@yo-Jordiewatch4 could you show me a clip of the world record? I didnt find anything

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@@Krubus th-cam.com/users/shortsr1E4wzFuEtE?si=hw7y49KBg8yZdVsW btw the world record is 9 seconds if it won’t let you click on the video also sorry for the late response

@@yo-Jordiewatch4 ok thanks

check the description :)

@@ivydanicaalto I wouldn't agree with breezi but ok ;p

you can try using air roll bind instead of q/e it also works and doesn't require you to slide your fingers (diagonal flip using a/d+w+shift or whatever your bind for it is)

my other video on this 'example musty' showcases this but you want to hold the cancel the whole way through the flip

@@Krubus I've been thinking about it for a while, and I found that's it's really great if you speedflip with W+E and then S+D with Powerslide. The problem with this was that it was too complex. It required 5 keys on the keyboard. I simplified it to just W+D then S+D with Powerslide. I only use 4 keys this time, making the action easier to perfrom. The possibility of failing depends only on 4 instead of 5, making it more likely to nail the speedflip. Also it's easier to do simple things than complex ones. So this is what I found: Use WDS space, because a W+E and W+D is the same. It's a diagonal. So you diagonal with W+D, keep your finger on D, press S and hold space (powerslide). It is very important to hold powerslide, since you can do airroll without binds, and you will land more clearly. So you basically diagonal flip, then cancel, then air roll (without air roll bind), then powerslide. I would be interested in your take on this. W+E and W+D is the same, so i decided to cut out binded air roll from use in speedflip. WDS and space. I hope I choose the better one!

@@gergelyozsvar9890 that is what I was talking about, you can see me do it this way in the musty speedflip test example on my channel :) whatever way works for you!

@@Krubus I can now do a speedflip to the left, but not really to the right (it's 50% that it's going to work). I've seen pros do a speedflip only to one side. My question is that is it really necessary to be able to speedflip in both directions? Is it okay if I do it only to the left? My hand is probably in such a way where it's easier to do it to left. If I do it to the right, then it's more uncomfortable; and I can't move my fingers that fast.

I made a tutorial about this and that uses the method you describe but I personally find doing this to be more consistent (the way your fingers move and adjust makes you accidentally side/front flip cancel) both are valid, its down to preference but using q/e lets u control it more to land perfectly straight at the end

I made a tutorial for it check my more recent videos :) you've got this, take it step by step it takes time

sunsetter iirc

@@Krubus thx

I will sub

What car noise did u use

@@animefan-x6x I honestly have no idea, default? xD

No hating, just noticed that

did you watch the whole video by the way? just curious because I talked about trying it with limited boost+respawn which gives you the starting boost amount, the examples at the start are just to show the inputs :)

whoops wrong video, thought this was on the tutorial video xD this example requires you to hold boost to hit the ball so it's more for making sure your inputs are correct rather than making a realistic kickoff (a clue being that its a short straight line to the ball unlike any kickoff spawn)

​@@Krubusyou said nothing😭😭

@@winieri yes because I wrongly assumed this comment was on my kickoff tutorial as it's more up to date

bakkesmod - enable alpha boost (or waste money to get it :3)

thanks for the tips, I do train them a lot but struggle with consistency in ranked 1s (I get a mechanical brain freeze for some reason) probably just nerves

@@Krubus Ah well, nothing to be nervous about, it's just a game! Play to have fun not to be the best and you'll get there eventually

@@Stef21256 yeah it's my least played mode so I'm trying to focus on decisions over mechanics, mechanically I feel fairly confident outside shooting and speedflipping consistency

cool, got any tips? I didn't warm up so I didn't play great but if there's anything specific about my gameplay I'd love to hear your feedback :)

in hoops c2, peak gc in 3s

powerslide/air roll, but I would recommend using directional air roll because it gives you better control (new method explained in my turorial)

@@Krubus ok, thx, but i have a question, when i use air roll pn shift, the car get a rotate of 150° and that's isn't a speed flip, so i use a ctrl for powerslide and shift for air roll, thats is function?

@@WaurWuarlynlyanBRAZIL you need to air roll after the flip to straighten out, look at your nose and when it's flat is when you let go and use a/d to straighten out (if you use air roll left/right) otherwise just try to keep rolling after the flip for a split second

I can't make anyone do any method, Q+W just lets you control air roll and turn seperately so I feel it's cleaner to me but do whatever way you prefer

it's a replay

I modified evample's settings: 107, 270, 100, -3, 0.3, 4, 1.3

@@Krubus thxxxx

@@Dephyrus edited distance to 270, just checked on pc now :p no problem

@@Krubus ok

the direction doesnt matter much, you'll find learning one is more comfortable for you and you can stick to it, it will slightly effect how u land at the ball so on diagonal kickoffs it might make a tiny difference but both are fine to do, just you need to adjust differently on spawns like the far back side ones.

thank you mate @@Krubus

@@mateusz9608 no problem :)

Ok so I've been trying it for like 40 mins and right after leaving this comment, I tried slowing the game to 50%, but I feel like that just threw my timing off. I tried 75% and managed to land it 2-3 times, so I went back to normal game speed. In ~6 minutes I managed to hit the ball 3 times with many tries. It's insane how fast you have to do the inputs, but I'm assuming the pack is for the PERFECT speedflip, so I guess my speedflips aren't so bad? EDIT: So I can do it somewhat consistently now, I practiced it 90 mins today. The biggest thing for me was noticing that the car should stay as close to the ground as possible: the problem is that when you do the first jump, you have to really tap it for a microsecond. If you hold it even just a bit too long, your car will go upwards more and you won't get back to the ground fast enough to reach the ball. I think that's the best tip I can give to anyone learning.

@@dariusb3559 yes very short taps for your jump, they don't need to be super close to each other (you don't need to mash it as fast as possible) but the shorter the better, it's most important to time the cancel to be immediately after your second jump. If you are holding the cancel the whole way through, using shift is fine I just found it smoother as you can control the air roll and turn properly, it's easier to land perfectly straight whereas with shift you have to awkwardly time letting go of shift to correct your car to be straight. If you can do it this way it's fine I just find that harder personally.

if you mess up your car easily veers off as you land, you might hit the ball on the musty pack but will find the 6th shot of the preflip pack very hard as your car won't always land perfectly straight, either way well done! I can't make you do either way I just used to do it with shift and ended up letting go of the cancel to try and land straight which was wrong.

lastly, yes it's a grind to learn AND to relearn but imo learning it with Q/E is more worth it, I'm still not 100% consistent with it but I only recently swapped and I'm already getting it most of the time (when your hands are cold you might not let go of the counter turn before the flip in time and make your car do a frontflip by accident)

@@Krubus Thank you my guy, very informative.

never been a better one