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That is what I was thinking! Judy: Moved on I think pretty quickly in this ending, like to quickly. in a short amount of time (like what..1-2 weeks apart?) she lost 2 people she cared about and one she was actually lovers with, and in 2 years she moved on, found someone, and got married. I don't know. It seemed kinda quick to me. Panam: I 100% believe that she just wouldn't cut you off completely. No ifs ands or butts, with how close you were to her and how close you were to the Aldecaldos. I think Panam and the rest would 100% want to see you. Rogue: I do think would help you out cause as you said she went through the same thing. I think she would at least help you get started. I don't think she would just say "Listen you are welcome here but if you want your legacy to stay intact maybe don't". WIth how many favors V would have had and with Rogue's and Mr. Hands (Yes I think he would 100% help, you helped him a bunch and he is generally a good guy from what it looks like) would become a good fixer pretty quickly. What I think this ending really does is highlight how good of people Misty, Vic, and Kerry are. The three truly want to help you but just can't cause their hands are tied. I think that the writers wanted to make the saddest ending and just wrote it like that even if it was against their character. They tried to put a tiny bit of hope in for V but for me I think it was just overshadowed by literally everything else that happened.

Reasons Why: 1. Duel Wielder uses almost the exact same wording as the Light Property when describing the extra attack, with the only change being "A Melee Weapon that lacks the Two-handed Property." This implies that Duel Wielder is not giving a "3rd attack", and instead modifying the Light Property. 2. The Nick Mastery would normally provide a method to get three attacks. Two attacks with the Light property, one attack with Duel Wielder. However, the sentence "You can make this extra attack only once per turn," prevents that, since it seems to be referencing the "extra attack of the Light property". Conclusion; This is super unclear wording, and if they were trying to mean something else, like three attacks, they definitely should've done another pass on the editing.

That was another option of how to interrupt them! I am glad that it isn't just me. After some thought there is three different ways to interrupt this and you can make an argument for each, I believe. 1) with two light weapons with nick you can get three attacks cause nick frees up bonus action. What is preventing you from using that bonus action for a light weapon property attack? Just choose not to use nick cause it says you "can" and you can make "this" attack once per turn this attack referring to the nick attack. Dual wielder lets you use more weapon options. 2) light weapon and nonlight weapon with duel wielder and nick. You get 2 attacks on your main attack phase, much like you said. 3) a light weapon (with nick) and a non-light weapon gives you two attacks on your main and dual wielder gives you another one as a bonus action, giving you three attacks. (which is what I think they meant for it to happen) Conclusion: I think Nick is the problem child in this whole thing. Cause it is either a) giving you a new type of attack (going back to interruption A) or B) uses up the "attack" part of the bonus action (going back to how you interrupt it or interruption B in this post)

I am fine with bittersweet or bad endings as well. They can be really good and fun to see. However when you have like 6 endings all of them are bittersweet at the very least. There is a "happy" ending but it's at a catch. I understand that having a truly happy ending might ruin the theme of Cyberpunk/Night City. But like I don't think it would hurt it either. Especially when you have to do a lot of work for it or easily missed. Just felt like kinda I don't know stupid because as you kinda said. Doesn't matter how nice you are or anything you are just kinda left behind.

​@@Mundonnable While I agree with you on part of the premise (some of CP's ending being sometimes needlessly depressing just for the sake of being depressing and a general lack of having anything meaningful to say about the cyberpunk themes) I do disagree with you on a good ending not ruining the vibe. Even though I don't think endings should be bad or bittersweet for no reason, I also think it's thematically appropriate for there to be no "good" ending. Because there are already "good" endings, in some you leave the city with your family and people who love you in search of a last hope but even if you don't get it, you get happiness until then. In others you achieve your greatest dream of becoming a legend, then go even further in a heist that will either have you go in a blaze of glory or actually get a cure to your illness and be the greatest legend Night City has ever seen. Those are pretty good ending, especially by Night City's standards and if you really want an ending that feel better than those, an ending that's not bittersweet, you basically enter the territory of ending with no real downside and those have a lot of issues depending on the game and the genre: 1) they become considered the "canon", "real" or "best" ending. Even if someone doesn't follow the discourse surrounding the game, most people will probably google "how to get the best ending" when you finish the game. That's a huge blow to meaningful choices. It can be fine if there are two main endings, one good one bad, cause even if the bad one is only played by a minority that's still quite a few people, but with 5 endings who are cannibalising each other, when only one will statistically matter, that's a problem. Now this isn't a insurmountable issue in itself, games have managed to thrive with a better ending despite this issue but it's not the only one: 2) You've got the blow made to the meaning of other endings: Let's go back to the ending I was dreaming about last post, an ending where you learn that giving up on a dream is heart wrenching, you can also live a life beyond that, maybe even a happy one surrounded by people you love (essentially a better Tower ending). How can the message of this ending feel genuine when with a few different choices you can get an ending where you have all those things and don't have to give up on your dreams? It makes no sense, no the message of that ending feels fake, instead you feel "I can have everything if I make good choices" as a message. Games with multiple endings are better offered in two variants: The first type is those with exclusively good and bad endings, when it's unambiguous that you fucked up and got a bad ending or succeeded and got a good one. This is a classic and it works well although even it can be criticised for a lack of meaningful choice (Dishonored for example was criticised for this, but I personally loved the "bad" ending so I liked this approach there). The second type is those where even the best endings are bittersweet. It's the only way the message delivered by the bittersweet endings can feel truthful and resonate. If there's a genuinely good ending, the bittersweet endings become just another "bad" and "suboptimal" ending and its meaning will inevitably get contradicted by the existence of the objectively better ending. And if the other ending isn't objectively better, then it's not a "good" ending, it's just another bittersweet one so we go back to not having good endings.

You know that is an excellent point, it could because he needed therapy. Could be the last case really got to him or something.

Yup I totally agree. I think I said this in the video but it felt like they remembered they needed and/or forget to put a straight male romance option so they picked River as the romance option. I said straight male romance option as he is the only option. The only other male option is Kerry and he the gay option. I can't comment on that story since I haven't really done it.

@@Mundonnable I didn't even know Kerry was a romance option, great video by the way. You have a unique style 👍

Judy is great and I think her romance is amazing. XBDs are "extreme braindances" that involve extreme stuff like snuff and other stuff like that. If I said XBDs in the video I meant BD as those are just normal stuff people might want.

I couldn't have said it any better honestly. I did feel like Judy's was the best. The next best one was Panam's I think. But yeah that is what I thought as well, just bad writing. Could have been better if they let it slowly build a little bit longer (for River) instead of it just kinda showing up out of nowhere.

Honestly yea you can most likely just chalk it up to bad writing. I guess each one could be a little awkward I suppose this one stuck out the most cause it was it felt more spur of the moment. Actually that did get me thinking, realistically I don't want V to go out of their way to much. So from what I understand the only one that goes along with the main story for the most part would be Panam, right?

@este_marco you are 100% right I need to do this

I do! discord.com/invite/KNGskBN4eM

@Omnywrench unless they updated it here recently. I did it last night. I used assassin's gambit and unseen form. Crotched walk along the left side. I stopped along the rocks to about where I was in the short. I threw 1 rot hefty pot and 2 poison hefty pot. Get close but don't hit him, any damage will slept him edit: you can use rot pots, for me it took about 2 pots to proc rot and about 2 or 3 of procing rot to get him to transition

@Omnywrench you gotta get him to second phase first phase he will just stand there

@@Mundonnable I did get him to second phase; i was mimic veiled, he turned and walked away while fading in and out, then disappeared completely. I waited for like 15-20 minutes and nothing else happened. I eventually used the Pureblood Knight's Medal to teleport out of there, but when I went back and tried a second time the same thing happened.

@@Mundonnable There was an update today, i think it might have broken this cheese strategy.

@@Omnywrench Oh I just looked and yeah they did change some stuff with him. So I guess I sneaked it in right before the patch haha

Thats a good idea and yeah I would imagine you wouldn't with something like that.

Huh I never thought of it like that, how magma is just flame flavored poison. I always seen it as like an alternate form of fire.

@@Mundonnable well you can't really walk on lava and it will obviously burn the surrounding when dropped, cutting out a part of the zone possible to walk on. As for the poison, it obviously do tick damage each round if touched and, well it's fire so that hurts. You could even give it a cobweb effect since it is super dense.

I like the effect and it would make complete sense for it to have like a slow effect. You could easily accomplish that cobweb type effect by making it rough terrain. I am just concerned about making it to powerful to now have it outshine the other breath weapons dragonborn's can pick. I suppose you could easily make it a feat they can pick up though.

@@Mundonnable or you could make it cost hp in addition to the regular breath stuff since it's molten lava, which hurts even with a fire resist. Like, try to make it like a Damocles blade

@@Mundonnable make the damage like alchemist fire. If you do that in addition to a quickened spell metamagic with something that causes rough terrain, I believe it will achieve the effect you want.

Yeah, I thought of that, and if I would do anything I think it would be something like that. You know to make it unique from the default fire breath. I would even consider if they were like the way of the ascendant dragon monk to do something similar to that as well.

@@TriDFan18 could use alchemist fire effect

@sunderdance oh well I am glad that you liked it so much!

Thanks for the catch in errors! Yeah I tried to make them a little bit more powerful so they could still be viable later game as well. Figured it would be easier to make it a little bit more powerful than try and do a scaling thing. That was one of the things that was left over before (as this is a race that I had sitting around) I think I left it because I wasn't to sure. Ill just change it to the standard save formula. Well looking my best I tried not to crazy with. Since that effectively gives you another save it would be that then whatever ray does. I also think there might be a couple more rays like scorching ray and disintegrate but yeah you are right, there isn't many. With that being said that isn't a bad idea though. Being able to redirect it as an attack isn't a bad idea. I didn't even realize that I put reflex saving through, that is a habit that I just can't seem to break. Ill change to what it should be. To clarify if you don't know by chance (and sorry if you do) reflex is what is used in 3.5 and pathfinder 1e (not sure about 2e). It is a dex saving through effectively.

Great feedback! Yeah, I had in mind tha classes followed with you while you are in bug form. So yeah they would still be a paladin or wizard while in bug form. So technically you could still smite while in bug but all your physical stats are set to one (dex, strength, and con). Your HP is also set to 1 so it's not exactly recommended but you could still do it. That does actually raise a good point that you could still carry a good amount of things. As carrying capacity is still like 15 pounds or something so I might change it so you can't carry stuff while in bug form As for casting spells I did look around and from what I have seen. You couldn't cast most spells as you cannot speak, you only have telepathy. The spell requires the sound as verbal components say "The words themselves aren’t the source of the spell’s power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion." So unless you are like a sorcerer who can cast subtle spells or cast a spell that doesn't require verbal components I would rule that you can't. I was worried about the leech feature, yeah I did think about doing it when you attacked someone you gain health, much like the dhampir bite. But I wanted to do it like an actual leech so I gave them an attack plus that and try and make it more unique. I suppose it can be turned into like a touch attack or something. That would open it up to be used outside of grappling. For the HP thing, I did forget about the necromancy wizards when I made that. In my gut I wanna say the racial thing overrides that for balance? I honestly have no answer for that one. Also yeah it does seem weird but at the same time I find it weird that a little parasite might have almost 200hp. Plus the idea is that as a parasite you need to find a body and try and stay in one as much as you can. So I tried to make your base form really perilous to be in. Yeah I thought about trying to keep some of the racial features when I was first making this race. I was even gonna have them keep some of them, like tortle's shells or the wings from the Arakocra as they are just default and actually part of their body. I was a little worried about making the race to broken/op. I can however look into a nerfed attributes table cause that's not a bad idea, might have that as an option at the bottom or something for both subraces.

quick question, wild shape in bug form, would timer still apply? if ur afraid of the leech feature being too powerful if not in grapple, perhaps you could give them a grappling feature as part of the tentacle feature like you may grapple as a bonus action or instead of attacking. or you could limit it to a number of times per short or long rest. tbh I don't think it levels up well enough with it being still 1d4 at level 20. I see that worrying about the power of this race is a big concern for you, in my opinion make the race how you want and then if its too powerful nerf it later. its easy to scale down the damage dice or take away fly speed. also it'd be weird if you took over the body of an adult dragon and it just became a normal guy, which raises the question, what happens with creatures of larger size. I'd suggest giving the go-ahead but making things at disadvantage or something like exhaustion levels for each size larger.

ummm that is a good question. I suppose it wouldn't apply as you are transforming into something that can live without a host. I would say that the timer is simply just paused and resumes once it falls off. I thought about that and yeah you are right I don't think it does apply very well at later levels. So yeah maybe giving a grapple as a bonus action would work out. I might also add a scaling to it to help keep it valid. I tried to do that, I tried to make a race that I think would be fun to play. It's really only after it is done that I am more worried lol. But as of right now you can't take over creatures that are large size or bigger. I did that to prevent being to busted cause if things didn't really have a size limit. You could technically take over like an ancient red dragon or even the tarrasque. Granted I can see that happening in the story though if you had enough or something. I see it as them just being too big to control.

You bring up some good points for sure and something Ill have to totally try and work in. I was a little worried about mental leech, I was working on that ability and once I was done I thought "fuck this is pretty close to detect thoughts" I wasn't to sure how to balance it and make it different enough. I did notice I didn't put an action or anything on it so yeah I do need something for it take up, maybe action. Ill have to try and rethink it a little bit to make it different alittle different for sure. I will also need to apply an action to mental assault yeah. For Rogue Parasite's ability I did try and take inspiration from Dhampir's bite. Dhampir's bite does work kinda similiar as its "d4+str (or con) piercing on hit, plus gain damage as health or bonus to ability check" This I gave them the ability they can use while grappling that lets them do d4+str and gain half health. I mean I guess you can add the leech as part of just a base attack cause I did give them just a normal tentacle attack. I suppose I was trying to mimic what an actual leech does. For jumping into the same body I suppose I didn't think about saying the body becomes useless once it dies. I did say that it becomes withered and empty when you leave it which the DM could say that its useless. Something that could spark arguments and the classic "as written vs intended" debate, ill go ahead and add that just to be safe regardless. I also do like shortening the time frame, as its like 2 days now I believe.

@@Mundonnable That's okay, homebrew takes a lot of editorial oversight to get good so it's good that you're looking to get some eyes that can tell you how to make it better. Giving someone a non-damaging level 2 spell like Detect Thoughts as a 1/long rest ability isn't so terrible either: You could honestly just make it that if you grapple an enemy or touch a willing target, you can use Detect Thoughts on them as per the spell and while it's strong it isn't ridiculously OP or anything.

Huh yeah I suppose you could do a plains walker type of thing. Thinking about it, unless you wanted to copy the backrooms completely, that is most likely the most logical way to do it. I don't even think it would be that much of a stretch to have like doors or whatever in whatever area they are in that leads to another plain. Describe it as an "exit" or whatever.

Thats really neat and very fitting for a dwarf if you ask me haha!

that is how I think a lot of elves should be ran I think. Just kinda poor management skills or just not really in a hurry to do a lot of things. I think a common thing that should be shown is elves reaction to the like human society. I would figure with how much they do and how skilled they can be at things. You would think humans compared to elves, are like busy bees almost on the move all the time.

Yup I think so as well!

I can kinda get what you mean and you do make valid points! 1) I don't think it would be to much of a problem really, It kinda helps sorcerers in not dying as much cause they would stack con first. I do think it would make certain multiclasses work a bit differently. Like the sorlock would still work but with sorcerer spells using con they would have to focus on both cha and con. 2) That is true if you look at it way, cause you are using your force of will or personality. Cause the stronger your will the more you can force or weave your spells together. But the points you brought up is kinda why I think Con can also work well for it as well. Like you said sorcerers ARE magic. The magic comes from themselves unlike wizards where they pull magic from the weave. So sorcerers being more hardy or have more stamina they can put more effort into the spells. I think I said this in the video but if you look at pathfinder kineticist make a good example of what I mean. Kineticists draw power from the area around them and from their own body, the healthier (more con ) they are force they can put into their abilities. You can see it that since the magic comes from them not much commanding has to happen since its their own magic. also from what I been told I think warlocks were almost int but was changed last minute or something. but yes Cha sorcerers work just fine and makes total sense! I also don't think it would break that many things either but you can easily go back and forth. I would almost say that you could give them a choice which is their main stat.

@@Mundonnable oh yeah, when you make your own homebrew campaign, all those fun choices that would make for fun narratives are on the table! If i recall, ther eused to be a couple Sorcerer UA subclasses that prominently used Constitution, one was Stone sorcery (related to runes too) and another was Giant sorcery, which was really dependant on physical size. I havent fully seen the kineticist but there was a narrative I saw one of someone commanding the elements, but more as in "the planet is a part of their body", it was very earth/earthquake/plants themed but it made a lot of sense and it didnt stop being spiritual. I think what Im actually trying to say is that something like Con-casting should be based on a fun character narrative rather than just because it would be mechanically optimal to cast with the same stat that gives you HP and concentration

Hmmm you might have a point about the way of the open hand. It is something that they might have made with that sort of thing in mind. To me it seems like its not quite what I had in mind/wanted when I think of pressure points. However I suppose you could argue that its hard to make that into an archetype or a complete one, I am not sure.

@@Mundonnable perhaps a more fun way of doing it would be a sort of "target points abilitites" that inflict debuffs on the target, lowering speed when targetting legs or halving damage they deal when targetting arms

Yup and I think it could be an archetype more about control and less about damage. I think it could be fun!

@@Mundonnable absolutely :D even though the Monk has some powerfull attacks, i feel that it comes "online" really late, so, at least having some crowdcontrolling skills/attacks/abilities would be both useful and fun :D

yeah I do believe that monks come online late in the game. Plus I am of the belief that you don't need to do a bunch of damage to really pull your weight. Like I believe (like I even seen it happen)someone could do 0 damage but single handily win the fight by stunning people and just controlling the area.

Depending on how detailed and horrific you want to get. You can even have people hanging or covered in brambles. The dark side of nature!

Heckin right!? Its such a fun idea and you have it be real spooky and everything! The players would have to fight actual forces of nature!

I actually had to look up who that is but from what I seen basically yeah. lol.

Yeah I thought it was a bit of a waste and honestly I thought it wouldn't be that hard to do either. Yeah you could take the fighting initiate feat which is most likely your best bet if you wanted to do an unarmed barbarian. I haven't played much of pathfinder 2e but what I did I actually did do a feral/unarmed fighting style and it was fun. So yeah that is an option!

The key weakness to this idea is that your unarmed strikes aren't magical, so at higher level you will suffer against resistances/immunities. There is an item that makes your unarmed strikes magical, the Insignia Of Claws. While it is from a specific module, I'm of the belief that standard DnD will let you have a magic item of that power level by Level 7, and certainly Level 10, if your DM isn't a hardass and you explain that that is the build you want.

I should also mention that your allies can cast Enlarge/Reduce to make you Large, allowing you to grapple Huge creatures. Or they can cast Silence, so that when you grapple an enemy spellcaster in there, they can't use verbal components (and afaik all teleport spells require verbal components). This is coming from someone who DMs, but in the DMG there are additional combat options that one might use/allow players to use. One is to Climb Onto a Larger Creature, which applies when they're too big to grapple - it grants advantage to all of your attacks and you stay with them if they try to get out of range. Another option is to Disarm, using a weapon attack to force the enemy to make an athletics/acrobatics check or else lose their weapon/spellcasting focus. Again I err on the side of common sense as a DM, so I believe that if a player character grapples an enemy and shoves them prone, you can swap the rolls around (ie the grappler makes an athletics check and the enemy makes a weapon attack roll). If they don't allow that, then you can simply use a weapon attack roll (you have advantage since they're prone). You then drag them away from their weapon/spellcasting focus so that they can't pick it back up.

Imma break things down for clarity and I hope I don't sound rude Game balance: When I mentioned this in the video I meant that if they let elves be higher levels at the start of the campaign to reflect the amount of time they had to learn and study. It wouldn't be balanced and would throw things off basically make elves the best race and no reason to be another race really. 40 year old human can also be level 1: Yeah you are right and in earlier editions they had a random starting age. for wizards they did start out older because they had to spend years of training to learn how to do magic. Literally go to wizard collage for it my point in the video for bringing up human age compared to elf age is that. A human can spend x amount of years learning or training while an elf has to spend double, triple or quadruple the amount of time to get to the same level. I felt the classic argument of "time is different for them so they don't try as hard" is a poor one. Most people are level zero: You are right but we aren't talking about most people in verse or at least I wasn't. The only time the age-to-level disparity in that situation is still kinda an issue just in a different way.

@@Mundonnable Used to be humans learned faster. Like, they're racial trait was literally "only people who can duel-class".

That is true, humans were shown to be more naturally skilled. However, you can almost compare any race to elves and say almost the same thing. I mean take dwarves for example they are adults later than humans and live longer. You can have a PC elf be like 200 and still be considered a young adult. While a dwarf of the same age would be old. My point is that the fact that elves are almost twice the age at the minimum of being adulthood than the other races but are at the same level as them. This means they are a REALLY lazy race that don't do jack for a lot of it or just are really slow learners, I think.

@@Mundonnable You're thinking of them as humans+ when you should be thinking of them like dragons; an entirely different species that physically, magically, and mentally mature on a different scale.

Thanks! That means a lot!

You do have a very valid point that its not something people and animals just know when they are born. Some sort of training is involved for them to learn. But I guess my point is that barbarians would have learned it/had the path kinda set for them pretty early on. For example if you make a dwarf barbarian that was raised by wolves. It would kinda make more sense for them to go totem warrior or beast barbarian more then lets say a battlerager (the archetype that specializes in wearing big bulky spiked armor, their words not mine). I know you can flavor the battlerager so it can work for a more feral/animalistic type character. I was more looking at short description that they gave for example. Since it says they are followers of a god of war and wear big bulky spiked armor

@@Mundonnable Battlerager does not fulfill that role very well, anyways (besides being categorically mechanically inferior to other subclasses, when casters are superior to non-casters to begin with). Divorcing fluff as inherent to certain mechanics is extremely valuable in many regards. Earlier editions of D&D had lots of instances-specific rules and character options that 5e was partially a reaction to; 3.5, for example, had several _hundred_ base classes and prestige classes each and _far_ more feats. It got to be too expensive for the playerbase, too difficult to balance around so many non-core books, and too difficult for DMs to keep track of so many specific rules and options. 5e was partially designed as a more streamlined, generalized response. It is ultimately a problem inherently to class-based game design; it inclines towards playing the class and the corresponding roles of the class over making the system support the player's character fantasy unless said fantasy _happens_ to line up well with existing class options. While D&D is not particularly well-designed for that purpose, either, that is a different matter. It sucks when the system does not support a character concept that conceptually works within the setting and game's fiction, yes. That is a problem endemic to 5e at a much more fundamental level than subclasses coming online at level 3, though, and is more an inevitable consequence of the fundamentals of the entire system.

I mean you are right but I guess I should have clarified. I meant a missed opportunity on Wizards of the coasts part thus far.

That didn't really come to mind but yeah that would be a lot less work. But yeah it still feels like a missed opportunity.

the lvl 10 and 14 features don't really fit the thematic of a pugilist. There's an argument to be made for them being high level features so you're not likely to get to them so it doesn't really matter, but I've never really liked that argument.

Yeah you are right and I don't like that arguement either, its the same reason why I don't like some super late game abilities. But really I think its the closest you are going to get as far as none homebrew archetypes you are going to get.

That is a lovely idea, love the idea of mixing liches with druids!